Estelle, There are a number of references which can be used with some confidence in their accuracy. The Mayflower Society has accepted Genealogical History of Our Ancestors by Wm. Rutherford as a source of William and Lydia Kierstede Hayden's children. The following is a list of the children from Volume 1 page 361: John b. 26 Oct 1749; d. 24 July 1836; Stephen, baptised 31 Oct 1756; d. 1836; Enoch, b. 27 March 1755; d. 16 July 1843; Noah, b. 27 March 1755; Hosea, baptised 16 Oct. 1757; Pamela; Percina; Webb; Lott; Charlotte, b. 30 January 1765; William Belemus, b. 15 March 1766; d. 11 June 1834. Another source is Capon Valley - It's Pioneers and Descendants by Maud Pugh. She lists William's children on page 204. Noah's daughters by his first wife are listed but not the seven Maud attributes to the second wife. The children listed for William Belemus appear to be accurate though this is not my line and I have not researched them. My wife is a descendant of Webb Hayden and so I have concentrated my efforts on documenting him and his family. Don Summers ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dashes1@aol.com> To: <hayden@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] John Hayden 1630 sailed on the "Mary and John"fromEngland > Don, > On my original email I asked if anyone could tell me anything of the > accuracy of this chart. It was apparently submitted to a newspaper and then > Mildred Watkins bound these into a book which I saw in the library and copied > the page with the Hayden information. If it is inaccurate I would appreciate > any corrections you would be willing to share with me. > Estelle Farris > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
The book I have is called "Genealogical History of our Ancestors" Volume 1, 1977, by William Kenneth Rutherford
Don, On my original email I asked if anyone could tell me anything of the accuracy of this chart. It was apparently submitted to a newspaper and then Mildred Watkins bound these into a book which I saw in the library and copied the page with the Hayden information. If it is inaccurate I would appreciate any corrections you would be willing to share with me. Estelle Farris <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Thanks. Keep me informed! The Mayflower application is on its way. You will need to find your local group through mayflowersociety.org. Pat On Mar 1, 2007, at 5:48 PM, Catoohey wrote: > The book I have is called "Genealogical History of our Ancestors" > Volume 1, 1977, by William Kenneth Rutherford
Hi I am tracing the Heydon line from Thomas via the Watford branch and Francis E Hayden who entered via St Mary's County in Maryland. Would like to share information from Thomas via the Watford branch and St Mary's to me. Charlie Russell 6016 Rhonda Road Lynchburg VA 24502 434-237-1432 candbet@juno.com
In a message dated 2/27/2007 3:36:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ehayden@sbcglobal.net writes: But all branches will be included. I believe I can get it up and running later tonight. Good luck to you, and thank you for your efforts. I don't connect back to Hayden with a male parent in about 6 or 8 generations. Mine were in MA, settling in Braintree about 1630. 1. John Hayden (son of Gideon Hayden and Margaret Davy) 1611-1682. md Susannah Pullen (c. 1615-1652+/-) Their son 2- John Hayden (1 Jan 1634/35-29 May 1718) md Hannah Ames MA vital records show 2 Samuel's, 1635/6 and 1638, both died young. Other children: Jonathan, Hannah, Nehemiah, Ebeneezer, William, and another Samuel. Their daughter 3- Hannah Hayden (3 Jan 1660-61 - 29 Sept 1743) md. Nathaniel Thayer on 27 May 1679 in Braintree, MA (this is where my 1st husband's line branched off the Hayden line) they are also credited with Sarah, Elizabeth, Joseph, Lydia, John, Abigail, Josiah There are 2 Joseph's listed, 1663 & 1673, 2 Abigail's, 1663 & 1667. <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Hi, My previous message, quoted below was intended privately to the sender, however I don't mind that it went to everyone. I setup the new Hayden Family Genealogy Database at: www.hayden.org/genealogy and invite all to submit your Hayden names to be added to the database. I will mine some names from recent posts but would appreciate some of the longer lists to be sent by GEDCOM file. I got the database started using an extract from my own database. Of course it contains some of the "accepted" theories and conventions we know are not necessarily correct and certainly are not proven. Notes to that effect need to be added to more accurately show the status of the links. I am depending on our entire group to aid in getting these things straightened out. As I mentioned before, I would like to present all the theories In a somewhat orderly way so that we can all participate in the sorting process. Of course I definitely invite comments to be added to the site. I may not have everything setup correctly yet, but you should be able to navigate around the site and find the methods to make comments. If you register, you will be given an area to keep your own notes and contributions. While I have been using the PHPGEDView program for a while at my www.edwardhayden.com site for my personal family, I have not used it as a collaborative project before, so I will be learning about this with you. I hope this aids in our research efforts so I am looking forward to your participation. Thanks for your interest in this project. Edward Hayden P.S. I expect to receive the results of my DNA test in just a few weeks so I am anxiously waiting for them. -----Original Message----- From: hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Edward Hayden Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:42 PM To: hayden@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] John Hayden 1630 sailed on the "Mary andJohn"fromEngland Hi, I think I am going to install a database on my site strictly for all Hayden ancestors and include DNA information as well as notes and innput from all Hayden researchers. It will be like the database I have at www.edwardhayden.com/genealogy1 but restricted to Haydens, spouses and offspring. Since it is a database, it could be searched for linked or unlinked persons. If y0u could send your information in GEDCOM format, it would save me a lot of typing and help get it off to a good start. I plan to be clear about links that have been traditionally accepted, but are now in question. Notes and input from all the active researchers would be welcomed and added to the site. Conflicting views can both be presented and everyone can go to one place to help sort out their own trees. I know I have a number of dubious links in my own chart which I would like to tighten up. My personal family tree is through Maryland to Kentucky and eventually South Texas. But all branches will be included. I believe I can get it up and running later tonight. Thanks, Edward hayden@rootsweb.com list keeper www.hayden.org www.edwardhayden.com -----Original Message----- From: hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of VWhite0901@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:31 AM To: hayden@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] John Hayden 1630 sailed on the "Mary and John"fromEngland
Steve, Thank you. I will forward this email to my brother and maybe he will volunteer to be tested. It is rumored that our family fled New York shortly after the American Revolution and made their way to Canada where they stayed until the early 20th Century. It is possible we are of English descent but I have also heard/read the possibility that we are of German descent. Kathie (daughter of John Huntley Hayden, son of George Anderson Hayden, son of Henry Hayden, son of William Hayden, son of James Lewis Hayden, son of Lewis Hayden) -- What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us. "Ralph Waldo Emerson' -------------- Original message -------------- From: "shayden" <shayden@columbus.rr.com> > Kathie, > > I am Steve Hayden and I am the volunteer administrator of the Hayden DNA > Project. The DNA that is tested in the Project is a very small piece of the > Y-chromosome. Since only males have a Y-chromosome, it is passed from father > to son and is, hence, useful in tracing male lines. So, test candidates for > the Hayden Family DNA Project need to be males with the surname of Hayden or > one of the alternate spellings such Heydon, Hyden or Haden. The Project has > a web site at http://rhhandson.com/hayden_dna.html. There is also a link ant > Edward Hayden's excellent site at http://www.hayden.org/. > > It is great to see the burst of activity on this list. Tony Burgess > correctly identifies several reasons why it can be difficult to connect to > Hayden lines even with DNA results. There are just a lot of Hayden lines out > there! One of the main objectives of the DNA Project is to connect to our > English cousins. A fund has been established thanks to a Hayden researcher > to help finance testing of English Haydens. Now we just need some > volunteers! > > Those Haydens who are of the line of John of MA are fortunate to have a > rare, distinctive Y-chromosome pattern. So, it is relatively easy to see if > you are connected to that line using DNA data. The patterns in the other > lines are not so distinctive and, by and large, most lines appear to be of > Norman origin. George, who in an earlier post expressed his frustration at > any lack of connection, appears to be of Viking origin. As the Project > grows, the chance of George and other, to date, unconnected lines will > connect also increases. > > Steve Hayden > > -----Original Message----- > From: hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of k.prizzio@comcast.net > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 8:51 AM > To: hayden@rootsweb.com; hayden@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] Thomas de Heydon to Dr. Clement Hayden > > Greetings, > > Put me on that "list" of Hayden non-connections. > > I have been able to research my family back to Cherry Valley, NY. His name > was James Lewis Hayden and his birth has been recorded as 25 May 1749. His > father's name was Lewis. James married Christina Haes(?) in 1772 and they > had 11 children: George, Margaret, Elizabeth, Jacob, Catherine, James, > Alexander, Ann, William, Maria and Frederick. > > Also, please let me know how I can have my DNA tested. > > Thank you, > > Kathie > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message
Hi, I think I am going to install a database on my site strictly for all Hayden ancestors and include DNA information as well as notes and innput from all Hayden researchers. It will be like the database I have at www.edwardhayden.com/genealogy1 but restricted to Haydens, spouses and offspring. Since it is a database, it could be searched for linked or unlinked persons. If y0u could send your information in GEDCOM format, it would save me a lot of typing and help get it off to a good start. I plan to be clear about links that have been traditionally accepted, but are now in question. Notes and input from all the active researchers would be welcomed and added to the site. Conflicting views can both be presented and everyone can go to one place to help sort out their own trees. I know I have a number of dubious links in my own chart which I would like to tighten up. My personal family tree is through Maryland to Kentucky and eventually South Texas. But all branches will be included. I believe I can get it up and running later tonight. Thanks, Edward hayden@rootsweb.com list keeper www.hayden.org www.edwardhayden.com -----Original Message----- From: hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of VWhite0901@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:31 AM To: hayden@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] John Hayden 1630 sailed on the "Mary and John"fromEngland I very much agree with Don, as I am a direct descendant of Noah Hayden, Noah Gilpin Hayden , and those children listed under Noah Gilpin Hayden and his second wife are NOT correct at all. There is in fact some disagreement in which children of Noah Hayden and both his wives go with which wife?? But as Don stated, those are the children of Noah Haydens father William and Lydia.........Noah's siblings, not his children. This is the chart I have compiled for William Hayden's family: Descendants of William B. Hayden 1 William B. Hayden b: August 05, 1727 in Braintree, Norfolk Co.,MA. d: July 1823 in Fayette Co. Fayette,PA. .. +Lydia Kiersted [Casted] b: Abt. February 14, 1723/24 in Staten Island m: 1748 d: Abt. 1795 .. 2 Hosea Hayden .. 2 Lottimore Hayden d: March 1814 .. 2 Pamelia Hayden ...... +Unknown Ratcliffe .. 2 Percina Hayden ...... +Unknown Jackman .. 2 Webb Hayden .. 2 John Hayden b: October 26, 1749 in Morriston, Morris Co.,NJ d: July 24, 1836 in Haydentwon, Fayette Co.,PA. ...... +Charity Gard b: 1751 in Hanover Twp.,Morris Co.,NJ m: Abt. 1773 in Georges Twp.,Fayette Co.PA. d: December 25, 1797 in Georges Twp.,Fayette Co.PA. .. *2nd Wife of John Hayden: ...... +Mary Ann Snider b: September 26, 1773 in Georges Twp.,Fayette Co.PA. m: March 01, 1798 in Georges Twp.,Fayette Co.PA. d: October 13, 1863 in Monroe, Fayette Co.,PA. .. 2 Stephen Hayden b: 1756 in Morristown, Morris Co., N.J. d: 1836 ...... +Susanna Skidmore b: 1765 in N.J. m: May 19, 1779 in New York, N.Y. .. 2 Enoch Hayden b: March 27, 1755 in Morristown, N.J. d: July 16, 1843 in Near Palmyra MO., Marion Co. ...... +Mary Shobe b: in N.J. .. *2nd Wife of Enoch Hayden: ...... +Rebecca Whaley b: in N.J. m: 1785 in N.J. .. 2 Noah Hayden b: March 27, 1755 in Morristown, N.J. d: Bef. 1820 in Mercer Co.,KY ...... +Mary Elliott b: Bef. 1767 m: Bef. 1783 in Randolph Co.,VA d: Bef. 1788 in Mercer Co.,KY .. *2nd Wife of Noah Hayden: ...... +Elizabeth Giplin b: Bef. 1765 m: June 11, 1804 in Mercer Co.,KY d: May 11, 1834 in Versailles,Mercer Co.,KY .. 2 Charlotte Hayden b: January 30, 1765 .. 2 William Belemus Hayden b: March 15, 1766 d: June 11, 1834 ...... +Hannah Ramsey Father: John Ramsey Mother: Louisa Hull ........................original messages................................. he information given below seems to show the children of William Hayden, father of Noah, as being the children of Noah. We need to back up and ensure that this is an accurate translation from the book. If it is, the whole book is suspect as to its accuracy. William's children are well documented. Don Summers ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dashes1@aol.com> To: <hayden@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] John Hayden 1630 sailed on the "Mary and John" fromEngland > The following information is the last of the chart that was in the book > the > submitter was Ula Porter Hayden below: > Thanks for your email > Estelle Farris > > Descendants of Noah Hayden > 1 Noah Hayden b: March 27, 1755 d: Abt. 1825 > .. +Unknown wife of Noah Hayden d: Bef. 1788 > ........ 2 Nancy Hayden > ........ 2 Pamela Hayden > *2nd Wife of Noah Hayden: > .. +Elizabeth Gilpin d: 1836 > ........ 2 Hosea Hayden > ........ 2 Charlotte Hayden > ........ 2 Rebecca Hayden > ........ 2 Webb Hayden > ........ 2 Lot Hayden > ........ 2 Margaret Hayden > ........ 2 William Belemus Hayden b: March 15 d: January 11, 1834 > ............ +Hannah Ramsey > ................... 3 Hannah Ramsey Hayden > ....................... +Lilburn W. Lewis > ................... 3 John Ramsey Hayden b: July 25, 1797 d: August 31, > 1838 > ....................... +Scotia Warden > ............................. 4 Charles Hayden > ............................. 4 Messena Hayden > ............................. 4 Marcellus Montgomery Hayden > ............................. 4 William Warren Warden Hayden > ............................. 4 John Ramsey Hayden, Jr. > ................... 3 Malinda L. Hayden > ................... 3 Margaret Hayden > ................... 3 Mary Ann Hayden > ................... 3 Rebecca Hayden > ................... 3 Samuel Hayden > ................... 3 George Anson Hayden b: March 21, 1800 d: November > 14, > 1828 > ....................... +Adaline Beeler > ................... 3 Anaximander Belemus Hayden b: December 12, 1807 d: > December 16, 1891 > ....................... +Louisa Thompson d: September 20, 1892 > ............................. 4 George Anson Hayden II b: July 21, 1846 > d: > June 05, 1888 > ................................. +Alice Mott > ........................................ 5 Albert Belemus Hayden > ........................................ 5 Anaximander Montgomery Hayden > ........................................ 5 Clyde Chapman Hayden > ............................. *2nd Wife of George Anson Hayden II: > ................................. +Emma Humphries > ........................................ 5 Edith May Hayden > ........................................ 5 Bessie Raye Hayden > ................................. 5 Carlton Aubry Hayden > .................................... +Ula Porter > 2 Unknown children > ........................................ 5 Ivadelle Estelle Hayden > ........................................ 5 William Jennings Bryan Hayden > ........................................ 5 Basil Anson Hayden > N.J.Skinner White : vwhite0901@aol.com _My Family Tree Page_ (http://hometown.aol.com/vwhite0901/myhomepage/heritage.html) & _My Family and more_ (http://hometown.aol.com/vwhite0901/myhomepage/family.html) "Remember the days of old; consider the generations long past." 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Hi all, Further to my last message, I have a DNA I found while looking for the origins of de Heydon as Normans and possibly descended from William de Cardon [born about 1050] The modern Cardon DNA is R1b and in the first 10 numbers is identical to the Haydon DNA ref H005, and H004 is very close. At a quick glance H005 and H004 seem most likely to be descended from de Heydon, who must have been Norman by his position in society in the 1200's. A pity my DNA is no good, being I1a it seems likely that my male line came to England about 1400 years ago as Saxon invaders. Comments please, Regards Tony Hayden Burgess
Hi list; Is there anyone on this list researching or knowledgeable of Haydens from the Paris or Woodstock areas of Ontario. My wife's ancestors were related to George Hayden, (1825-1904), painter, of Paris, Ontario. His father believed to be George W. Hayden of Toronto. Bill -- Regards, Bill Martin, Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada. email bmartin@tbaytel.net http://my.tbaytel.net/bmartin/
Greetings, Put me on that "list" of Hayden non-connections. I have been able to research my family back to Cherry Valley, NY. His name was James Lewis Hayden and his birth has been recorded as 25 May 1749. His father's name was Lewis. James married Christina Haes(?) in 1772 and they had 11 children: George, Margaret, Elizabeth, Jacob, Catherine, James, Alexander, Ann, William, Maria and Frederick. Also, please let me know how I can have my DNA tested. Thank you, Kathie -- What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us. "Ralph Waldo Emerson' -------------- Original message -------------- From: "kinsearcher" <cshell@cfl.rr.com> > Hey all, > I can't find a connection to my Hayden's either. My Hayden's were from > Monroe County. I have John Hayden, b. Maryland abt 1784, married Nancy > "Ann" Unknown, born Virginia 1793. They moved to Monroe County, Ohio and > died there. Their daughter Annie Hayden, married Jacob Schell in Monroe > County. They are my 3rd gggrand-parents. Any help appreciated. > Thanks, > Carolyn > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Payne" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:27 PM > Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] Thomas de Heydon to Dr. Clement Hayden > > > > Linda, > > > > Do not feel too badly, with all the activity of the past three years I > > have found nobody here with info on my Haydens either! And they were from > > Maryland in the 18th/19th century! Happy hunting and I hope you > > eventually make your connection. > > > > John Payne > > Milford Connecticut > > > > Linda Hopkins wrote: > > I cant believe that wiht all that is going on on the list that no one has > > any info on my hayden. My g grandfather was Clifton Erwin Hayden. b 21 > > April 1889 in Springfield MA d. 16 Jan 1976 Clarinda Ia. He married Sarah > > Elizabeth Munsell 2 Jan 1915 in Sproingfiled MA at Park Baptist Church. > > His father was William Hayden and his mother was Frances Patterson. This > > is all that I have on this line and have been looking for many years for > > any more. I can find my g grandfather on the census but only after he was > > married and had my grandmother and her sister. They lived all their lives > > in Springfield MA until after my g grandmother died and he moved to Iowa > > to live with my grandparents until he passed away. > > Any info would be very helpful no matter how little it is. > > > > Linda Hopkins > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Don't pick lemons. > > See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message
Hi all, I have been watching these recent posts. As we have disproved the three Hayden "brothers", and cant find any likely cousins during the 1630's the DNA results are now giving major problems for some lines. Obviously one of them seems to have been a descendant of Thomas de Heydon, but are we looking at a man who travelled on the same ship, perhaps he had no family and "attached" himself to the real Haydon for various reasons? He then used the Haydon name when he got to America, as only one Haydon appears to be listed on the ship [I don't think there is a full list of names?] Irish Haydons had changed the spelling of there original name, for a number of reasons; and Irish DNA will be very different from the Norman; by a few thousand years. We also have the possibility of other Haydons changing their name, orphans, child of a Haydon wife but not a Haydon father. [It has happened] etc. etc. So a true Haydon of Devon DNA will not have changed much in this time frame. And not very much from a Norman. As far as I know, no one has yet studied to find the major DNA groups of say the Normans, ancient Irish [6,000 years ago out of Spain] etc. etc; because this sort of thing would be very useful. Regards Tony Hayden Burgess ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Payne" <johndpayne@yahoo.com> To: <hayden@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] Thomas de Heydon to Dr. Clement Hayden > George, > > It's amazing, with so much Hayden information availableto be able to slip > through the cracks is really something! It is remarkable that your Hayden > DNA doesn't match up at all. You must be from a thoroughly different > Hayden line completely. Hope you find your line! > > John > > partners@houseofhayden.com wrote: > John and Linda, > > Know just what and how you feel. I even did the Hayden DNA and was told > that > I don't match Hayden. I guess I started my own Hayden with just me. > > George Hayden > Belhaven NC > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of John Payne > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:27 PM > To: hayden@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] Thomas de Heydon to Dr. Clement Hayden > > Linda, > > Do not feel too badly, with all the activity of the past three years I > have found nobody here with info on my Haydens either! And they were from > Maryland in the 18th/19th century! Happy hunting and I hope you eventually > make your connection. > > John Payne > Milford Connecticut > > Linda Hopkins wrote: > I cant believe that wiht all that is going on on the list that no one has > any info on my hayden. My g grandfather was Clifton Erwin Hayden. b 21 > April > 1889 in Springfield MA d. 16 Jan 1976 Clarinda Ia. He married Sarah > Elizabeth Munsell 2 Jan 1915 in Sproingfiled MA at Park Baptist Church. > His > father was William Hayden and his mother was Frances Patterson. This is > all > that I have on this line and have been looking for many years for any > more. > I can find my g grandfather on the census but only after he was married > and > had my grandmother and her sister. They lived all their lives in > Springfield > MA until after my g grandmother died and he moved to Iowa to live with my > grandparents until he passed away. > Any info would be very helpful no matter how little it is. > > Linda Hopkins > > > > --------------------------------- > Don't pick lemons. > See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Kathie, I am Steve Hayden and I am the volunteer administrator of the Hayden DNA Project. The DNA that is tested in the Project is a very small piece of the Y-chromosome. Since only males have a Y-chromosome, it is passed from father to son and is, hence, useful in tracing male lines. So, test candidates for the Hayden Family DNA Project need to be males with the surname of Hayden or one of the alternate spellings such Heydon, Hyden or Haden. The Project has a web site at http://rhhandson.com/hayden_dna.html. There is also a link ant Edward Hayden's excellent site at http://www.hayden.org/. It is great to see the burst of activity on this list. Tony Burgess correctly identifies several reasons why it can be difficult to connect to Hayden lines even with DNA results. There are just a lot of Hayden lines out there! One of the main objectives of the DNA Project is to connect to our English cousins. A fund has been established thanks to a Hayden researcher to help finance testing of English Haydens. Now we just need some volunteers! Those Haydens who are of the line of John of MA are fortunate to have a rare, distinctive Y-chromosome pattern. So, it is relatively easy to see if you are connected to that line using DNA data. The patterns in the other lines are not so distinctive and, by and large, most lines appear to be of Norman origin. George, who in an earlier post expressed his frustration at any lack of connection, appears to be of Viking origin. As the Project grows, the chance of George and other, to date, unconnected lines will connect also increases. Steve Hayden -----Original Message----- From: hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of k.prizzio@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 8:51 AM To: hayden@rootsweb.com; hayden@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] Thomas de Heydon to Dr. Clement Hayden Greetings, Put me on that "list" of Hayden non-connections. I have been able to research my family back to Cherry Valley, NY. His name was James Lewis Hayden and his birth has been recorded as 25 May 1749. His father's name was Lewis. James married Christina Haes(?) in 1772 and they had 11 children: George, Margaret, Elizabeth, Jacob, Catherine, James, Alexander, Ann, William, Maria and Frederick. Also, please let me know how I can have my DNA tested. Thank you, Kathie
I very much agree with Don, as I am a direct descendant of Noah Hayden, Noah Gilpin Hayden , and those children listed under Noah Gilpin Hayden and his second wife are NOT correct at all. There is in fact some disagreement in which children of Noah Hayden and both his wives go with which wife?? But as Don stated, those are the children of Noah Haydens father William and Lydia.........Noah's siblings, not his children. This is the chart I have compiled for William Hayden's family: Descendants of William B. Hayden 1 William B. Hayden b: August 05, 1727 in Braintree, Norfolk Co.,MA. d: July 1823 in Fayette Co. Fayette,PA. .. +Lydia Kiersted [Casted] b: Abt. February 14, 1723/24 in Staten Island m: 1748 d: Abt. 1795 .. 2 Hosea Hayden .. 2 Lottimore Hayden d: March 1814 .. 2 Pamelia Hayden ...... +Unknown Ratcliffe .. 2 Percina Hayden ...... +Unknown Jackman .. 2 Webb Hayden .. 2 John Hayden b: October 26, 1749 in Morriston, Morris Co.,NJ d: July 24, 1836 in Haydentwon, Fayette Co.,PA. ...... +Charity Gard b: 1751 in Hanover Twp.,Morris Co.,NJ m: Abt. 1773 in Georges Twp.,Fayette Co.PA. d: December 25, 1797 in Georges Twp.,Fayette Co.PA. .. *2nd Wife of John Hayden: ...... +Mary Ann Snider b: September 26, 1773 in Georges Twp.,Fayette Co.PA. m: March 01, 1798 in Georges Twp.,Fayette Co.PA. d: October 13, 1863 in Monroe, Fayette Co.,PA. .. 2 Stephen Hayden b: 1756 in Morristown, Morris Co., N.J. d: 1836 ...... +Susanna Skidmore b: 1765 in N.J. m: May 19, 1779 in New York, N.Y. .. 2 Enoch Hayden b: March 27, 1755 in Morristown, N.J. d: July 16, 1843 in Near Palmyra MO., Marion Co. ...... +Mary Shobe b: in N.J. .. *2nd Wife of Enoch Hayden: ...... +Rebecca Whaley b: in N.J. m: 1785 in N.J. .. 2 Noah Hayden b: March 27, 1755 in Morristown, N.J. d: Bef. 1820 in Mercer Co.,KY ...... +Mary Elliott b: Bef. 1767 m: Bef. 1783 in Randolph Co.,VA d: Bef. 1788 in Mercer Co.,KY .. *2nd Wife of Noah Hayden: ...... +Elizabeth Giplin b: Bef. 1765 m: June 11, 1804 in Mercer Co.,KY d: May 11, 1834 in Versailles,Mercer Co.,KY .. 2 Charlotte Hayden b: January 30, 1765 .. 2 William Belemus Hayden b: March 15, 1766 d: June 11, 1834 ...... +Hannah Ramsey Father: John Ramsey Mother: Louisa Hull ........................original messages................................. he information given below seems to show the children of William Hayden, father of Noah, as being the children of Noah. We need to back up and ensure that this is an accurate translation from the book. If it is, the whole book is suspect as to its accuracy. William's children are well documented. Don Summers ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dashes1@aol.com> To: <hayden@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] John Hayden 1630 sailed on the "Mary and John" fromEngland > The following information is the last of the chart that was in the book > the > submitter was Ula Porter Hayden below: > Thanks for your email > Estelle Farris > > Descendants of Noah Hayden > 1 Noah Hayden b: March 27, 1755 d: Abt. 1825 > .. +Unknown wife of Noah Hayden d: Bef. 1788 > ........ 2 Nancy Hayden > ........ 2 Pamela Hayden > *2nd Wife of Noah Hayden: > .. +Elizabeth Gilpin d: 1836 > ........ 2 Hosea Hayden > ........ 2 Charlotte Hayden > ........ 2 Rebecca Hayden > ........ 2 Webb Hayden > ........ 2 Lot Hayden > ........ 2 Margaret Hayden > ........ 2 William Belemus Hayden b: March 15 d: January 11, 1834 > ............ +Hannah Ramsey > ................... 3 Hannah Ramsey Hayden > ....................... +Lilburn W. Lewis > ................... 3 John Ramsey Hayden b: July 25, 1797 d: August 31, > 1838 > ....................... +Scotia Warden > ............................. 4 Charles Hayden > ............................. 4 Messena Hayden > ............................. 4 Marcellus Montgomery Hayden > ............................. 4 William Warren Warden Hayden > ............................. 4 John Ramsey Hayden, Jr. > ................... 3 Malinda L. Hayden > ................... 3 Margaret Hayden > ................... 3 Mary Ann Hayden > ................... 3 Rebecca Hayden > ................... 3 Samuel Hayden > ................... 3 George Anson Hayden b: March 21, 1800 d: November > 14, > 1828 > ....................... +Adaline Beeler > ................... 3 Anaximander Belemus Hayden b: December 12, 1807 d: > December 16, 1891 > ....................... +Louisa Thompson d: September 20, 1892 > ............................. 4 George Anson Hayden II b: July 21, 1846 > d: > June 05, 1888 > ................................. +Alice Mott > ........................................ 5 Albert Belemus Hayden > ........................................ 5 Anaximander Montgomery Hayden > ........................................ 5 Clyde Chapman Hayden > ............................. *2nd Wife of George Anson Hayden II: > ................................. +Emma Humphries > ........................................ 5 Edith May Hayden > ........................................ 5 Bessie Raye Hayden > ................................. 5 Carlton Aubry Hayden > .................................... +Ula Porter > 2 Unknown children > ........................................ 5 Ivadelle Estelle Hayden > ........................................ 5 William Jennings Bryan Hayden > ........................................ 5 Basil Anson Hayden > N.J.Skinner White : vwhite0901@aol.com _My Family Tree Page_ (http://hometown.aol.com/vwhite0901/myhomepage/heritage.html) & _My Family and more_ (http://hometown.aol.com/vwhite0901/myhomepage/family.html) "Remember the days of old; consider the generations long past." 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Tony I know just what you mean. I have been, on and off looking for my family since 1977. Two or three years ago I found a cousin in Ohio that was doing look-ups and we have been looking every since. I know that Hayden's have to submit to the DNA to be connected, but with as many that has submitted I just can't believe I am not matching SOMEONE out there. On the Hayden DNA Project, I am the very last one that is ungrouped. AS far back as we can go for sure is with George Washington Hayden, born PA in 1821. He is my GG Grandfather. From him forward I can go right to me. But from him back, can not find his father. My Uncle that has been doing this for many years said that his father was Richard that married a Catharine Quickie in Bath VA. Around 1899. There are 3 George Washington Hayden's so we call them GW1, GW2,GW3. Gw3 was my father's father. As for GW1's brother's I think I know them but again can not prove it or those the father and mother is. Some say that GW1 was born in Ohio, but on GW2's death certif.. it says GW1 was born in PA. GW1 was married to a Selina also spelled Celina Mitchell. We did find were they are buried, in Ohio but nothing else. Maybe he slipped thought the cracks too. George -----Original Message----- From: hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Payne Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:19 PM To: hayden@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] Thomas de Heydon to Dr. Clement Hayden George, It's amazing, with so much Hayden information availableto be able to slip through the cracks is really something! It is remarkable that your Hayden DNA doesn't match up at all. You must be from a thoroughly different Hayden line completely. Hope you find your line! John partners@houseofhayden.com wrote: John and Linda, Know just what and how you feel. I even did the Hayden DNA and was told that I don't match Hayden. I guess I started my own Hayden with just me. George Hayden Belhaven NC -----Original Message----- From: hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Payne Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:27 PM To: hayden@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] Thomas de Heydon to Dr. Clement Hayden Linda, Do not feel too badly, with all the activity of the past three years I have found nobody here with info on my Haydens either! And they were from Maryland in the 18th/19th century! Happy hunting and I hope you eventually make your connection. John Payne Milford Connecticut Linda Hopkins wrote: I cant believe that wiht all that is going on on the list that no one has any info on my hayden. My g grandfather was Clifton Erwin Hayden. b 21 April 1889 in Springfield MA d. 16 Jan 1976 Clarinda Ia. He married Sarah Elizabeth Munsell 2 Jan 1915 in Sproingfiled MA at Park Baptist Church. His father was William Hayden and his mother was Frances Patterson. This is all that I have on this line and have been looking for many years for any more. I can find my g grandfather on the census but only after he was married and had my grandmother and her sister. They lived all their lives in Springfield MA until after my g grandmother died and he moved to Iowa to live with my grandparents until he passed away. Any info would be very helpful no matter how little it is. Linda Hopkins --------------------------------- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The information given below seems to show the children of William Hayden, father of Noah, as being the children of Noah. We need to back up and ensure that this is an accurate translation from the book. If it is, the whole book is suspect as to its accuracy. William's children are well documented. Don Summers ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dashes1@aol.com> To: <hayden@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] John Hayden 1630 sailed on the "Mary and John" fromEngland > The following information is the last of the chart that was in the book > the > submitter was Ula Porter Hayden below: > Thanks for your email > Estelle Farris > > Descendants of Noah Hayden > 1 Noah Hayden b: March 27, 1755 d: Abt. 1825 > .. +Unknown wife of Noah Hayden d: Bef. 1788 > ........ 2 Nancy Hayden > ........ 2 Pamela Hayden > *2nd Wife of Noah Hayden: > .. +Elizabeth Gilpin d: 1836 > ........ 2 Hosea Hayden > ........ 2 Charlotte Hayden > ........ 2 Rebecca Hayden > ........ 2 Webb Hayden > ........ 2 Lot Hayden > ........ 2 Margaret Hayden > ........ 2 William Belemus Hayden b: March 15 d: January 11, 1834 > ............ +Hannah Ramsey > ................... 3 Hannah Ramsey Hayden > ....................... +Lilburn W. Lewis > ................... 3 John Ramsey Hayden b: July 25, 1797 d: August 31, > 1838 > ....................... +Scotia Warden > ............................. 4 Charles Hayden > ............................. 4 Messena Hayden > ............................. 4 Marcellus Montgomery Hayden > ............................. 4 William Warren Warden Hayden > ............................. 4 John Ramsey Hayden, Jr. > ................... 3 Malinda L. Hayden > ................... 3 Margaret Hayden > ................... 3 Mary Ann Hayden > ................... 3 Rebecca Hayden > ................... 3 Samuel Hayden > ................... 3 George Anson Hayden b: March 21, 1800 d: November > 14, > 1828 > ....................... +Adaline Beeler > ................... 3 Anaximander Belemus Hayden b: December 12, 1807 d: > December 16, 1891 > ....................... +Louisa Thompson d: September 20, 1892 > ............................. 4 George Anson Hayden II b: July 21, 1846 > d: > June 05, 1888 > ................................. +Alice Mott > ........................................ 5 Albert Belemus Hayden > ........................................ 5 Anaximander Montgomery Hayden > ........................................ 5 Clyde Chapman Hayden > ............................. *2nd Wife of George Anson Hayden II: > ................................. +Emma Humphries > ........................................ 5 Edith May Hayden > ........................................ 5 Bessie Raye Hayden > ................................. 5 Carlton Aubry Hayden > .................................... +Ula Porter > 2 Unknown children > ........................................ 5 Ivadelle Estelle Hayden > ........................................ 5 William Jennings Bryan Hayden > ........................................ 5 Basil Anson Hayden > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
I have a George Hayden/Headen/Heydon line, Loudon Co., Virginia, Caswell Co. NC, Clark Co, KY. I've given up one finding the immigrant. There seems to have been three generations of George Hayden/ Headen in Virginia from a birth record of son George to George, St. Stephen's Parish, VA 1709, including a deed in Loudoun,1751, George Headen, Sr., Planter of Virginia to sons William and George. The son George was listed as George Headen, Sr. 1770s implying his father had died or possibly moved south when William did. Confusing, isn't it. The third George moved to Clark Co. KY 1801 and died there 1807. He married Jane in Virginia, thought to be Jane Morris. They were my 4th great grandparents. Their son James moved to Caswell Co, NC 1800. He died there 1840, and most of the family moved to Polk Co. Missouri.
The following chart is on my husbands line. I would like to ask you guys a couple of questions. Recently some one sent me some information saying that Jane Unknown wife of William Headen was actually Jane Little. I also got some information on the Robert Beavers family on which it said his wife was Jane Little. Can anyone tell me which is correct? Estelle Farris Descendants of William Headen I 1 William Headen I d: 1806 .. +Jane Unknown Headen ........ 2 William Headen II d: Bet. 1830 - 1839 ............ +Susannah Robertson d: Bef. 1839 ................... 3 Mary "Polly" Headen ....................... +Reuben Beavers b: 1783 ............................. 4 Sarah "Sally" Beavers b: 1809 ................................. +John C. Turnage d: Bet. 1848 - 1850 ........................................ 5 Algerine Turnage ............................................ +John Glasscock .................................................. 6 Sarah Glasscock b: February 24, 1854 d: October 19, 1944 ...................................................... +Azenor Barthelomew Simeon b: November 29, 1850 d: November 10, 1893 ............................................................. 7 Laura Simeon b: July 20, 1882 d: March 31, 1966 ................................................................. +Theodore Daniels b: Abt. 1875 d: Unknown ........................................................................ 8 Viola Helen Daniels b: January 23, 1902 d: August 28, 1967 ............................................................................ +Pearl O Jones b: January 29, 1897 d: August 13, 1952 .............................................................................. .... 9 Ray Jones b: September 13, 1921 d: December 31, 1958 .............................................................................. ........ +Doris Albin .............................................................................. .... 9 Leon Jones b: September 01, 1923 d: February 02, 1986 .............................................................................. ........ +Minnie Tate .............................................................................. .... 9 Floyd Jones b: 1925 d: 1925 .............................................................................. .... 9 Ophie Helen Jones b: February 18, 1928 d: July 08, 1983 .............................................................................. ........ +Billy Mc Morris .............................................................................. .... *2nd Husband of Ophie Helen Jones: .............................................................................. ........ +Willie James "Big Bill" Farris, Sr. b: April 23, 1924 d: April 24, 1989 .............................................................................. .... 9 Leroy Jones b: Abt. May 17, 1930 d: Abt. November 1987 .............................................................................. .... 9 Juanita Jones b: 1932 d: January 23, 1987 .............................................................................. .... 9 Ralph Murray Jones b: September 21, 1934 d: December 15, 1986 .............................................................................. ........ +Deana Sciber d: Abt. 1985 .............................................................................. .... 9 Eldridge Jones b: 1936 d: 1936 <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
John and Linda, Know just what and how you feel. I even did the Hayden DNA and was told that I don't match Hayden. I guess I started my own Hayden with just me. George Hayden Belhaven NC -----Original Message----- From: hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hayden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Payne Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:27 PM To: hayden@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAYDEN] Thomas de Heydon to Dr. Clement Hayden Linda, Do not feel too badly, with all the activity of the past three years I have found nobody here with info on my Haydens either! And they were from Maryland in the 18th/19th century! Happy hunting and I hope you eventually make your connection. John Payne Milford Connecticut Linda Hopkins <iowa_angel542000@yahoo.com> wrote: I cant believe that wiht all that is going on on the list that no one has any info on my hayden. My g grandfather was Clifton Erwin Hayden. b 21 April 1889 in Springfield MA d. 16 Jan 1976 Clarinda Ia. He married Sarah Elizabeth Munsell 2 Jan 1915 in Sproingfiled MA at Park Baptist Church. His father was William Hayden and his mother was Frances Patterson. This is all that I have on this line and have been looking for many years for any more. I can find my g grandfather on the census but only after he was married and had my grandmother and her sister. They lived all their lives in Springfield MA until after my g grandmother died and he moved to Iowa to live with my grandparents until he passed away. Any info would be very helpful no matter how little it is. Linda Hopkins --------------------------------- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAYDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message