HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Well now....since Winnette has dropped a can of worms on our list, I might as well expand on the situation we have in not only TwiggsCo but adjoining BibbCo, GA. Wm of the 1830 census is only a small part of the overall problem that covers a time frame between 1820-1840 and may even spill into WilkinsonCo that also adjoins Twiggs on the other side. This Wm is not firmly ID'd at this time but it appears most likely he is Wm/Martha Thompson, believed to be son of Wm/Pris of ElbertCo. Here is a timeline for these counties....... 1820 - Wm/Pris (bro of Maj John) is in WilkinsonCo. 1820 - James/Whitehead, son of Wm/Pris, in the Wilkinson census living near an unknown William Hatcher. This Wm is living on land won by James/Tate, another son of Wm/Pris, in the 1805 lottery. How did it come into possession of this unk William? Wm/Pris had a son, Wm/Martha Thompson, of the same age but this census does not match the kids they apparently had. 1823 - Henry/Bethia, son of Maj John, dies in BibbCo. His estate sale is held at Vincent Tharp's home in Twiggs. Cecil used a number of records to arrive at the very acceptable conclusion that Henry was John's son but considering the presence of Tom/Martha in Twiggs and BibbCo must raise some nigglies. 1824 - Wm Jr purchases a slave in BibbCo. WHO IS WM SR who would be in BibbCo? 1825 - Tom/Martha, son of Tom/Wilmoth, registers for the 1827 lottery in TwiggsCo. 1825 - A record is found for Dempsey Hatcher, son of Tom/Martha, ID'ing him as a Lieutenant living in TwiggsCo and having served 1824-25 and 1828-29. 1826 - Dempsey attends the estate sale of John Davis in BibbCo along with Elizabeth Hatcher Tharp. (I now believe she is Dempsey's sister). In case you haven't noticed, there's a lot of back and forth movement and interactions between people in Bibb and TwiggsCo. 1826 - Tom/Martha dies in Twiggs. Martha is named administrator. 1830 - Wm/Martha Thompson appears in the Twiggs census with those 43 slaves. 1830 - Martha, widow of Tom, now appears living in BibbCo. Tom was a winner in the 1827 lottery and Hamilton Hatcher of LeeCo sold this land sometime in the 1840s. Did he receive it as an heir and son of Tom? Is he really a son of Tom or did he purchase it from one of Tom's sons? Who paid the taxes and who was living on this property for about 15 years before it was sold? 1830 - James/Whitehead, son of Wm/Pris, now living next to the unk William in Wilkinson. If this Wm is James' brother who md Martha Thompson, was he caught in both the Twiggs and Wilkinson census? But that still doesn't explain the problem with their kids in these censi. Wm has no wife in the 1830 Wilkinson but has slaves in both the 1820-30. If he was working as overseer in TwiggsCo in 1830 but owned property and slaves in Wilkinson, who was managing this property while he was in Twiggs? 1832 - John, son of Tom/Martha, applies for admin of Tom's estate implying mother, Martha, has died. 1834 - John murdered in Twiggs. Did he complete the admin of the estate before he died? (see what you started, Winnette? :-) 1840 - Letty Hatcher/Hacker is in the Twiggs census with several of the same neighbors as Wm had in 1830. She has NO slaves. Who is this Letty? I don't think the families of either Maj John, Wm/Pris or Tom/Martha are yet set in stone and I suspect there may be one or more errors with a few kids possibly attached to the wrong parents. And dat's da' way this boat floats.......... Nel

Nel, we can count on those John's & William's to always keep us spinning. I find it very difficult to follow all these time lines. I know some of the time people did not move, county lines did. All of it together requires a brain much younger than mine. That is why I appreciate every little bit of info shared by all. Thanks for all you do. Winnette -