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    1. Re: [HATCHER] A question for our Quakers...........
    2. Ray Hardy Nelson
    3. Hatcher, Richard Date: Jan 29, 1689 Residence: Bucks Co., PA Land Record ID: 23166 Description: Neighbor Book-Page: 1-218 Property: 100 acres Remarks: William Hayhurst of Bucks Co., for £10 from Henry Hudleston of Bucks Co.. Lying by the land of James Dilworth..to land of Richard Hatcher, north westerly to land of Wm. Hayhurst. Ackn: 27/1/1689. ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <nelhatch@hills.net> To: <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] A question for our Quakers........... > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D > Greenwood > > Wow! You wouldn't believe how some of these names are intersecting over a > 100-yr period! > > Van Sants with Van Horns with Van Zutphens. Pennsy Bob's John H md Ann Van > Horn (parents unknown) 1773 in Philly. Wm Coates Hatcher md Beulah Sutvan > 1826 in Burlington, NJ. > > I'm agreeing the Hatchers weren't originally Quakers (perhaps Catholic?) > And in reading some early 1700s NJ history, it seems they had a very > bigoted anti-Catholic governor pre-1728 who made life most unpleasant. > Compelling reason to change one's religion? > > But because we have these stray Hatchers in NJ and Philly, it seems that > Wm must have had a brother (Joseph or someone else?) who was there in PA > before heading to NJ. Mary who md Stephen Sands still may be the key. Do > we have a Quaker marriage in the Loudoun, VA area for Mary Hatcher to a > Gibson (per Wm's will?). If so, was she Mary Hatcher or (Mrs) Mary Sands > (a widow)? BIG difference! > > The Quaker-Dorset online file is now back in good order - pheeewwww! > > I've just sent Ed his Sherlocking instructions for his trip tomorrow. Ray > has sent me 6 pages of info on Samuel Coates. Still working to organize > everything he sent the past 2 days. I'm mailing today a request to NJ for > copies of court cases, 1791 and 1817, between Sarah Hatcher-John Gibbs and > Rachel Hatcher-Wm Stokes. These are unknown names. > > And I must also run away from home for a while this afternoon :-( > > Keep those cards and letters coming! One of these days I'll catch up :-) > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1478 - Release Date: 6/2/2008 7:12 AM

    06/02/2008 09:13:54
    1. Re: [HATCHER] A question for our Quakers...........
    2. nelhatch
    3. HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Ray sent the following on Richard "Hatcher" Hatcher, Richard Date: Jan 29, 1689 Residence: Bucks Co., PA Land Record ID: 23166 Description: Neighbor Book-Page: 1-218 Property: 100 acres I have always believed this is really Richard Thatcher, the family we have so much confusion with except in our DNA. BUT! A caveat or two. There are also a few early records in both PA and VA for a Nicholas Hatcher. One (I believe) was a news item where NIck states his wife, Rachel, has left his bed, so to speak, and he would no longer be responsible for her. Nick is another Hatcher that Evelyn Avery couldn't figure out. The above rec for Richard is dated 1689. Now down in Charleston, SC, we first see the appearance of Richard Hatcher with a land grant dated 1699 - 10 yrs later. And Nick Hatcher appears in early SC juror lists (or something similar), dates need checking. No proven connection between Richard and Nick but they're both there, same time frame. Further, Richard of SC has sons, James, Thomas, John AND Joseph (all born 1700-1715). So....is it possible that the above PA record really IS for Richard HATCHER who before 1699 removed to SC? Is it possible we all have just been assuming this guy is Thatcher because there really WAS a Richard Thatcher in early PA, too. Same problem with Joseph Hatcher or Thatcher on the PA Tax list? The similarities in spelling is just killing us?? Nel

    06/02/2008 12:46:18