List Members, I am still looking for the parentage of my 2 great grandmother Frances _?_ Hatcher b. c. 1842 d. bef. 1880 Edgefield County, South Carolina who was living with Alfred hatcher in 1850 and 1860. Below is a query I made yesterday to the Edgefield and Aikne County, South Carolina, and Richmond County, Georgia, e-mail lists. Vivian Cates, Alto, Texas 1-936-858-3801 http://www.inu.net/vcates I am in need of a random act of genealogical kindness from someone who subscribes to the AUGUSTA CHRONICLE and/or the AIKEN STANDARD online and/or has access to microfilm copies of the actual South Carolina Death Certificates. I am seeking death certificate information and obituary information on WILLIAM O. CARPENTER b. c. 1871 Edgefield County, South Carolina d. July 9, 1950 in Aiken County, South Carolina. South Carolina Death Certificate #018032, Aiken County, South Carolina, white male, age 80. I got this much online sometime ago from S. C. Vital Records Death Index. As so often happens in genealogy, this information finally "clicked" when I was sorting through some old online printouts yesterday as to who this might be. I had previously found him on the 1880 census with parents J.(John) M. and Frances Carpenter. More specifically I am looking for the MAIDEN name of Frances _?_ Carpenter, his presumed mother. On the census there is a stepson, indicating that Frances was previously married to _?_ Williams. I am trying to figure out if this John Carpenter was married to two different women named Frances and to identify the John and Frances Carpenter who received money from Hatcher Estates in Edgefield. Even more specifically, I am trying to identify the parentage of one of my 2-great grandmothers, Frances _?_ Hatcher b. c. 1842 who is listed in the household of Alfred Hatcher b. c. 1800 in Edgefield District in 1850 and 1860 censuses. An early 1870's Edgefield Equity suit over land from the estate of John Hatcher d. c. 1826 and his wife, Christian/a _?_, claims that Alfred Hatcher d. c. 1868 and had NO children. This Frances _?_ Hatcher m. James Whitlock, Jr. and she was deceased before 1880, buried in the Graniteville Cemetery. Her original surname might have been something similar to "Mc or MaC/K_?_. No spelling and even worse sound! They had a daughter Emma Whitlock b. 1865 who married Ed Carpenter. Ed and John M. Carpenter were brothers if I have everybody matched up correctly. John M. Carpenter was one of the defendants in the Booth Toney feud/shooting/trial on the Edgefield Courthouse Square c. 1878-1879. A John and Frances Carpenter received money from the estate of John Hatcher, Sr. John and Frances Carpenter are listed as heirs of John Hatcher, Jr. brother of Alfred Hatcher. Were they brother and sister or husband and wife and who were their parents? According to the will of John Hatcher, Sr., the land he left to his son, Alfred, was to revert back to the heirs of John, Jr. if Alfred had not children. The heirs of John, Jr. were suing Susan and Rice Swearingen. This is the same Carpenter family about whom information was published in the last two issues of THE QUILL, published by Old Edgefield District Gen. Soc. magazine. For more information on the family see those issues. William Carpenter and Whitfield Murrell, both white men, were convicted of murdering Preston Younce about June 1889 and convicted later that year, late November or early December. This item was somehow found by another researcher in a North Carolina newspaper issue of Dec 5, 1889. They were sentenced to hang, but apparently were not hung. I found William Carpenter serving time in prison in Columbia in 1910 and 1910 censuses. Someone else was kind enough to send me an article about his being pardoned by the governor of South Carolina sometimes between 1910 and 1915. Somehow I missed the date and newspaper name for that document. Need that date and newspaper name, please, presuming the AUGUSTA CHRONICLE or Aiken newspaper, sometime between 1910-1915. Someone sent me an obituary for an apparent second wife of W. O. Carpenter, Bunie, d.c. 1950. He apparently was previously married and had a daughter b. c. 1915 who married _?_ Chavous. I live on the outskirts of "nowhere." Cell phones don't work here! I have really appreciated the past help I have received from other list members especially with newspaper articles. I have been researching for 40 years; I have passed the help forward and backward many times. I have tried subscribing to online newspapers and had to give it up because our landline computer connections are oh so slow! Thank you for your assistance in this matter. Vivian Cates 1-936-858-3801 http://www.inu.net/vcates