HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Lorraine, Elisha of Calhoun is on the Unc file. I think his mother was Elizabeth Vickers but can't solidly prove it. The Vickers we're connected to were out of the JohnstonCo, NC area. Don't know which Wm you're referring to. I can tell you though that Edward of BurkeCo is NOT Ed of Pendleton. Nel