So does need to be a male with the last name of Hayden for the testing to be valid? My tie to Hayden is: Julia Hayden (the daughter of Nehemiah that I have on the web site) Her son Otis Dickey His daughter Julia Dickey (My grandmother) Her daughter Donna Pratt (My mother). So if I or my mother were tested would it help the project any? Ernie -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "shayden" <shayden@columbus.rr.com> > The Hayden DNA Project currently has 22 members tested. The Hayden pedigrees > are as follows. > > Four descendants of Francis Heydon of MD; 3 well documented, one shown where > connects to Francis' line. > > Six descendants of John Hayden of MA; 3 well documented, 2 have secondary > sources at some links and 1 who had no clue he was related. This line is > fortunate to have the unique pair of values in the first marker panel. > > Two descendants of William, both well documented. > > Four Hadens with two lines that may or may not share a common ancestor since > immigration to America. > > Five Irish Haydens with one awaiting results. None of the four appear to > share a common ancestor. > > > > One Hayden of unknown origin who connects to no other tested lines. > > Since mutation of the Y-chromosome happens at random generation changes, one > can only calculate the probability of a shared common male ancestor. > Disproving a connection is generally easier than establishing one. For > example, since there was only a 0.02% of John and William sharing a common > father, I believe we can conclude they were not brothers. > > So, Carol is correct. Y-chromosome DNA testing analysis is an exercise in > statistics. Increasing the number of markers tested and increasing the > number of people tested both increase the sample size which, in turn, > decreases the width of the confidence interval. > > However, researchers looking for the father of John have a great advantage > in the unique combination of two markers on the Y-chromosome. In this case, > the sample size of the American cousins is large enough. What is now needed > is English cousins to get tested. > > You can see the DNA project results at > http://www.rhhandson.com/hayden_dna.html . > > Steve Hayden > >

Sorry, Ernie. The test measures markers on the Y-chromosome. Only males have the Y-chromosome so it is passed from father to son. Your Y-chromosome is that of your father, his father and so on back. In your case, you would need to find a Hayden male descendant of Nehemiah. The surname does not have to be Hayden but unless there is a link, such as a name change, assuming a common male ancestor can be risky. For example, one of the descendants of William Hayden of CT in the project has the surname Keys. The test confirmed that this subject did descend from William Hayden as was believed based on research. Steve Hayden -----Original Message----- From: hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ernie_jones@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:16 AM To: hayden@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] DNA - John Hayden So does need to be a male with the last name of Hayden for the testing to be valid? My tie to Hayden is: Julia Hayden (the daughter of Nehemiah that I have on the web site) Her son Otis Dickey His daughter Julia Dickey (My grandmother) Her daughter Donna Pratt (My mother). So if I or my mother were tested would it help the project any? Ernie -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "shayden" <shayden@columbus.rr.com> > The Hayden DNA Project currently has 22 members tested. The Hayden pedigrees > are as follows. > > Four descendants of Francis Heydon of MD; 3 well documented, one shown where > connects to Francis' line. > > Six descendants of John Hayden of MA; 3 well documented, 2 have secondary > sources at some links and 1 who had no clue he was related. This line is > fortunate to have the unique pair of values in the first marker panel. > > Two descendants of William, both well documented. > > Four Hadens with two lines that may or may not share a common ancestor since > immigration to America. > > Five Irish Haydens with one awaiting results. None of the four appear to > share a common ancestor. > > > > One Hayden of unknown origin who connects to no other tested lines. > > Since mutation of the Y-chromosome happens at random generation changes, one > can only calculate the probability of a shared common male ancestor. > Disproving a connection is generally easier than establishing one. For > example, since there was only a 0.02% of John and William sharing a common > father, I believe we can conclude they were not brothers. > > So, Carol is correct. Y-chromosome DNA testing analysis is an exercise in > statistics. Increasing the number of markers tested and increasing the > number of people tested both increase the sample size which, in turn, > decreases the width of the confidence interval. > > However, researchers looking for the father of John have a great advantage > in the unique combination of two markers on the Y-chromosome. In this case, > the sample size of the American cousins is large enough. What is now needed > is English cousins to get tested. > > You can see the DNA project results at > http://www.rhhandson.com/hayden_dna.html . > > Steve Hayden > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message