If you are talking about VA, the pre-1790 "census" was compiled from tax records and listed tithables (those folks required to pay taxes). These records should be available through LDS Family History Centers on microfilm. I've seen published records for Monongalia and Harrison Counties for the year 1787. Jim

I've seen that Ancestry.com has available a CD of census before the 1790 Federal census. Does anyone know if this information is available non-commercially? Pam Foster Raley -----Original Message----- From: PAM BARRICKLOW [mailto:locustcreek@msn.com] Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 11:41 AM To: HCGS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HCGS] Census before West Virginia split from Virginia Before 1860 what counties of VA would be the current WV? ----- Original Message ----- From: JSample763@aol.com Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:41 AM To: HCGS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HCGS] Census before West Virginia split from Virginia Census record information for WV and VA can be somewhat confusing. For 1860 and earlier, VA census records include what are now WV counties that were in existence at the time. Beginning in 1870, WV has it's own census records and WV counties are omitted from the VA census records. After WV become a state in 1863, published books of census data and indexes, including CDs of these, are most likely parochial. That is books and CDs of census indexes and data will contain only the counties for their respective state. Say you want to see the census records for Harrison County, WV for the census year 1860 and earlier, then you would look in the VA census records. For published indexes and books, look under WV. Jim ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Our Harrison County Genealogical Society's webpage has been down for awhile but Sue has it back up and running once again. http://dttwv01.org/hcgs/index.htm Thanks Sue. Ruby Casto Membership Chairman for HCGS

Hey, this is neat, thanks a lot. Peggy Rifleman -----Original Message----- From: JSample763@aol.com [mailto:JSample763@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 3:46 PM To: HCGS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HCGS] Census before West Virginia split from Virginia The following link gives histories of each WV county. The histories state when the county was formed. Probably most were formed before 1860. <A HREF="http://www.polsci.wvu.edu/wv/">County Commissioners' Association of West Virginia</A> Jim ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

The following link gives histories of each WV county. The histories state when the county was formed. Probably most were formed before 1860. <A HREF="http://www.polsci.wvu.edu/wv/">County Commissioners' Association of West Virginia</A> Jim

All present WV counties. For example, if you're searching for Harrison Co WV in 1860, it would be listed as Harrison Co VA. Patti

Before 1860 what counties of VA would be the current WV? ----- Original Message ----- From: JSample763@aol.com Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:41 AM To: HCGS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HCGS] Census before West Virginia split from Virginia Census record information for WV and VA can be somewhat confusing. For 1860 and earlier, VA census records include what are now WV counties that were in existence at the time. Beginning in 1870, WV has it's own census records and WV counties are omitted from the VA census records. After WV become a state in 1863, published books of census data and indexes, including CDs of these, are most likely parochial. That is books and CDs of census indexes and data will contain only the counties for their respective state. Say you want to see the census records for Harrison County, WV for the census year 1860 and earlier, then you would look in the VA census records. For published indexes and books, look under WV. Jim

Y:ou came in well thanks Louise Louise Righman wrote: > something is wrong I can not read your messages . sorry Louise righman > > RECasto wrote: > > > We want to welcome the newest member to the Harrison County Genealogical > > Society's members only list. > > > > Billie Jo Runyon > > Grapevine, TX > > > > billiejo@gte.net > > > > SURNAMES: > > Haymond, Heater, Hefner, Crickard, Channell, Wilson, Grogg, Nicholson and > > Ruddell. > > > > Welcome Billie Jo. > > > > Ruby Casto > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

something is wrong I can not read your messages . sorry Louise righman RECasto wrote: > We want to welcome the newest member to the Harrison County Genealogical > Society's members only list. > > Billie Jo Runyon > Grapevine, TX > > billiejo@gte.net > > SURNAMES: > Haymond, Heater, Hefner, Crickard, Channell, Wilson, Grogg, Nicholson and > Ruddell. > > Welcome Billie Jo. > > Ruby Casto > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Ruby, Sorry we didn't make the meeting again! Arden is having some health problems and it limits his "goings on". Here is the site for Randolph County, WV Enjoy. http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvrandol/ RECasto wrote: > > Folks, > After going to the Randolph County Genealogical Society's webpage that I > gave you in the meeting news it is for Illinois and not WV. > > Still you might find something on it that you can use. > > Also if you want to read the back e-mails for HCGS you can go to > http://archiver.rootsweb.com and type in hcgs or if you are looking for a > surname list just type in the surname. > > Ruby Casto > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

We want to welcome the newest member to the Harrison County Genealogical Society's members only list. Billie Jo Runyon Grapevine, TX billiejo@gte.net SURNAMES: Haymond, Heater, Hefner, Crickard, Channell, Wilson, Grogg, Nicholson and Ruddell. Welcome Billie Jo. Ruby Casto

Folks, After going to the Randolph County Genealogical Society's webpage that I gave you in the meeting news it is for Illinois and not WV. Still you might find something on it that you can use. Also if you want to read the back e-mails for HCGS you can go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com and type in hcgs or if you are looking for a surname list just type in the surname. Ruby Casto

The Harrison County Genealogical Society held their regular monthly meeting this morning at the Waldomore, Clarksburg, WV. There were only 12 in attendance and that was good for as hot as it was. It was good to have our good friend Betty Williams from Lakeland, FL with us today and she will still be here for the September meeting. Darrell gave a report on the new micro film reader which has been ordered and was to have been shipped the 29th of July and we should have it in a week to ten days. Diane Dieterle the lady writing the Duvall book refunded our $90.00 which we had sent her for the two volumes of her new book. She has so much material that it now will have to be in three volumes. We voted to buy all three volumes of the Duvall book. Diana Johnson noted that we are missing on volume of the Braxton County, WV obits and we will be ordering it. It is for the years 1911-1920. Diana also made mention that the Nutter reunion will be held at the City Park (Norwood Park) Nutter Fort on the 17th of August. Tim Eastom has two more volumes of the Nutter book in addition to the one he has already published. Jerry Hawkinberry gave us the webpage for Randolph County, WV which is www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs THE ANNUAL PICNIC WILL BE AUGUST 13TH at 5:00 P.M. at Lake Floyd, Rt 50 West of Clarksburg, WV. If you plan to attend please bring a covered dish. Hot dogs and hamburgers will be furnished by the Society. The German Festival at Sistersville in October was discussed and we had thought there would be someone going to set up a table with our publications but no one volunteered. Patricia Dennison wanted us to name a planning committee for the workshop which we are planning in May, 2003. We need a lot of input and if you would be willing to help please be at the Waldomore, Clarksburg, WV on Saturday the 28th of September at 10:00 A.M. for a meeting so a report can be made at the October meeting. Diana Johnson, Elaine Post and Jerry Hawkinberry will be at the meeting. We need more volunteers and ideas so please try to give Patricia your support in making this a great workshop. We also had a discussion on the Annual Christmas Dinner. Several places were named and of course we left it up to Darrell to see what he can do.. It was suggested we rent someplace and have it catered. Any ideas where you would like to go for the Christmas Dinner please let us know. The next meeting will be September 6, 2003. On my way home I have to pass the City Park (Norwood Park) to a lot of the older ones from this area , and it was jumping with activity at 11:30 A.M. August 1, 2 & 3 is the Annual Blackberry Festival and it is becoming quite an event. Jim Reid's always has a booth and do they ever make good blackberry pie and cobbler. That's all folks. Ruby Casto Membership Chairman for HCGS

Reminder: The regular meeting of the Harrison County Genealogical Society will be tomorrow, Friday, August 2nd at the Waldomore, W. Pike St., Clarksburg, WV, at 10:00 A.M. I know it is hot but would like to see another good turnout for the meeting. Ruby Casto Membership Chairman for HCGS

Sherry, I'm getting your messages just fine and everyone elses, really don't know why they are continuing to bounce back to you. Up until last Wednesday the 24th I was having problems but from then on things have been working just fine. Thanks for your concern. Ruby

Please excuse me for using this address but I wanted to let you know that I receive yours but the ones I send you are bouncing back to me. Sherry

Thanks Charlotte, I'm sure those church records will be helpful. Irene Dunlevy

----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Haefling" <chaeflin@ix.netcom.com> To: "Monk White" <monk@monkwhite.com> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:45 PM Subject: Fw: A RUN IN THE RAIN > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Etrum50@aol.com> > To: <PresquilePoint@aol.com>; <Dpaul602@aol.com>; <Mav738@aol.com>; > <Nannyscampin@aol.com>; <chaeflin@ix.netcom.com>; <JBacksto@aol.com>; > <JoJimG@aol.com>; <chiarel7@aol.com>; <MARH45@aol.com>; <Mtdekj@aol.com>; > <desert54@msn.com> > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 12:36 PM > Subject: A RUN IN THE RAIN > > > > > > > > A RUN IN THE RAIN > > > > She had been shopping with her Mom in > > Wal-Mart. She must have been 6 years old, this > > beautiful red haired, freckle faced image of > > innocence. > > It was pouring outside. The kind of rain that > > gushes over the top of rain gutters, so much in a > > hurry to hit the earth it has no time to flow down the > > spout. > > > > We all stood there under the awning and just > > inside the door of the Wal-Mart. > > We waited, some patiently, others irritated because > > nature messed up their hurried day. I am always > > mesmerized by rainfall. I got lost in the sound and > > sight of the heavens washing away the dirt and dust of the world. > > > > Memories of running, splashing so carefree as a > > child come pouring in as a welcome reprieve from the worries of my day. > > > > Her voice was so sweet as it broke the hypnotic > > trance we were all caught in. > > "Mom, let's run through the rain," she said. > > > > "What?" Mom asked. > > > > "Let's run through the rain!" She repeated. > > > > "No, honey. We'll wait until it slows down a bit," > > Mom replied. > > > > This young child waited about another minute > > and repeated: > > "Mom, let's run through the rain." > > > > "We'll get soaked if we do," Mom said. > > > > "No, we won't, Mom. That's not what you said > > this morning," the young girl said as she tugged at > > her Mom's arm. > > > > "This morning? When did I say we could run through > > the rain and not get wet?" > > > > "Don't you remember? When you were talking to Daddy about his cancer, you > > said, 'If God can get us through this, he can get us through anything!" > > > > The entire crowd stopped dead silent. I swear you > > couldn't hear anything but the rain. We all stood > > silently. No one came or left in the next few > > minutes. > > > > Mom paused and thought for a moment about what she would say. > > Now some would laugh it off and scold her for being > > silly. Some might even ignore what was said. But this > > was a moment of affirmation in a young child's life. A > > time when innocent trust can be nurtured so that it > > will bloom into faith. > > > > "Honey, you are absolutely right. Let's run > > through the rain. If GOD let's us get wet, well maybe > > we just needed washing," Mom said. Then off they ran. > > We all stood watching, smiling and laughing as they > > darted past the cars and yes, through the puddles. > > They held their shopping bags over their heads just in > > case. They got soaked. But they were followed by a few who screamed and > > laughed like children all the way to their cars. > > > > And yes, I did. I ran. I got wet. I needed > > washing. > > > > Circumstances or people can take away your material possessions, they can > > take away your money, and they can take away your health. But no one can > ever > > take away your precious memories...So, don't forget to make time and take > the > > opportunities to make memories everyday. > > > > To everything there is a season, and a time to > > every purpose under heaven. > > > > A friend sent this to me to remind me of life. > > Hope you enjoy it. > > > > I HOPE YOU STILL TAKE THE TIME TO RUN THROUGH THE RAIN > > > > * Keep in touch with your friends; you never > > know when you'll need each other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Census record information for WV and VA can be somewhat confusing. For 1860 and earlier, VA census records include what are now WV counties that were in existence at the time. Beginning in 1870, WV has it's own census records and WV counties are omitted from the VA census records. After WV become a state in 1863, published books of census data and indexes, including CDs of these, are most likely parochial. That is books and CDs of census indexes and data will contain only the counties for their respective state. Say you want to see the census records for Harrison County, WV for the census year 1860 and earlier, then you would look in the VA census records. For published indexes and books, look under WV. Jim