HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood #$%#$%^T^*^&(!#%^#$%#^&( Now that I've said THAT, I've just discovered a serious MESS and, once again, it involves those no good, rotten, miserable Henrys and Archibalds!!!! The first problem I found is that Caleb Henry/Florence Hurt (of BedfordCo) is NOT the son of Jeremiah/Elizabeth Jeter. Jeremiah's will (1816) ID'd NO Caleb (born c1816). In the 1820 Jere's widow showed only the 7 kids listed in the will. NO Caleb. When Caleb married as a minor, his guardian was George Hawkins who md Nancy Hatcher. Nancy is on our file as dau of Jeremiah. BUT when Nancy md Hawkins, her parents were listed as ARCHIBALD and Elizabeth Hatcher. So in looking at the 1820 Bedford census, I find Archibald Hatcher with 2 males 0-10, 1F 10-16. Sure enough looks like Caleb, Nancy and another son. BUT! Problem #2. This Archie is supposed to be he who md Elizabeth Dibrell. But their 1st child was born 1819 and Archie/Dibrell bn 1789 did not have a dau (Nancy) born 1804. And one source says that all of Archie/Dibrell's kids were born in that miserable burnt county of Buckingham! So what the #$^%^&^(* are they doing in Bedford? They WEREN'T! They couldn't have been. The Archie and Liz in 1820 Bedford have to be the parents of Nancy, Caleb and at least 1 more son. Now we go back to check out Buckingham to find Liz Dibrell's father, Anthony, and sure enough - there he is in the 1810. Now it is normal for the bride to marry in her home locale so I'm looking for the Hatchers in 1810 Buckingham and, OH LORDY, I find HENRY Hatcher just 3 doors from Anthony Dibrell and Henry has 2 sons 16-26, 1 son 0-10, 2 daus 0-10. And in 1810 Archie would be 21. Fits perfectly!!!! BUT! Problem #3. This Henry is supposed to be Henry who md Sophia Hatcher. dau of Julius/Nancy Hill of BEDFORD. But looking at his 1810 Buckingham census and comparing it to other records, his children's ages don't match the census AND it's recorded on his page without the 2 males 16-26. The 1810 Buckingham census for Henry is NOT the Henry who md Sophia. Buckingham Henry, age 26-45, is not a young Henry but an older Henry with 2 adult sons, 1 of whom has to be Archie who md Liz Dibrell. Straightening out Buckingham Henry, who BTW does land transactions with Josiah Hatcher, may help straighten out our DNA mess.....maybe! So I am going to do some major readjusting to straighten everyone out and then see what the landscape looks like. Remember that when I switch people around, I drag all the descendants with me, including DNA testers. It will be interesting to see if that happens and how it might reflect on our results. Two steps back, one step forward............! Nel