Funny thing is that, as soon as I sent the email, I started getting list traffic messages again. First I have seen since 6/14. I'll check out the update you posted. Didn't get a chance this weekend - too much outdoor work trying to finish up some haying and a lot of "bushhogging" some overgrown fields for a cousin. Great weather up here to be out, but it is sure getting super dry. Bob -------------- Original message from "shayden" <shayden@columbus.rr.com>: -------------- > Bob, > > > > It's not your ISP this time! The list is still active; just in a sabbatical > right now. We need Tony Burgess to stir things up again! > > > > I have just updated the Hayden DNA Project page at > http://www.rhhandson.com/hayden_dna.html with two new project members' > results. One descends from an Irish Hayden and doesn't connect to any other > Irish Haydens. We now have six Irish Haydens in the Project and none appear > to be related. The other new member of unknown descent was found to descend > from Francis of MD. In fact, we are able to assert with good confidence > which Francis line in America this member connects to. > > > > Steve Hayden > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of bnhayden@att.net > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 8:13 AM > To: hayden@rootsweb.com; hayden@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HAYDEN] Hayden List? and DNA project > > > > Hi Hayden Listers! > > > > Hope everyone is having a safe and enjoyable holiday weekend! > > > > Is the list still active? I haven't seen any emails or activity at all > since mid June. In the past I have experienced "issues" with AT&T, my isp, > and lists - Kept getting bumped off the Sheep-List until I couldn't even > resubscribe so had to change to my Yahoo email account. > > > > What is the status of the DNA project. I haven't had time this summer to > keep up on it since I got my results back. > > > > Thanks much! > > > > Bob Hayden > > Hayden Farm (A family tradition since 1790) > > Hollis, NH > > > > -------------- Original message from "shayden" : > -------------- > > > > > > > The Hayden DNA Project currently has 22 members tested. The Hayden > pedigrees > > > are as follows. > > > > > > > > > > > > Four descendants of Francis Heydon of MD; 3 well documented, one shown > where > > > connects to Francis' line. > > > > > > > > > > > > Six descendants of John Hayden of MA; 3 well documented, 2 have secondary > > > sources at some links and 1 who had no clue he was related. This line is > > > fortunate to have the unique pair of values in the first marker panel. > > > > > > > > > > > > Two descendants of William, both well documented. > > > > > > > > > > > > Four Hadens with two lines that may or may not share a common ancestor > since > > > immigration to America. > > > > > > > > > > > > Five Irish Haydens with one awaiting results. None of the four appear to > > > share a common ancestor. > > > > > > > > > > > > One Hayden of unknown origin who connects to no other tested lines. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since mutation of the Y-chromosome happens at random generation changes, > one > > > can only calculate the probability of a shared common male ancestor. > > > Disproving a connection is generally easier than establishing one. For > > > example, since there was only a 0.02% of John and William sharing a common > > > > father, I believe we can conclude they were not brothers. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, Carol is correct. Y-chromosome DNA testing analysis is an exercise in > > > statistics. Increasing the number of markers tested and increasing the > > > number of people tested both increase the sample size which, in turn, > > > decreases the width of the confidence interval. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, researchers looking for the father of John have a great advantage > > > > in the unique combination of two markers on the Y-chromosome. In this > case, > > > the sample size of the American cousins is large enough. What is now > needed > > > is English cousins to get tested. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can see the DNA project results at > > > http://www.rhhandson.com/hayden_dna.html . > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Hayden > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > > > Behalf Of CEVaughan412@aol.com > > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 7:08 AM > > > To: hayden@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [HAYDEN] DNA - John Hayden > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a question about the Hayden DNA testing. How many Hayden's have > > > been > > > > > > tested in this project? While I believe that DNA testing is the only > > > answer > > > > > > to this John - Gideon thing, we need numbers to prove it for sure. How > > > > > > many people aren't who they think they are due to extra-marital births, > > > > > > unrecorded adoptions etc over the years? I just think that there is not > > > enough > > > > > > Hayden descendants in the DNA database and we certainly need those across > > > the > > > > > > Pond to join. > > > > > > Carol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message