Charlotte, Thank you for reminding me of all the happy times we shared and the important things we keep. Thank goodness we have happy memories! Hope you have a happy and filling Thanksgiving. Ethel Charlotte Fleming wrote: > > I grew up in the forties and fifties with practical parents - a > Mother, God love her, who washed aluminum foil after she cooked in it, then > reused it. A Father who was happier getting old shoes fixed than buying new > ones. > Their marriage was good, their dreams focused. Their best friends > lived barely a wave away. I can see them now, Dad in trousers, tee shirt > and a hat and Mom in a house dress, lawn mower in one hand, dishtowel in > the other. It was the time for fixing things - a curtain rod, the kitchen > radio, screen door, the oven door, the hem in a dress. Things we keep. > It was a way of life, and sometimes it made me crazy. All that > re-fixing, reheating, renewing, I wanted just once to be wasteful. Waste > meant affluence. Throwing things away meant there'd always be more. > But then my Mother died, and on that clear summer's night, in the > warmth of the hospital room, I was struck with the pain of learning that > sometimes there isn't any 'more'. > Sometimes, what we care about most gets all used up and goes > away..........never to return. > So ........ while we have it ...........it's best we love it > ..................and care for it ......and fix it when it's broken > .......and heal it when it's sick. > This is true ................. for marriage .......and old cars > ...and children with bad report cards ...............and dogs with bad > hips .......and aging parents ............and grandparents. We keep them > because they are worth it, because we are worth it. > Some things we keep. > Like a best friend that moved away - or - a classmate we grew up > with. There are just some things that make life important.......people > we love who are special................and so, we keep them close! > This Holiday Time it is important that we let them know just how > special they are. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

How true and how this touched my heart. I can barely see through the tears now. I, too, can relate to that, as can hundreds of us. Thanks so much for sharing! Patti

You wonderful LADIES are talking about the way I feel. Thank YOU for saying for me.... Jim

I grew up in the forties and fifties with practical parents - a Mother, God love her, who washed aluminum foil after she cooked in it, then reused it. A Father who was happier getting old shoes fixed than buying new ones. Their marriage was good, their dreams focused. Their best friends lived barely a wave away. I can see them now, Dad in trousers, tee shirt and a hat and Mom in a house dress, lawn mower in one hand, dishtowel in the other. It was the time for fixing things - a curtain rod, the kitchen radio, screen door, the oven door, the hem in a dress. Things we keep. It was a way of life, and sometimes it made me crazy. All that re-fixing, reheating, renewing, I wanted just once to be wasteful. Waste meant affluence. Throwing things away meant there'd always be more. But then my Mother died, and on that clear summer's night, in the warmth of the hospital room, I was struck with the pain of learning that sometimes there isn't any 'more'. Sometimes, what we care about most gets all used up and goes away..........never to return. So ........ while we have it ...........it's best we love it ..................and care for it ......and fix it when it's broken .......and heal it when it's sick. This is true ................. for marriage .......and old cars ...and children with bad report cards ...............and dogs with bad hips .......and aging parents ............and grandparents. We keep them because they are worth it, because we are worth it. Some things we keep. Like a best friend that moved away - or - a classmate we grew up with. There are just some things that make life important.......people we love who are special................and so, we keep them close! This Holiday Time it is important that we let them know just how special they are.

Thank you, Charlotte, for reminding some of us, how we became such "collectors" of things....things that if we throw them away, we'll need them. Things that would cost a small fortune to replace now. I remind that great husband of mine just how lucky we are to have so many "treasures"..but the best, you're right, are good friends, a loving family and a strong faith in God.. Hugs, Happy Thanksgiving.... joannie Charlotte Fleming wrote: > I grew up in the forties and fifties with practical parents - a > Mother, God love her, who washed aluminum foil after she cooked in it, then > reused it. A Father who was happier getting old shoes fixed than buying new > ones. > Their marriage was good, their dreams focused. Their best friends > lived barely a wave away. I can see them now, Dad in trousers, tee shirt > and a hat and Mom in a house dress, lawn mower in one hand, dishtowel in > the other. It was the time for fixing things - a curtain rod, the kitchen > radio, screen door, the oven door, the hem in a dress. Things we keep. > It was a way of life, and sometimes it made me crazy. All that > re-fixing, reheating, renewing, I wanted just once to be wasteful. Waste > meant affluence. Throwing things away meant there'd always be more. > But then my Mother died, and on that clear summer's night, in the > warmth of the hospital room, I was struck with the pain of learning that > sometimes there isn't any 'more'. > Sometimes, what we care about most gets all used up and goes > away..........never to return. > So ........ while we have it ...........it's best we love it > ..................and care for it ......and fix it when it's broken > .......and heal it when it's sick. > This is true ................. for marriage .......and old cars > ...and children with bad report cards ...............and dogs with bad > hips .......and aging parents ............and grandparents. We keep them > because they are worth it, because we are worth it. > Some things we keep. > Like a best friend that moved away - or - a classmate we grew up > with. There are just some things that make life important.......people > we love who are special................and so, we keep them close! > This Holiday Time it is important that we let them know just how > special they are. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

You have done such a great job on this. Thanks for sharing, I love it

I found SOME answers on Methodism in Clarksburg. In my "search" I just typed in "One Hundred and Fifty Years of Methodism in Clarksburg" (by Harvey W. Harmer ..... and all kinds of stuff came popping up. This will keep me busy for a while.. Here's the first one: http://netjunk.com/users/cheuvront/text4.html Sharon

Do we have any early (local) Methodist church records available - baptisms, christenings? I know there is a Methodist church historical organization who would probably answer requests on an individual basis, but I just was wondering if we had any sort of church records collection particular to Harrison County. Thanks all.. <Sharon><

Dear Jim, You have Watson in your TribalPages, yet when I click on it, it doesn't come up. Is this an error? Thanks, Peggy Rifleman -----Original Message----- From: BUCKYK3LIE@aol.com [mailto:BUCKYK3LIE@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 10:48 AM To: HCGS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HCGS] Check out TribalPages: James Robert COTTRILL family tree http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes?userid=jimbucky&x=13&y=8 <A HREF="http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes?userid=jimbucky&x=13&y=8">http://www .tribalpages.com/tribes?userid=jimbucky&x=13&y=8</A> Hi all, My family Tree is growing on this site. Stop by and check it out. It is very easy to set up and wont let you make a mistake. Best of all it is totally free. You can do it if you try. I did! You are allowed to post 5 pictures per person. Jim Cottrill <A HREF="http://www.tribalpages.com/">Click here: TribalPages:Free Online Genealogy Family Tree Web Pages</A> This is the sign up page ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

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<A HREF="http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes?userid=jimbucky&x=13&y=8">Click here: TribalPages: James Robert COTTRILL family tree</A> <A HREF="http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes?userid=jimbucky&x=13&y=8">http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes?userid=jimbucky&x=13&y=8</A> Hi all, My family Tree is growing on this site. Stop by and check it out. It is very easy to set up and wont let you make a mistake. Best of all it is totally free. You can do it if you try. I did! You are allowed to post 5 pictures per person. Jim Cottrill <A HREF="http://www.tribalpages.com/">Click here: TribalPages:Free Online Genealogy Family Tree Web Pages</A> This is the sign up page

Even better, Sue! I'll print that out & tuck those notations in my book for next time. Thanks for your time & expertise on this blustery evening.... Sharon

I haven't seen the book, since I have a copy of the census that William H Boyce and I did back in the 60's from the actual census. The census taker had several number messed up in the 909- to 917 which was the end of the 21st District. By the looks, the census taker might have been having to much to drink taking the census or else not feeling good. We will never know. There are three groups of the section that is messed up. 907 missing 908 missing 909 missing 909 Jonathan Randolph 911 Isaac Randolph 912 missing 913 Peter F Randolph 914 Phineas F Randolph 915 George Miller 916 Thomas H Bartlett Now, notice the numbering on the rest of these. Some appear to be the missing numbers from earlier, some are repeated numbers with different people. These are copied as given. 907 Waldo P Goff 908 Thomas A Horner 909 Alpheus W Prichard 910 Ira Hart 911 John Core 912 John Carpenter 913 Mary Picheral 914 James Steel 915 George McAtel 916 Samuel Brown 917 Sarah Harper 907 J M Cook 908 David Fox 909 Henry Towles 910 Jonathan Randolph (repeat) 911 Isaac Randolph (repeat) 912 Hiram Mitchell Sue Moore -----Original Message----- From: bramhall@earthlink.net [mailto:bramhall@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:46 PM To: HCGS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HCGS] *1850 census taker errors;Jackson Cem-Harper Thanks so very much, Sue! Don't go to any additional trouble if you don't recall, but could Sarah Harper's neighborhood be determined from other family names surrounding them in the 21st District? Might it have been Ten Mile? Looking again at Wes Cochran's book "1850 Harrison Co. Census", I saw that the author had made note of some other duplications & skips by the census taker, so I highlighted those remarks in the book for my future reference. (See his remarks on pages 48, 51, 54. Don't forget the duplication of families mentioned in my last email on Pages 64 & 108 - from "Prichard to Harper" (same nine families). Another question: Was the Jackson Cemetery documented by someone on the List? I am curious to know if the James Harper and Henry Harper stones are still in tact. I promised a descendant I would try for a picture on my next trip home, if so. Thanks.... <Sharon>< Sharon Sprouse Bramhall ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thanks so very much, Sue! Don't go to any additional trouble if you don't recall, but could Sarah Harper's neighborhood be determined from other family names surrounding them in the 21st District? Might it have been Ten Mile? Looking again at Wes Cochran's book "1850 Harrison Co. Census", I saw that the author had made note of some other duplications & skips by the census taker, so I highlighted those remarks in the book for my future reference. (See his remarks on pages 48, 51, 54. Don't forget the duplication of families mentioned in my last email on Pages 64 & 108 - from "Prichard to Harper" (same nine families). Another question: Was the Jackson Cemetery documented by someone on the List? I am curious to know if the James Harper and Henry Harper stones are still in tact. I promised a descendant I would try for a picture on my next trip home, if so. Thanks.... <Sharon>< Sharon Sprouse Bramhall

This is from the Census and not the book 1850 Census Harrison co. VA 21st District 667 David Wise 33 M Farmer VA Charlotte 29 F Pheba 10 F Ester 7 F John 5 M Sarah 3 F George 36 M Farmer VA 917 Sarah Harper 39 Delaware Amanda 22 Sarah Jane 18 Mary Frances 14 James 11 VA Lela Gay 9 Harriet 7 John 7 Almada 3 -----Original Message----- From: bramhall@earthlink.net [mailto:bramhall@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:19 AM To: HCGS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HCGS] *1850 Census error or what? As I was passing along some census information from Wes Cochran's "1850 Harrison County Census", I was noting that the subject, Sarah Harper and her family, had been entered twice in the census - on pages 64 & 108. They are listed as living at both House 917 and House 667. At first, I thought this family might have been between houses (in the process of moving), but then I noticed there were several familes entered twice on above pages, beginning with Alpheus W. Prichard and ending with Sarah Harper's family. These entries also have slightly different information. Is there an explanation for this? Did the territories of the census takers over-lap or is this simply a typographical error? Is there anyone out there who can check an actual 1850 Census for these pages? Thanks much. <Sharon>< ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Charlotte Hester is from Montezuma, Iowa. She lists James Fleming with wife Ann and 2nd Mary Whitehair. The children are Edward 1789 married Nancy Prunty; Enrach D. Caston Fleming b about 1777; James Fleming, Jr., and Margaret Fleming, born about 1780 and married Jacob Brandenberry. She apparently also had the pension applications for James in which he listed Mary Whitehair as wife in 1820 and 1821. Ethel

Hi Ethel, So sorry to hear that you had such a bad experience on your trip to WV but glad to hear that you are doing better now. Gosh, it is heck to get old isn't it? The information on Hester Fleming being a descendant of Edward and Nancy Prunty Fleming is interesting. I have Edward as the son of John Fleming and Nancy Hopkins. How did she tie him to James? Was James the ancestor who served in the Rev War? Edward wasn't born until 1781 so I don't think he was the patriot. Take care. Charlotte ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ethel E Nielsen" <een10@juno.com> To: <HCGS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [HCGS] *Isaac & Mary Davisson Smith* > Hi Charlotte > I have saved this msg so I could have you look up something for me but > never got around to it. In the meantime we managed to go to WVa to so > some research and instead I spent 2 1/2 weeks in the hospital in > Morgantown. Quite an experience. Heart attack. But, I had good, > excellent care and glad if it had to happen it happened there. Anyhow, I > am home now and gettting better by the day. I ended up with 4 stents in > the heart and a whole new bunch of lung problems I did not know I had. > Anyhow, I am back, almost to normal now. > > I received a DAR record of a Hester Fleming, descendant of James Fleming > and her ancestor was Edward Fleming who married Nancy Prunty. It did not > give me any information I wanted on our John. But, thought perhaps you > might want this background. Ethel > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Charlotte I have saved this msg so I could have you look up something for me but never got around to it. In the meantime we managed to go to WVa to so some research and instead I spent 2 1/2 weeks in the hospital in Morgantown. Quite an experience. Heart attack. But, I had good, excellent care and glad if it had to happen it happened there. Anyhow, I am home now and gettting better by the day. I ended up with 4 stents in the heart and a whole new bunch of lung problems I did not know I had. Anyhow, I am back, almost to normal now. I received a DAR record of a Hester Fleming, descendant of James Fleming and her ancestor was Edward Fleming who married Nancy Prunty. It did not give me any information I wanted on our John. But, thought perhaps you might want this background. Ethel

Dumb & dumber... or am I not allowed to comment? W.B. Mc Afee ----- Original Message ----- From: <LMJenks@aol.com> To: <HCGS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:45 AM Subject: [HCGS] Who's on First > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Who's on First? > > Yesterday Hu Jintao was named chief of the Communist Party in China. > > > SCENE: The Oval Office, Washington, DC (The President & National Security > Advisor are discussing the situation) > > George: Condi! Nice to see you. What's happening? > > Condi: Sir, I have the report about the new leader of China. > > George: Great. Let's hear it. > > Condi: Hu is the new leader of China. > > George: That's what I want to know. > > Condi: That's what I'm telling you. > > George: That's what I'm asking you. Who is the new leader of China? > > Condi: Yes. > > George: I mean the fellow's name. > > Condi: Hu. > > George: The guy in China. > > Condi: Hu. > > George: The new leader of China. > > Condi: Hu. > > George: The Chinaman! > > Condi: Hu is leading China. > > George: Now whaddya' asking me for? > > Condi: I'm telling you Hu is leading China. > > George: Well, I'm asking you. Who is leading China? > > Condi: That's the man's name. > > George: That's whose name? > > Condi: Yes. > > George: Will you or will you not tell me the name of the new leader of China? > > Condi: Yes sir. > > George: Yassir? You mean Arafat is in China? I thought he was in the Middle > East. > > Condi: That's correct. > > George: Then who is in China? > > Condi: Yes, sir. > > George: Yassir is in China? > > Condi: No, sir. > > George: Then who is? > > Condi: Yes, sir. > > George: Yassir? > > Condi: No, sir. > > George: Look, Condi. I need to know the name of the new leader of China. Get > me the Secretary General of the U.N. on the phone. I bet he knows. > > Condi: Kofi? > > George: No, thanks. > > Condi: You want Kofi? > > George: No. > > Condi: You don't want Kofi. > > George: No. But now that you mention it, I could use a glass of milk. And > then get me the U.N. > > Condi: Yes, sir. > > George: Not Yassir! The guy at the U.N. > > Condi: Kofi? > > George: No, milk! Will you please make the call? > > Condi: Call who? > > George: Who is the guy at the U.N? > > Condi: Hu is the guy in China. > > George: Will you stay out of China?! > > Condi: Yes, sir. > > George: And stay out of the Middle East! Just get me the guy at the U.N! > > Condi: Kofi? > > George: All right! Light with sugar. Now get on the phone. > > (Condi picks up the phone.) > > Condi: Rice here. > > George: Rice? Good idea. And a couple of egg rolls, too. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

As I was passing along some census information from Wes Cochran's "1850 Harrison County Census", I was noting that the subject, Sarah Harper and her family, had been entered twice in the census - on pages 64 & 108. They are listed as living at both House 917 and House 667. At first, I thought this family might have been between houses (in the process of moving), but then I noticed there were several familes entered twice on above pages, beginning with Alpheus W. Prichard and ending with Sarah Harper's family. These entries also have slightly different information. Is there an explanation for this? Did the territories of the census takers over-lap or is this simply a typographical error? Is there anyone out there who can check an actual 1850 Census for these pages? Thanks much. <Sharon><