Any Nathaniel, Elijah or Augustine? -----Original Message----- From: hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lauren Smith Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:08 PM To: hayden@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] DNA - John Hayden I'm a CT Hayden. I have 10 Nehemiahs' and 9 Williams'. --- ernie_jones@comcast.net wrote: > Thanks....that's what I thought but wasn't sure. > > > -------------- Original message > ---------------------- > From: "shayden" <shayden@columbus.rr.com> > > Sorry, Ernie. The test measures markers on the > Y-chromosome. Only males have > > the Y-chromosome so it is passed from father to > son. Your Y-chromosome is > > that of your father, his father and so on back. In > your case, you would need > > to find a Hayden male descendant of Nehemiah. > > > > The surname does not have to be Hayden but unless > there is a link, such as a > > name change, assuming a common male ancestor can > be risky. For example, one > > of the descendants of William Hayden of CT in the > project has the surname > > Keys. The test confirmed that this subject did > descend from William Hayden > > as was believed based on research. > > > > Steve Hayden > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > > Behalf Of ernie_jones@comcast.net > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:16 AM > > To: hayden@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] DNA - John Hayden > > > > So does need to be a male with the last name of > Hayden for the testing to be > > valid? > > > > My tie to Hayden is: > > Julia Hayden (the daughter of Nehemiah that I have > on the web site) > > Her son Otis Dickey > > His daughter Julia Dickey (My > grandmother) > > Her daughter Donna Pratt (My > mother). > > > > So if I or my mother were tested would it help the > project any? > > > > Ernie > > > > > > -------------- Original message > ---------------------- > > From: "shayden" <shayden@columbus.rr.com> > > > The Hayden DNA Project currently has 22 members > tested. The Hayden > > pedigrees > > > are as follows. > > > > > > Four descendants of Francis Heydon of MD; 3 well > documented, one shown > > where > > > connects to Francis' line. > > > > > > Six descendants of John Hayden of MA; 3 well > documented, 2 have secondary > > > sources at some links and 1 who had no clue he > was related. This line is > > > fortunate to have the unique pair of values in > the first marker panel. > > > > > > Two descendants of William, both well > documented. > > > > > > Four Hadens with two lines that may or may not > share a common ancestor > > since > > > immigration to America. > > > > > > Five Irish Haydens with one awaiting results. > None of the four appear to > > > share a common ancestor. > > > > > > > > > > > > One Hayden of unknown origin who connects to no > other tested lines. > > > > > > Since mutation of the Y-chromosome happens at > random generation changes, > > one > > > can only calculate the probability of a shared > common male ancestor. > > > Disproving a connection is generally easier than > establishing one. For > > > example, since there was only a 0.02% of John > and William sharing a common > > > father, I believe we can conclude they were not > brothers. > > > > > > So, Carol is correct. Y-chromosome DNA testing > analysis is an exercise in > > > statistics. Increasing the number of markers > tested and increasing the > > > number of people tested both increase the sample > size which, in turn, > > > decreases the width of the confidence interval. > > > > > > However, researchers looking for the father of > John have a great advantage > > > in the unique combination of two markers on the > Y-chromosome. In this > > case, > > > the sample size of the American cousins is large > enough. What is now > > needed > > > is English cousins to get tested. > > > > > > You can see the DNA project results at > > > http://www.rhhandson.com/hayden_dna.html . > > > > > > > > Steve Hayden > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No No and No sorry!!!! --- Cindy Valley <cvalley@bvafirm.com> wrote: > Any Nathaniel, Elijah or Augustine? > > -----Original Message----- > From: hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Lauren Smith > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:08 PM > To: hayden@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] DNA - John Hayden > > I'm a CT Hayden. I have 10 Nehemiahs' and 9 > Williams'. > --- ernie_jones@comcast.net wrote: > > > Thanks....that's what I thought but wasn't sure. > > > > > > -------------- Original message > > ---------------------- > > From: "shayden" <shayden@columbus.rr.com> > > > Sorry, Ernie. The test measures markers on the > > Y-chromosome. Only males have > > > the Y-chromosome so it is passed from father to > > son. Your Y-chromosome is > > > that of your father, his father and so on back. > In > > your case, you would need > > > to find a Hayden male descendant of Nehemiah. > > > > > > The surname does not have to be Hayden but > unless > > there is a link, such as a > > > name change, assuming a common male ancestor can > > be risky. For example, one > > > of the descendants of William Hayden of CT in > the > > project has the surname > > > Keys. The test confirmed that this subject did > > descend from William Hayden > > > as was believed based on research. > > > > > > Steve Hayden > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > > > Behalf Of ernie_jones@comcast.net > > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:16 AM > > > To: hayden@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] DNA - John Hayden > > > > > > So does need to be a male with the last name of > > Hayden for the testing to be > > > valid? > > > > > > My tie to Hayden is: > > > Julia Hayden (the daughter of Nehemiah that I > have > > on the web site) > > > Her son Otis Dickey > > > His daughter Julia Dickey (My > > grandmother) > > > Her daughter Donna Pratt (My > > mother). > > > > > > So if I or my mother were tested would it help > the > > project any? > > > > > > Ernie > > > > > > > > > -------------- Original message > > ---------------------- > > > From: "shayden" <shayden@columbus.rr.com> > > > > The Hayden DNA Project currently has 22 > members > > tested. The Hayden > > > pedigrees > > > > are as follows. > > > > > > > > Four descendants of Francis Heydon of MD; 3 > well > > documented, one shown > > > where > > > > connects to Francis' line. > > > > > > > > Six descendants of John Hayden of MA; 3 well > > documented, 2 have secondary > > > > sources at some links and 1 who had no clue he > > was related. This line is > > > > fortunate to have the unique pair of values in > > the first marker panel. > > > > > > > > Two descendants of William, both well > > documented. > > > > > > > > Four Hadens with two lines that may or may not > > share a common ancestor > > > since > > > > immigration to America. > > > > > > > > Five Irish Haydens with one awaiting results. > > None of the four appear to > > > > share a common ancestor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One Hayden of unknown origin who connects to > no > > other tested lines. > > > > > > > > Since mutation of the Y-chromosome happens at > > random generation changes, > > > one > > > > can only calculate the probability of a shared > > common male ancestor. > > > > Disproving a connection is generally easier > than > > establishing one. For > > > > example, since there was only a 0.02% of John > > and William sharing a common > > > > father, I believe we can conclude they were > not > > brothers. > > > > > > > > So, Carol is correct. Y-chromosome DNA testing > > analysis is an exercise in > > > > statistics. Increasing the number of markers > > tested and increasing the > > > > number of people tested both increase the > sample > > size which, in turn, > > > > decreases the width of the confidence > interval. > > > > > > > > However, researchers looking for the father of > > John have a great advantage > > > > in the unique combination of two markers on > the > > Y-chromosome. In this > > > case, > > > > the sample size of the American cousins is > large > > enough. What is now > > > needed > > > > is English cousins to get tested. > > > > > > > > You can see the DNA project results at > > > > http://www.rhhandson.com/hayden_dna.html . > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Hayden > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email > > to > > > HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email > > to > > > HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and > > the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >