This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IMi.2ACEB/429.439.440.441.445.446.2 Message Board Post: GOING BACK TO PETER THE FIRST BORN DEC 15 1719 AND LIVING TO 1802...PETER THE SECOND BORN IN 1743..JAMES THE FIRST BORN 1790....MY STORY WITH THE HELTON IN MO WHEN PETER 2 AND JAMES 1 AGE 10 WERE IN MO OSAGE CO(GASCONADE) IN 1801 AND 1802. HAVING RUN OUT OF SALT THEY WERE ON THERE WAY BACK TO TENN WHEN THEY MET CAMPBELL CRISMON(CHRISTMAN)...LATER JAMES HELTON MARRIED MARGARET(PEGGY) CRISMOND....JAMES' FIRST WIFE MARGARET'S PARENTS WERE WILLIAM CRISMON AND "WANNAH" A FULL BLOODED CHEROKEE..I AM NOT NOW READING FROM MY RESEARCH NOTES BUT I HAVE SOME WHERE THE INDIAN NAMES OR BELIEVED INDIAN NAMES OF HER PARENTS....AT THIS TIME PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT LISTED IN THE CHEROKEE NATION ARE NOT INCLUDED ON ANY OF THE ROLLS....IF YOU LIVED IN THE INDIAN NATION THAT MEANT WHITE MEN WOULD BE TAKING CARE OF YOUR MONEY AND THIS DID NOT SET WELL WITH MANY INDIANS FOR THEY WERE NOT STUPID AND KNEW WHEN THEY WERE BEING CHEATED.....THE FACT THAT WE CAN NOT FIND OUR ANCESTORS ON THE VARIOUS ROLLS ! DOES NOT MEAN WE HAVE NO INDIAN BLOOD....I WEAR MY HERITAGE PROUDLY....WHY AFTER ALL THE YEARS WOULD WE HAVE PASSED THIS LORE DOWN IF WE DIDN'T BELIEVE IT? MY GREATGRANDMOTHER RACHEL HELTON DAUGHTER OF ISAAC SR...CLAIMED CHEROKEE BLOOD ON BOTH HER FATHER AND MOTHER'S SIDE....YOU DO MAKE A GOOD ARGUMENT FOR THE SCOTCH-IRISH CONNECTION AND I HAD ALWAYS ASSUMED THAT TO BE TRUE BECAUSE OF THE MUSIC AND DANCES THAT I WITNESSED AS A CHILD...I WAS FASCINATED WITH THEIR ABILITY TO MAKE MUSIC OUT OF THE MOST BASIC EVERYDAY THINGS..SUCH AS A WASHBOARD..SAW...AND COWBELLS......BUT SOMETHING NEW HAS BROUGHT MY ATTENTION TO A DIFFERENT FOCUS...SOME ARE CONTENDING THAT THE HELTONS WERE FROM GERMANY AND MEMBERS OF THE REFORMED CHURCH IN ORANGE CO N C...I DO HAVE THE NAME OF THE CEMETERY WHERE MANY ARE BURIED....WHATEVER OUR BLOOD LINES WE ARE GOD'S CHILDREN AND PART OF THE HUMAN FAMILY...BUT IN STRUGGLING FOR TRUTH AND ACCURACY WE FALL SHORT...WE FIND ORAL TRADITION CAN BE FAULTY,BUT WE A! LSO FIND IT CAN BE VERY ACCURATE....AND AT THE END OF THE DAY WE MUST ADMIT THAT WE TAKE OTHER RESEARCHER'S WORK AND WE ARE LEFT NEVER KNOWING FOR SURE IF WE MISSED THE MARK...I AM TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST GUESSES OFTEN TIMES BUT STILL THEY ARE CONCLUSIONS THAT MAY FALL SHORT OF THE TRUTH...SO INTEND TO KEEP SEARCHING...BEST OF LUCK IN YOUR HUNT..JIM IN SAN ANTONIO