Tony I know just what you mean. I have been, on and off looking for my family since 1977. Two or three years ago I found a cousin in Ohio that was doing look-ups and we have been looking every since. I know that Hayden's have to submit to the DNA to be connected, but with as many that has submitted I just can't believe I am not matching SOMEONE out there. On the Hayden DNA Project, I am the very last one that is ungrouped. AS far back as we can go for sure is with George Washington Hayden, born PA in 1821. He is my GG Grandfather. From him forward I can go right to me. But from him back, can not find his father. My Uncle that has been doing this for many years said that his father was Richard that married a Catharine Quickie in Bath VA. Around 1899. There are 3 George Washington Hayden's so we call them GW1, GW2,GW3. Gw3 was my father's father. As for GW1's brother's I think I know them but again can not prove it or those the father and mother is. Some say that GW1 was born in Ohio, but on GW2's death certif.. it says GW1 was born in PA. GW1 was married to a Selina also spelled Celina Mitchell. We did find were they are buried, in Ohio but nothing else. Maybe he slipped thought the cracks too. George -----Original Message----- From: hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Payne Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:19 PM To: hayden@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] Thomas de Heydon to Dr. Clement Hayden George, It's amazing, with so much Hayden information availableto be able to slip through the cracks is really something! It is remarkable that your Hayden DNA doesn't match up at all. You must be from a thoroughly different Hayden line completely. Hope you find your line! John partners@houseofhayden.com wrote: John and Linda, Know just what and how you feel. I even did the Hayden DNA and was told that I don't match Hayden. I guess I started my own Hayden with just me. George Hayden Belhaven NC -----Original Message----- From: hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Payne Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:27 PM To: hayden@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] Thomas de Heydon to Dr. Clement Hayden Linda, Do not feel too badly, with all the activity of the past three years I have found nobody here with info on my Haydens either! And they were from Maryland in the 18th/19th century! Happy hunting and I hope you eventually make your connection. John Payne Milford Connecticut Linda Hopkins wrote: I cant believe that wiht all that is going on on the list that no one has any info on my hayden. My g grandfather was Clifton Erwin Hayden. b 21 April 1889 in Springfield MA d. 16 Jan 1976 Clarinda Ia. He married Sarah Elizabeth Munsell 2 Jan 1915 in Sproingfiled MA at Park Baptist Church. His father was William Hayden and his mother was Frances Patterson. This is all that I have on this line and have been looking for many years for any more. I can find my g grandfather on the census but only after he was married and had my grandmother and her sister. They lived all their lives in Springfield MA until after my g grandmother died and he moved to Iowa to live with my grandparents until he passed away. Any info would be very helpful no matter how little it is. Linda Hopkins --------------------------------- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message