HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood W W, We'll start with this msg: You stated "We know EdgefieldCo is the only place Tom/Wilmoth were known to have lived." First, there are a number of Peters creeks in SC per USGS. The one between the Broad and Tyger where Tom/Wilm lived was on the county line of Newberry and Union. It is located halfway between Whitmire and Shelton and a bit south. Don't get too concerned with Berkley. I discovered some years ago how confusing these "districts" could be. And it does not matter if Berkley ceased to exist a year before this grant. I've been told by the experts and discovered it myself that recording clerks would too often record these deeds 2-3-4 yrs later under the old district name and not the new. The key to location is the actual reference points referred to in the deeds. And it was my error to say Tom/Wilm lived in Edgefield. It was only Wilmoth and her 2 sons in 1790 Edgefield living near son, Tom Jr, on Turkey and Stevens creeks. These creeks are now in McCormick (formerly Edgefield) halfway between McCormick and Liberty Hill, close to the Savannah and directly across from LibertyCo, GA (Strom Thurmond Lake). "Or are you referring to the Little River on the GA side that is the boundary for Columbia County GA?" Yes. Looking at today's map, the Little River looks more like it's just part of Strom Thurmond Lake. So you have Tom Jr and Wilm across the river on Turkey creek and you have Col James and Henry/Vick living near the Little River with Wm/Pris just north in ElbertCo. I have no answers why Capt Tom is not in the official records. Nel

Another point of interest to evaluate! In going back over all my notes on Mj. John, Thomas & sons, I see something that I am not sure has ever been brought up? It may have but have read and looked at so much over the last week or so I may have forgotten? Anyway, so here goes: Reubin Hatcher signed and was a witness to a deed of gift Mj. John filed in Crawford County GA on 10th April 1835. Reubin Hatcher signed and was a witness to the execution of Mj. John's will on Tenth day of April 1835. (Wilkinson County GA) Notice the dates are the same? So this puts Reubin with Mj. John in 1835.... Odd this has not been noticed before? William W. Hatcher Sr. Milledgeville, Ga. 31061 Phone: 478-454-3468 God Bless America! -----Original Message----- From: hatcher-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hatcher-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of nelhatch Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 11:33 PM To: HATCHERLIST Subject: Re: [HATCHER] second try, guess map blocked everything? HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood W W, We'll start with this msg: You stated "We know EdgefieldCo is the only place Tom/Wilmoth were known to have lived." First, there are a number of Peters creeks in SC per USGS. The one between the Broad and Tyger where Tom/Wilm lived was on the county line of Newberry and Union. It is located halfway between Whitmire and Shelton and a bit south. Don't get too concerned with Berkley. I discovered some years ago how confusing these "districts" could be. And it does not matter if Berkley ceased to exist a year before this grant. I've been told by the experts and discovered it myself that recording clerks would too often record these deeds 2-3-4 yrs later under the old district name and not the new. The key to location is the actual reference points referred to in the deeds. And it was my error to say Tom/Wilm lived in Edgefield. It was only Wilmoth and her 2 sons in 1790 Edgefield living near son, Tom Jr, on Turkey and Stevens creeks. These creeks are now in McCormick (formerly Edgefield) halfway between McCormick and Liberty Hill, close to the Savannah and directly across from LibertyCo, GA (Strom Thurmond Lake). "Or are you referring to the Little River on the GA side that is the boundary for Columbia County GA?" Yes. Looking at today's map, the Little River looks more like it's just part of Strom Thurmond Lake. So you have Tom Jr and Wilm across the river on Turkey creek and you have Col James and Henry/Vick living near the Little River with Wm/Pris just north in ElbertCo. I have no answers why Capt Tom is not in the official records. Nel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.134 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1533 - Release Date: 7/3/2008 7:19 PM

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood "So this puts Reubin with Mj. John in 1835.... Odd this has not been noticed before?" This Reubin was John's son simply being a witness to these 2 docs, either written or recorded on the same day. These docs were drawn up just a month or two before John's death. Nel