I very much agree with Don, as I am a direct descendant of Noah Hayden, Noah Gilpin Hayden , and those children listed under Noah Gilpin Hayden and his second wife are NOT correct at all. There is in fact some disagreement in which children of Noah Hayden and both his wives go with which wife?? But as Don stated, those are the children of Noah Haydens father William and Lydia.........Noah's siblings, not his children. This is the chart I have compiled for William Hayden's family: Descendants of William B. Hayden 1 William B. Hayden b: August 05, 1727 in Braintree, Norfolk Co.,MA. d: July 1823 in Fayette Co. Fayette,PA. .. +Lydia Kiersted [Casted] b: Abt. February 14, 1723/24 in Staten Island m: 1748 d: Abt. 1795 .. 2 Hosea Hayden .. 2 Lottimore Hayden d: March 1814 .. 2 Pamelia Hayden ...... +Unknown Ratcliffe .. 2 Percina Hayden ...... +Unknown Jackman .. 2 Webb Hayden .. 2 John Hayden b: October 26, 1749 in Morriston, Morris Co.,NJ d: July 24, 1836 in Haydentwon, Fayette Co.,PA. ...... +Charity Gard b: 1751 in Hanover Twp.,Morris Co.,NJ m: Abt. 1773 in Georges Twp.,Fayette Co.PA. d: December 25, 1797 in Georges Twp.,Fayette Co.PA. .. *2nd Wife of John Hayden: ...... +Mary Ann Snider b: September 26, 1773 in Georges Twp.,Fayette Co.PA. m: March 01, 1798 in Georges Twp.,Fayette Co.PA. d: October 13, 1863 in Monroe, Fayette Co.,PA. .. 2 Stephen Hayden b: 1756 in Morristown, Morris Co., N.J. d: 1836 ...... +Susanna Skidmore b: 1765 in N.J. m: May 19, 1779 in New York, N.Y. .. 2 Enoch Hayden b: March 27, 1755 in Morristown, N.J. d: July 16, 1843 in Near Palmyra MO., Marion Co. ...... +Mary Shobe b: in N.J. .. *2nd Wife of Enoch Hayden: ...... +Rebecca Whaley b: in N.J. m: 1785 in N.J. .. 2 Noah Hayden b: March 27, 1755 in Morristown, N.J. d: Bef. 1820 in Mercer Co.,KY ...... +Mary Elliott b: Bef. 1767 m: Bef. 1783 in Randolph Co.,VA d: Bef. 1788 in Mercer Co.,KY .. *2nd Wife of Noah Hayden: ...... +Elizabeth Giplin b: Bef. 1765 m: June 11, 1804 in Mercer Co.,KY d: May 11, 1834 in Versailles,Mercer Co.,KY .. 2 Charlotte Hayden b: January 30, 1765 .. 2 William Belemus Hayden b: March 15, 1766 d: June 11, 1834 ...... +Hannah Ramsey Father: John Ramsey Mother: Louisa Hull ........................original messages................................. he information given below seems to show the children of William Hayden, father of Noah, as being the children of Noah. We need to back up and ensure that this is an accurate translation from the book. If it is, the whole book is suspect as to its accuracy. William's children are well documented. Don Summers ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dashes1@aol.com> To: <hayden@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] John Hayden 1630 sailed on the "Mary and John" fromEngland > The following information is the last of the chart that was in the book > the > submitter was Ula Porter Hayden below: > Thanks for your email > Estelle Farris > > Descendants of Noah Hayden > 1 Noah Hayden b: March 27, 1755 d: Abt. 1825 > .. +Unknown wife of Noah Hayden d: Bef. 1788 > ........ 2 Nancy Hayden > ........ 2 Pamela Hayden > *2nd Wife of Noah Hayden: > .. +Elizabeth Gilpin d: 1836 > ........ 2 Hosea Hayden > ........ 2 Charlotte Hayden > ........ 2 Rebecca Hayden > ........ 2 Webb Hayden > ........ 2 Lot Hayden > ........ 2 Margaret Hayden > ........ 2 William Belemus Hayden b: March 15 d: January 11, 1834 > ............ +Hannah Ramsey > ................... 3 Hannah Ramsey Hayden > ....................... +Lilburn W. Lewis > ................... 3 John Ramsey Hayden b: July 25, 1797 d: August 31, > 1838 > ....................... +Scotia Warden > ............................. 4 Charles Hayden > ............................. 4 Messena Hayden > ............................. 4 Marcellus Montgomery Hayden > ............................. 4 William Warren Warden Hayden > ............................. 4 John Ramsey Hayden, Jr. > ................... 3 Malinda L. Hayden > ................... 3 Margaret Hayden > ................... 3 Mary Ann Hayden > ................... 3 Rebecca Hayden > ................... 3 Samuel Hayden > ................... 3 George Anson Hayden b: March 21, 1800 d: November > 14, > 1828 > ....................... +Adaline Beeler > ................... 3 Anaximander Belemus Hayden b: December 12, 1807 d: > December 16, 1891 > ....................... +Louisa Thompson d: September 20, 1892 > ............................. 4 George Anson Hayden II b: July 21, 1846 > d: > June 05, 1888 > ................................. +Alice Mott > ........................................ 5 Albert Belemus Hayden > ........................................ 5 Anaximander Montgomery Hayden > ........................................ 5 Clyde Chapman Hayden > ............................. *2nd Wife of George Anson Hayden II: > ................................. +Emma Humphries > ........................................ 5 Edith May Hayden > ........................................ 5 Bessie Raye Hayden > ................................. 5 Carlton Aubry Hayden > .................................... +Ula Porter > 2 Unknown children > ........................................ 5 Ivadelle Estelle Hayden > ........................................ 5 William Jennings Bryan Hayden > ........................................ 5 Basil Anson Hayden > N.J.Skinner White : vwhite0901@aol.com _My Family Tree Page_ (http://hometown.aol.com/vwhite0901/myhomepage/heritage.html) & _My Family and more_ (http://hometown.aol.com/vwhite0901/myhomepage/family.html) "Remember the days of old; consider the generations long past." 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