Y-DNA is obviously useful in a surname project. Autosomal DNA (the test available through most testing companies) is also useful. If Hatcher descendants will upload their "raw data" to GEDmatch, and if this group will maintain a list of Hatcher descendants who have uploaded, and if family trees are available, much can be done. On 8/12/19, Bill Schultz <elbonian@live.com> wrote: > Folks: > > For whatever it's worth, I'm also involved with the Clay Family DNA project > (my direct ancestor was James Hatcher who married Sarah Clay) and what they > are doing is this: > > They actively recruited donations for DNA testing, getting several thousand > dollars in donations. Then, they've been buying Y-DNA 37 kits in bulk from > FTDNA. They have a man in England who places ads in genealogy society > magazines and so forth to locate Clay men who would like to have a free DNA > test in return for supplying a decent family tree. > > This process actually resulted in some success for me, personally. The > aforementioned Sarah Clay is the granddaughter of Percival Clay who was a > convict transportee from Yorkshire. I recruited a direct male descendant of > her brother to take a DNA test and the predicted haplotype (E-M25) is fairly > rare for England, although it did match a descendant of Sarah's uncle, so > I'm now fairly certain what I'm looking for in England. Unfortunately, the > best match so far is a gentleman from Warwickshire who has a family tree > back to the 1500s that doesn't show any relationship with Yorkshire. Also, > we have a third disconnected E-M35 family that shows up in New York state > sometime in the early 1800s and migrates to Washington County, PA. So, I now > have three tree leaves and no known connection. The hunt goes on. (There > are record of a Percival Clay in Yorkshire about a century before MY > Percival; we just need to find a descendant from THAT family who will take a > DNA test....) > > Anyway, that's how the Clay family is approaching the problem. If somebody > would assemble a decent-sized fund, and if Tony would be "our man in > England," then we might be able to do something similar..... > > == Bill

Steve: We would be happy to track GEDmatch account numbers for anybody who is in any of our trees at http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/index.php HOWEVER, we only track non-Hatcher surnames up and down one generation from the Hatcher spouse. Thus, while I'm on GEDmatch, I'm not in the Hatcher family tree (t being my 2nd-great grandmother who was born a Hatcher). Our Hatcher DNA project is over at Family Tree DNA, and we have a lot of folks there, but we can't take their data and upload it to GEDmatch without permission. And, I really don't care to start another "DNA project" at GEDmatch. I see it as a less-secure repository than any of the others. But I'll admit they currently have better tools. But they don't advertise, so it is kind-of a DNA geek site. I would expect that Family Tree DNA and/or Ancestry (where I've also tested) would eventually catch up on the tool front. Ancestry just recently released its "ThruLines" feature that matches DNA and family trees to create an otherwise impossible map of your relatives. I personally feel that is a LOT more useful than the great tools at GEDmatch. William Watson and I are still in the early stages of considering what we will do with an autosomal DNA project. We've been allowing people to join our Hatcher project, and we've looked at their DNA, but we don't really have a good idea of what to do about it. Stay tuned. Maybe next year...... == Bill ________________________________ From: hfga@googlegroups.com <hfga@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Steve Williams <stevewilliamsfamily@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 11:37 AM To: hatcher@rootsweb.com <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Cc: William J. Watson <wjw@alumni.rice.edu>; Donald L Hatcher <ncis2003@bellsouth.net>; Hatcher Families Genealogy Association <hfga@googlegroups.com> Subject: [hfga] Re: Early English Hatchers Y-DNA is obviously useful in a surname project. Autosomal DNA (the test available through most testing companies) is also useful. If Hatcher descendants will upload their "raw data" to GEDmatch, and if this group will maintain a list of Hatcher descendants who have uploaded, and if family trees are available, much can be done. On 8/12/19, Bill Schultz <elbonian@live.com> wrote: > Folks: > > For whatever it's worth, I'm also involved with the Clay Family DNA project > (my direct ancestor was James Hatcher who married Sarah Clay) ... [SNIP]

If I could figure out how to upload my Y-DNA data from my iPad to gedmatch or 23 & me I would but looks like you need pc or laptop? Is that right Steve? Tony If you don't wake up every morning Willing to die for what you believe in Then you don't believe in anything Sent from my iPad > On Aug 13, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Steve Williams <stevewilliamsfamily@gmail.com> wrote: > > Y-DNA is obviously useful in a surname project. Autosomal DNA (the > test available through most testing companies) is also useful. If > Hatcher descendants will upload their "raw data" to GEDmatch, and if > this group will maintain a list of Hatcher descendants who have > uploaded, and if family trees are available, much can be done. > > >> On 8/12/19, Bill Schultz <elbonian@live.com> wrote: >> Folks: >> >> For whatever it's worth, I'm also involved with the Clay Family DNA project >> (my direct ancestor was James Hatcher who married Sarah Clay) and what they >> are doing is this: >> >> They actively recruited donations for DNA testing, getting several thousand >> dollars in donations. Then, they've been buying Y-DNA 37 kits in bulk from >> FTDNA. They have a man in England who places ads in genealogy society >> magazines and so forth to locate Clay men who would like to have a free DNA >> test in return for supplying a decent family tree. >> >> This process actually resulted in some success for me, personally. The >> aforementioned Sarah Clay is the granddaughter of Percival Clay who was a >> convict transportee from Yorkshire. I recruited a direct male descendant of >> her brother to take a DNA test and the predicted haplotype (E-M25) is fairly >> rare for England, although it did match a descendant of Sarah's uncle, so >> I'm now fairly certain what I'm looking for in England. Unfortunately, the >> best match so far is a gentleman from Warwickshire who has a family tree >> back to the 1500s that doesn't show any relationship with Yorkshire. Also, >> we have a third disconnected E-M35 family that shows up in New York state >> sometime in the early 1800s and migrates to Washington County, PA. So, I now >> have three tree leaves and no known connection. The hunt goes on. (There >> are record of a Percival Clay in Yorkshire about a century before MY >> Percival; we just need to find a descendant from THAT family who will take a >> DNA test....) >> >> Anyway, that's how the Clay family is approaching the problem. If somebody >> would assemble a decent-sized fund, and if Tony would be "our man in >> England," then we might be able to do something similar..... >> >> == Bill > > _______________________________________________ > Welcome to the Hatcher Mail list. Please contact Rena Worthen doreatr@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/hatcher@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community