You can go online and find a lot of information about WVU and it's libraries. Just google WVU and libraries and it's easy to get to. I just love going there. Everyone is really helpful and it's a great collection. Beverly Railey Walter

Yes I can tell you that this WVA Lib is right a cross from the parking lot and the WVU Library that is seven floors and I have not the phone number at this time but the WVU students will help I am sorry I dont have the addess but some one else may so I have added this bit . They have help me a lot. Louise Righman IDunlevy wrote: > Someone out there offered to send me Charles McIntire's service record from the Revolution. If you read this will you please write me? > > I understand there is a place in Morgantown called Coleson[sp.]Hall. Does anyone know where it is and if it has any connection to the University? I understand they have a lot of info for the genealogist. > > Thanks, > Irene Dunlevy idunlevy@eohio.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Someone out there offered to send me Charles McIntire's service record from the Revolution. If you read this will you please write me? I understand there is a place in Morgantown called Coleson[sp.]Hall. Does anyone know where it is and if it has any connection to the University? I understand they have a lot of info for the genealogist. Thanks, Irene Dunlevy idunlevy@eohio.net

Dear Ruby, We are going to be in Clarksburg next week; Could you give me the address of the Genealogy library that we should go to do our research? I am looking forward to being in your area, Thanks so much, Peggy Rifleman

Our Harrison County Genealogical Society's annual picnic was held yesterday evening at Lake Floyd, Rt. 50 West of Clarksburg, WV. and may thanks to Jerry & Bill Hawkinberry for getting the facility for us. Thanks to Jerry for all she does to make this picnic a success. She just goes ahead with everything. There were only 16 of us but we had a lot of good food and fun. Diana Johnson was on her way and had car troubles so she did not make it. She sent the bingo game and prizes she had gotten and we played several games of bingo and others talked. David Houchin, the librarian, for HCGS stopped and we could hear him telling some of the ones that were not playing bingo, information that they were needing. Now I guess it is start time to plan our Annual Christmas Dinner. Ruby Casto Membership Chairman for HCGS

Ethel Swiger I love this beatitudes of a family Genealogisht Louise Righman Ethel Swiger wrote: > Received this from another list. Enjoy....... > > Beatitudes of a Family Genealogist > > Blessed are the great-grandmothers > who hoarded newspapers clippings and old letters... > For they tell the story of their time. > > Blessed are all grandfathers > who filed every legal document > For this provides proof. > > Blessed are grandmothers who > preserve family Bibles and diaries. > For this is our heritage. > > Blessed are fathers > who elect officials that answer letters of inquiry. > For some, they are the only link to the past! > > Blessed are mothers > who relate family traditions and legends to the > family. > For one of her children will surely remember. > > Blessed are the relatives > who fill in family sheets with extra data. > For them we owe the family history. > > Blessed is any family > whose members strive for the preservation of records. > For theirs is a labor of love. > > Blessed are the children > who will never say... > "Grandma, you have told that story twice today." > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Reunion: There is an all class picnic on Sunday, Aug. 18th from 10 to 5 at VA Park (next to Veteran's Hospital, Clarksburg), Fireplace Shelter, $15/person. Sam Annie is putting it together 304/ 623-1100 Sharon Sprouse Bramhall VHS Class of 1960

In a message dated 8/12/02 7:10:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, recasto@iolinc.net writes: > Just a reminder that the HCGS annual picnic will be held tomorrow, > August 13th at 5:00 P.M. at Lake Floyd, Rt 50 West of Clarksburg I won't be able to make it this year. I'm working 9-5 today and then have to take my daughter to Bible School. I've enjoyed the picnics that I've attended and will miss the fun (and great food!) Patricia Dennison

Just a reminder that the HCGS annual picnic will be held tomorrow, August 13th at 5:00 P.M. at Lake Floyd, Rt 50 West of Clarksburg. The Society will furnish hot dogs and hamburgers so bring a covered dish, dessert, salad or such and come join us. Our good friend Betty Williams is here from Florida and looking forward to the picnic. Ruby Casto Membership Chairman for HCGS

Beverly, Was this what you were looking for? Ethel "CLEANING MOTHER'S HOUSE" by Michael John Neill =============================================================== It has been nearly a year since fictional genealogist Barbara passed away. Her daughter, Charlene reflects upon that year in a letter to her friend Karen. Charlene truly has been busy. Barbara is probably rolling over in her grave. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Karen, As usual, my cards are late. It has been a busy year. We spent much of the year settling up Mother's estate. The house sold well, but cleaning it took longer than we expected. You are probably the only person who did not know Mother was a genealogy buff. She told practically every human she encountered. I'm convinced that genealogy 'nut' was the most accurate phrase. The stuff was all over the house. The inheritance would have been enough to pay for my new Mercedes had she not insisted on spending money on that blasted hobby. I don't know why she couldn't be more like Tom's mother, Nadine spends her day doing needlepoint and watching reruns of 50s television shows. Tom just does not realize how lucky he is, but men never do. My mother had to run off to cemeteries and courthouses! She even went to a conference in Davenport, Iowa, last year! Can you imagine? Davenport, Iowa! After she got back, she was so excited about all that she had learned and all the fun she had. She was planning on going to another one in California this year. Well, the grim reaper took care of that. Because of my promotion to head of knick-knack sales at Garbageforless.com, I had not been home for several years. I was appalled to learn that Mother had converted my old bedroom into her family history 'headquarters." My shelves of Teen Beat and other magazines documenting my adolescence had been replaced with old family photographs, copies of old documents, and something called family group sheets. She even got rid of the pants I wore to my first junior high dance. I cried at the thought. I could not bear to go in the room and be reminded that my childhood had been stripped from me and replaced with an obsession with the past. I told the children that if they would clean the room and prepare the items for the garage (should I say 'garbage"?) sale they could have the proceeds. I learned what true entrepreneurs they are. Kenny stripped Mother's hard drive in under ten minutes. I kept hearing him say "GedCom is GedGone....GedCom is GedGone...." I have no idea what it meant, but the computer fetched a good price. Before he unplugged the computer, he erased all Mom's floppy disks and downloaded public domain games. He sold these at a nominal price. Susan took the old photographs to a flea market and was able to sell many of them. Some special labels had to be taken off and we had to take them out of protective envelopes. Mother had written the names on the back of many of them. At least none of those pictures of depressing old dead people had our last name written on them. I don't want to be associated with such sour people. Mother had some type of old plat book -- whatever that is. Kenny tore out the pages individually and sold them separately on eBay. It was so clever. His dad said he got much more than if he had left the book in one piece. Susan didn't tear the bibles apart though. I thought that showed a tremendously good sense. She's learning that not everything can be marketed in the same way. The 1790 bible brought her a good penny, but she couldn't get the one from 1900 to bring more than fifty cents. She donated it to a local church, and here is where I am so proud of her. We can write it off as a charitable deduction. Someone had written what they had paid for the bible on the back cover. Susan converted that to 2001 dollars and will use that for our tax deduction amount. I've already enrolled Susan in tax lawyer summer camp this coming August. There was some old large certificate written on heavy paper. The silly thing wasn't even in English, so why would Mother keep it? Kenny used the other side to keep track of the things he had sold. Waste not, want not. When we were finished we put the paper in the recycling bin. The kids put an old wedding dress from the 1870s in the washer to get the stains out. It was terribly filthy. The worthless thing didn't even survive the extra long cycle and the half-gallon of bleach. It's doubtful we can even use it for cleaning rags. The dress was in some kind of old trunk. I'm not certain what it was for, but it had a name stenciled on the front in huge letters along with the name of a town. Susan give it a good coating of red paint and sold it as a toy box. The filing cabinets were emptied of their contents, as were the three shelves of binders. Kenny got the bright idea to shred the paper and sell it in bags as New Year's confetti. The file folders were too heavy to shred. The baby did not react well to any of this. She cried and fussed almost the entire time. Kenny thought she wanted tea, which made no sense to me at all. As she cried, it sounded like she was saying "family tee." She can't even talk yet and I think Kenny was hearing things. The baby does not look exactly like my mother though, it's the oddest thing. The fussing didn't stop until she spit up an entire bottle of strained prunes on my Junior high jeans, which we did find in the basement. They were ruined --- it was the one real loss. Now my past has really been taken from me --- magazines and all. Charlene * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Whether you have a child like Charlene or not, have you thought about what might happen to your genealogy collection upon your demis? Bez4@aol.com wrote: > >Does anyone have the poignant story told by a young descendant > who is seeking her history and her relatives have thrown everything away > along the years? > Beverly Railey Walter > >

Thank you so much. It has been a while. I think that might be it, but for sure it communicates a good message! Best wishes Beverly

That was nice. Does anyone have the poignant story told by a young descendant who is seeking her history and her relatives have thrown everything away along the years? I remember reading it a few years ago and being touched by it. I would like to have a copy. Beverly Railey Walter Kemper, Hudkins, Hitt, Bailey

Received this from another list. Enjoy....... Beatitudes of a Family Genealogist Blessed are the great-grandmothers who hoarded newspapers clippings and old letters... For they tell the story of their time. Blessed are all grandfathers who filed every legal document For this provides proof. Blessed are grandmothers who preserve family Bibles and diaries. For this is our heritage. Blessed are fathers who elect officials that answer letters of inquiry. For some, they are the only link to the past! Blessed are mothers who relate family traditions and legends to the family. For one of her children will surely remember. Blessed are the relatives who fill in family sheets with extra data. For them we owe the family history. Blessed is any family whose members strive for the preservation of records. For theirs is a labor of love. Blessed are the children who will never say... "Grandma, you have told that story twice today."

I sent a message what is the Twelve commandments for names that sounds like it should have been posted years ago. It would help me lots thanks Louise Righman Ethel Swiger wrote: > THE TWELVE COMMANDMENTS FOR NAMES: > > 1). Thou shalt name your male children: > James, John, Joseph, Josiah, Abel, Richard, Thomas, William > > (2) Thou shalt name your female children: > Elizabeth, Mary, Martha, Maria, Sarah, Ida, Virginia, May > > (3) Thou shalt leave NO trace of your female children. > > (4) Thou shalt, after naming your children from the above lists,call > them > by strange nicknames such as: Ike, Eli, Polly, Dolly,Sukey.---making > them > difficult to trace. > > (5) Thou shalt NOT use any middle names on any legal documents or census > reports, and only where necessary, you may use only initials on legal > documents. > > (6) Thou shalt learn to sign all documents illegibly so that your > surname > can be spelled, or misspelled, in various ways: Hicks, Hicks, Hix, > Hixe, > Hucks, Kicks or Robinson, Robertson, Robison, Roberson, Robuson, Robson, > Dobson > > (7) Thou shalt, after no more then 3 generations, make sure that all > family > records are lost, misplaced, burned in a court house fire, or buried so > that NO future trace of them can be found. > > (8) Thou shalt propagate misleading legends, rumors, & vague innuendo > regarding your place origination > > (A) you may have come from : England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales....or > Iran. > (B) you may have American Indian ancestry of > the______tribe...... > (C) You may have descended from one of three brothers that came over > from______ > > (9) Thou shalt leave NO cemetery records, or headstones with legible > names. > > (10) Thou shalt leave NO family Bible with records of birth, marriages, > or > deaths. > > (11) Thou shalt ALWAYS flip thy name around. If born James Albert, thou > must make all the rest of thy records in the names of Albert, AJ, JA, > AL, > Bert, Bart, or Alfred. > > (12) Thou must also flip thy parent's names when making reference to > them, > although "Unknown" or a blank line is an acceptable alternative. > > Thou shalt name at least 5 generations of males, and dozens of their > cousins with identical names in order to totally confuse researchers. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

May I ask what is the twelve commandments for names Please Louise Righman lrighman@westvirginia.net Sherraygen@aol.com wrote: > Love it. You must be researching my families. > > Sherry Ray > Kent, WA > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Love it. You must be researching my families. Sherry Ray Kent, WA

THE TWELVE COMMANDMENTS FOR NAMES: 1). Thou shalt name your male children: James, John, Joseph, Josiah, Abel, Richard, Thomas, William (2) Thou shalt name your female children: Elizabeth, Mary, Martha, Maria, Sarah, Ida, Virginia, May (3) Thou shalt leave NO trace of your female children. (4) Thou shalt, after naming your children from the above lists,call them by strange nicknames such as: Ike, Eli, Polly, Dolly,Sukey.---making them difficult to trace. (5) Thou shalt NOT use any middle names on any legal documents or census reports, and only where necessary, you may use only initials on legal documents. (6) Thou shalt learn to sign all documents illegibly so that your surname can be spelled, or misspelled, in various ways: Hicks, Hicks, Hix, Hixe, Hucks, Kicks or Robinson, Robertson, Robison, Roberson, Robuson, Robson, Dobson (7) Thou shalt, after no more then 3 generations, make sure that all family records are lost, misplaced, burned in a court house fire, or buried so that NO future trace of them can be found. (8) Thou shalt propagate misleading legends, rumors, & vague innuendo regarding your place origination (A) you may have come from : England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales....or Iran. (B) you may have American Indian ancestry of the______tribe...... (C) You may have descended from one of three brothers that came over from______ (9) Thou shalt leave NO cemetery records, or headstones with legible names. (10) Thou shalt leave NO family Bible with records of birth, marriages, or deaths. (11) Thou shalt ALWAYS flip thy name around. If born James Albert, thou must make all the rest of thy records in the names of Albert, AJ, JA, AL, Bert, Bart, or Alfred. (12) Thou must also flip thy parent's names when making reference to them, although "Unknown" or a blank line is an acceptable alternative. Thou shalt name at least 5 generations of males, and dozens of their cousins with identical names in order to totally confuse researchers.

Thank you very much John. I'm in NH so it's a challenge to be able to get to the hard copies of resources available. Pam -----Original Message----- From: John M. Hines, Sr. [mailto:toyman@iolinc.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 12:24 PM To: HCGS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HCGS] Census before West Virginia split from Virginia Pam; I don't know if this will help you or not but I have put most of my collection on CD on loan to the Harrison County Genealogy Society! I think that, that CD might be in there for the 1790 Census! Call and ask David at the Library to see! John Pam Raley wrote: > I've seen that Ancestry.com has available a CD of census before the 1790 > Federal census. Does anyone know if this information is available > non-commercially? > Pam Foster Raley > > -----Original Message----- > From: PAM BARRICKLOW [mailto:locustcreek@msn.com] > Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 11:41 AM > To: HCGS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HCGS] Census before West Virginia split from Virginia > > Before 1860 what counties of VA would be the current WV? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JSample763@aol.com > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:41 AM > To: HCGS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HCGS] Census before West Virginia split from Virginia > > Census record information for WV and VA can be somewhat confusing. For 1860 > and earlier, VA census records include what are now WV counties that were in > existence at the time. Beginning in 1870, WV has it's own census records > and > WV counties are omitted from the VA census records. > > After WV become a state in 1863, published books of census data and indexes, > including CDs of these, are most likely parochial. That is books and CDs of > census indexes and data will contain only the counties for their respective > state. > > Say you want to see the census records for Harrison County, WV for the > census > year 1860 and earlier, then you would look in the VA census records. For > published indexes and books, look under WV. > > Jim > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Pam; I don't know if this will help you or not but I have put most of my collection on CD on loan to the Harrison County Genealogy Society! I think that, that CD might be in there for the 1790 Census! Call and ask David at the Library to see! John Pam Raley wrote: > I've seen that Ancestry.com has available a CD of census before the 1790 > Federal census. Does anyone know if this information is available > non-commercially? > Pam Foster Raley > > -----Original Message----- > From: PAM BARRICKLOW [mailto:locustcreek@msn.com] > Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 11:41 AM > To: HCGS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HCGS] Census before West Virginia split from Virginia > > Before 1860 what counties of VA would be the current WV? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JSample763@aol.com > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:41 AM > To: HCGS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HCGS] Census before West Virginia split from Virginia > > Census record information for WV and VA can be somewhat confusing. For 1860 > and earlier, VA census records include what are now WV counties that were in > existence at the time. Beginning in 1870, WV has it's own census records > and > WV counties are omitted from the VA census records. > > After WV become a state in 1863, published books of census data and indexes, > including CDs of these, are most likely parochial. That is books and CDs of > census indexes and data will contain only the counties for their respective > state. > > Say you want to see the census records for Harrison County, WV for the > census > year 1860 and earlier, then you would look in the VA census records. For > published indexes and books, look under WV. > > Jim > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

thanks. -----Original Message----- From: JSample763@aol.com [mailto:JSample763@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 10:05 AM To: HCGS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HCGS] Census before West Virginia split from Virginia If you are talking about VA, the pre-1790 "census" was compiled from tax records and listed tithables (those folks required to pay taxes). These records should be available through LDS Family History Centers on microfilm. I've seen published records for Monongalia and Harrison Counties for the year 1787. Jim ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237