Thanks....that's what I thought but wasn't sure. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "shayden" <shayden@columbus.rr.com> > Sorry, Ernie. The test measures markers on the Y-chromosome. Only males have > the Y-chromosome so it is passed from father to son. Your Y-chromosome is > that of your father, his father and so on back. In your case, you would need > to find a Hayden male descendant of Nehemiah. > > The surname does not have to be Hayden but unless there is a link, such as a > name change, assuming a common male ancestor can be risky. For example, one > of the descendants of William Hayden of CT in the project has the surname > Keys. The test confirmed that this subject did descend from William Hayden > as was believed based on research. > > Steve Hayden > > -----Original Message----- > From: hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of ernie_jones@comcast.net > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:16 AM > To: hayden@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] DNA - John Hayden > > So does need to be a male with the last name of Hayden for the testing to be > valid? > > My tie to Hayden is: > Julia Hayden (the daughter of Nehemiah that I have on the web site) > Her son Otis Dickey > His daughter Julia Dickey (My grandmother) > Her daughter Donna Pratt (My mother). > > So if I or my mother were tested would it help the project any? > > Ernie > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "shayden" <shayden@columbus.rr.com> > > The Hayden DNA Project currently has 22 members tested. The Hayden > pedigrees > > are as follows. > > > > Four descendants of Francis Heydon of MD; 3 well documented, one shown > where > > connects to Francis' line. > > > > Six descendants of John Hayden of MA; 3 well documented, 2 have secondary > > sources at some links and 1 who had no clue he was related. This line is > > fortunate to have the unique pair of values in the first marker panel. > > > > Two descendants of William, both well documented. > > > > Four Hadens with two lines that may or may not share a common ancestor > since > > immigration to America. > > > > Five Irish Haydens with one awaiting results. None of the four appear to > > share a common ancestor. > > > > > > > > One Hayden of unknown origin who connects to no other tested lines. > > > > Since mutation of the Y-chromosome happens at random generation changes, > one > > can only calculate the probability of a shared common male ancestor. > > Disproving a connection is generally easier than establishing one. For > > example, since there was only a 0.02% of John and William sharing a common > > father, I believe we can conclude they were not brothers. > > > > So, Carol is correct. Y-chromosome DNA testing analysis is an exercise in > > statistics. Increasing the number of markers tested and increasing the > > number of people tested both increase the sample size which, in turn, > > decreases the width of the confidence interval. > > > > However, researchers looking for the father of John have a great advantage > > in the unique combination of two markers on the Y-chromosome. In this > case, > > the sample size of the American cousins is large enough. What is now > needed > > is English cousins to get tested. > > > > You can see the DNA project results at > > http://www.rhhandson.com/hayden_dna.html . > > > > > Steve Hayden > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

I'm a CT Hayden. I have 10 Nehemiahs' and 9 Williams'. --- ernie_jones@comcast.net wrote: > Thanks....that's what I thought but wasn't sure. > > > -------------- Original message > ---------------------- > From: "shayden" <shayden@columbus.rr.com> > > Sorry, Ernie. The test measures markers on the > Y-chromosome. Only males have > > the Y-chromosome so it is passed from father to > son. Your Y-chromosome is > > that of your father, his father and so on back. In > your case, you would need > > to find a Hayden male descendant of Nehemiah. > > > > The surname does not have to be Hayden but unless > there is a link, such as a > > name change, assuming a common male ancestor can > be risky. For example, one > > of the descendants of William Hayden of CT in the > project has the surname > > Keys. The test confirmed that this subject did > descend from William Hayden > > as was believed based on research. > > > > Steve Hayden > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > > Behalf Of ernie_jones@comcast.net > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:16 AM > > To: hayden@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] DNA - John Hayden > > > > So does need to be a male with the last name of > Hayden for the testing to be > > valid? > > > > My tie to Hayden is: > > Julia Hayden (the daughter of Nehemiah that I have > on the web site) > > Her son Otis Dickey > > His daughter Julia Dickey (My > grandmother) > > Her daughter Donna Pratt (My > mother). > > > > So if I or my mother were tested would it help the > project any? > > > > Ernie > > > > > > -------------- Original message > ---------------------- > > From: "shayden" <shayden@columbus.rr.com> > > > The Hayden DNA Project currently has 22 members > tested. The Hayden > > pedigrees > > > are as follows. > > > > > > Four descendants of Francis Heydon of MD; 3 well > documented, one shown > > where > > > connects to Francis' line. > > > > > > Six descendants of John Hayden of MA; 3 well > documented, 2 have secondary > > > sources at some links and 1 who had no clue he > was related. This line is > > > fortunate to have the unique pair of values in > the first marker panel. > > > > > > Two descendants of William, both well > documented. > > > > > > Four Hadens with two lines that may or may not > share a common ancestor > > since > > > immigration to America. > > > > > > Five Irish Haydens with one awaiting results. > None of the four appear to > > > share a common ancestor. > > > > > > > > > > > > One Hayden of unknown origin who connects to no > other tested lines. > > > > > > Since mutation of the Y-chromosome happens at > random generation changes, > > one > > > can only calculate the probability of a shared > common male ancestor. > > > Disproving a connection is generally easier than > establishing one. For > > > example, since there was only a 0.02% of John > and William sharing a common > > > father, I believe we can conclude they were not > brothers. > > > > > > So, Carol is correct. Y-chromosome DNA testing > analysis is an exercise in > > > statistics. Increasing the number of markers > tested and increasing the > > > number of people tested both increase the sample > size which, in turn, > > > decreases the width of the confidence interval. > > > > > > However, researchers looking for the father of > John have a great advantage > > > in the unique combination of two markers on the > Y-chromosome. In this > > case, > > > the sample size of the American cousins is large > enough. What is now > > needed > > > is English cousins to get tested. > > > > > > You can see the DNA project results at > > > http://www.rhhandson.com/hayden_dna.html . > > > > > > > > Steve Hayden > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >