HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Paul, First, according to the interpretations I've heard, "walking contrary to discipline" means Wm was drunk, which certainly fits with his ongoing problems. There are many records referring to military activities of one sort or other but none referring to "walking." I also have Hinshaw's complete volumes but not Hiatt's work. But while Hiatt may have concentrated on certain meetings, in this case he and Hinshaw are translating the exact same page. I just find it disturbing that we have two interpretations of the same page that have wildly different meanings. How does one report that "Joseph" requested transfer while another reports that "William" requested transfer for his son? Another small problem, and only reflecting what I've found in dozens of records, is that, at age 17, Joseph is rather old to be apprenticed out (to learn a trade). Young boys are almost always 13-15 when apprenticed in the expectation they will have fully learned their trade by the time they are of an age to earn their own way. And while errors do occur, there was only a John Hatcher with records of RW service from PA. I've found no Joseph from any state with RW service. But all of this does not explain having a Joseph bn 1743, died 1808 in PA. If he was Wm's son, why was he not mentioned in the will? For that matter, how is it known how old Joseph in the MM records was? There's nothing there that gives his age so how is it known he's "about 17"? I'm also not understanding what you're saying here..... "My william was almost 70 years old at this time and I find it hard to believe he would be marching or doing other things attributed to "a William Hatcher" above." Are you saying you don't believe it was Wm, husband of Ann, who was disciplined for "violating chastity", drinking, abusing his children, etc? He was abt 53 when the Rachel Tanner incident occurred and 59 when caught drinking, fighting, etc. And his son is ID'd as Wm Jr on the same page. There could not have been two senior Wms there without some means of ID'ing them as different individuals. Still too many questions unanswered here :-( Nel