HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Shirley, I am still buried in data provided by our group and the documents rec'd from NJ yesterday. At this point, I'd ask that you hold off on more on the Rakestraws until I can catch up. As we progress, I suspect we will start pinpointing specific non-Hatcher individuals in an effort to tie them all together. But I've already seen many, many recognizable Quaker surnames all gathered in the same small area shown on the 1681 Penn plat map - Janney, Pancoast, Haines, etc. And while it seems obvious now that our Wm Hatcher was not born a Quaker, he and Nicholas were certainly surrounded by them. marrying into and traveling with........ Nel