Hello Hatcher friends, Recently I came across a new website called www.alabamapioneers.com and signed up. From all accounts it appears to be free but they can accept paypal donations if you choose. Anyone tried out this site and have any feedback on it??? Did we have Hatchers in AL when it joined statehood in 1819? My Hatchers were from Virginia and went to Kentucky after that. Secondly, has anyone had experience with contacting the National Archives for the land patents case file for an ancestor? I have a family member who was granted 2 land patents in the 1830s in Dallas county, AL. He had 5 more in the later 1830s. He had at least 6 or 7 in total and they are $40 each. UGH. Seems expensive to me not knowing what I might/could get. He is my brick wall and the land patent is joint with another person whose name is a stranger to me. Will I get anything more than a copy of the land certificate which I can get for free online. Is there some other cost effective way to get copies of the case files? Anyone have experience with this kind of research? I understand I can go to my local Chicago site of the National Archives, but is it $40 there too? Any direction is appreciated, Sue Dixey Aurora, IL sodixey@hotmail.com

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Sue, We had plenty of AL Hatchers but nary a one on this site. It appears to be a very new site with info apparently limited at this time to those families the webmaster has researched. How far they take it in the future remains to be seen. Nel

Sue and Hatcher-List members, John referred Sue's inquiry to me so I went digging in my collection of research material. I have requested land patents (4) from the Nat'l Archvies on my ancestors who secured land in 1850's. Locally, at our county land office, I could get copies of the land sales just like any other purchases. What you get from the Archives is a little more interesting. e.g. The copy of the receipt for cash of $30 representing 40 acres at $.75 per acre. "AFFIDAVIT FOR LAND ENTERED FOR THE USE OF AN ADJOINING FARM" -- The provision under which the land was obtained, in this example, was "An act to graduate and reduce the price of the public lands to actual settlers and cultivators," approved August 4, 1854. It states what improvements Henry made to the land adjoining. Henry's first patent was April 4 1859 under the same provisions but handwritten statements show "that he is at this time in the occupancy of said adjoining farm and has been residing theron since the 10th day of December 1856; that he has a log House on said adjoining farm 18 by 24 feet square, one story high, Rush roof, two rooms, two doors, one window, & furnished with a Stove, & has 13 acres cleared & fenced, & has raised a crop on six acres of the same......". Friedrich also got two patents under the "graduation" provisions rather than based on his civil war. He too paid cash. So, you can see that you might pick up some extra tidbits. Online, from the BLM website, you can secure necessary information and Form 84, Land Entry records. I completed the Form 84, and sent it via surface mail with a check but there is a place for doing it via credit card also. It will be faster via credit as they do not have to wait for your personal check to clear. When I did them, the cost was $17.75 each. The info for fill-ins for Form 84 are Name, State, Date of Entry, Section number, township number, Range number, Serial patient number, Patent final certificate number, and land office. I also spent an extra $2.00 per patent and got nice certificates -- signed by Abraham Lincoln or James Buchanan! -- on parchment paper with the government raised seal. I did these for my display as part of my 150th anniversary (immigration) celebration party in 2004. I know the charges by the Archives were to go up, but I have not checked lately. I do know that I paid $40 for four (4) civil war pension files also. Those too were interesting and gave an insite into lives of and character of the men. Some of them gave me dates and names that helped. If you have questions, just let me know. Darleen Chipman ----- Original Message ----- From: " Sue Dixey" <sodixey@hotmail.com> To: <HATCHER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:08 AM Subject: [HATCHER] Land patents in 1830s Alabama and new Alabama website > Hello Hatcher friends, > > Recently I came across a new website called www.alabamapioneers.com and > signed up. From all accounts it appears to be free but they can accept > paypal donations if you choose. Anyone tried out this site and have any > feedback on it??? Did we have Hatchers in AL when it joined statehood in > 1819? My Hatchers were from Virginia and went to Kentucky after that. > > Secondly, has anyone had experience with contacting the National Archives > for the land patents case file for an ancestor? I have a family member who > was granted 2 land patents in the 1830s in Dallas county, AL. He had 5 > more in the later 1830s. He had at least 6 or 7 in total and they are $40 > each. UGH. Seems expensive to me not knowing what I might/could get. He > is my brick wall and the land patent is joint with another person whose > name is a stranger to me. Will I get anything more than a copy of the land > certificate which I can get for free online. > > Is there some other cost effective way to get copies of the case files? > Anyone have experience with this kind of research? I understand I can go > to my local Chicago site of the National Archives, but is it $40 there > too? > > Any direction is appreciated, > Sue Dixey > Aurora, IL > sodixey@hotmail.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Do you have a list of who got land in Benton Co. Ala. Phillip ----- Original Message ----- From: <johnchipman@sbcglobal.net> To: <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Land patents in 1830s Alabama and new Alabama website > Sue and Hatcher-List members, > > John referred Sue's inquiry to me so I went digging in my collection of > research material. I have requested land patents (4) from the Nat'l > Archvies on my ancestors who secured land in 1850's. > > Locally, at our county land office, I could get copies of the land sales > just like any other purchases. What you get from the Archives is a little > more interesting. e.g. The copy of the receipt for cash of $30 > representing 40 acres at $.75 per acre. "AFFIDAVIT FOR LAND ENTERED FOR > THE USE OF AN ADJOINING FARM" -- The provision under which the land was > obtained, in this example, was "An act to graduate and reduce the price of > the public lands to actual settlers and cultivators," approved August 4, > 1854. It states what improvements Henry made to the land adjoining. > > Henry's first patent was April 4 1859 under the same provisions but > handwritten statements show "that he is at this time in the occupancy of > said adjoining farm and has been residing theron since the 10th day of > December 1856; that he has a log House on said adjoining farm 18 by 24 feet > square, one story high, Rush roof, two rooms, two doors, one window, & > furnished with a Stove, & has 13 acres cleared & fenced, & has raised a crop > on six acres of the same......". > > Friedrich also got two patents under the "graduation" provisions rather than > based on his civil war. He too paid cash. > > So, you can see that you might pick up some extra tidbits. > > Online, from the BLM website, you can secure necessary information and Form > 84, Land Entry records. I completed the Form 84, and sent it via surface > mail with a check but there is a place for doing it via credit card also. > It will be faster via credit as they do not have to wait for your personal > check to clear. > > When I did them, the cost was $17.75 each. The info for fill-ins for Form > 84 are Name, State, Date of Entry, Section number, township number, Range > number, Serial patient number, Patent final certificate number, and land > office. > > I also spent an extra $2.00 per patent and got nice certificates -- signed > by Abraham Lincoln or James Buchanan! -- on parchment paper with the > government raised seal. I did these for my display as part of my 150th > anniversary (immigration) celebration party in 2004. > > I know the charges by the Archives were to go up, but I have not checked > lately. I do know that I paid $40 for four (4) civil war pension files > also. Those too were interesting and gave an insite into lives of and > character of the men. Some of them gave me dates and names that helped. > > If you have questions, just let me know. > > Darleen Chipman > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " Sue Dixey" <sodixey@hotmail.com> > To: <HATCHER@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:08 AM > Subject: [HATCHER] Land patents in 1830s Alabama and new Alabama website > > > > Hello Hatcher friends, > > > > Recently I came across a new website called www.alabamapioneers.com and > > signed up. From all accounts it appears to be free but they can accept > > paypal donations if you choose. Anyone tried out this site and have any > > feedback on it??? Did we have Hatchers in AL when it joined statehood in > > 1819? My Hatchers were from Virginia and went to Kentucky after that. > > > > Secondly, has anyone had experience with contacting the National Archives > > for the land patents case file for an ancestor? I have a family member who > > was granted 2 land patents in the 1830s in Dallas county, AL. He had 5 > > more in the later 1830s. He had at least 6 or 7 in total and they are $40 > > each. UGH. Seems expensive to me not knowing what I might/could get. He > > is my brick wall and the land patent is joint with another person whose > > name is a stranger to me. Will I get anything more than a copy of the land > > certificate which I can get for free online. > > > > Is there some other cost effective way to get copies of the case files? > > Anyone have experience with this kind of research? I understand I can go > > to my local Chicago site of the National Archives, but is it $40 there > > too? > > > > Any direction is appreciated, > > Sue Dixey > > Aurora, IL > > sodixey@hotmail.com > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Phillip, The website is accessed: www.glorecords.blm.gov/ In dark green is: Search Land Patents I just did a basic searh for AL and last name HATCHER and came up with about 75. None for Benton County but for Sue's Dallas County there were a bunch. You might want to check out the possible location of the land office (which is listed) and think along the changing county lines. A more indepth search can be done and it will show all the numbers needed. You can now view the images online and even download them. If you want a certified copy, you can put it in your "shopping cart". I did my SPIEGELBERG for Wisconsin and came up with the four (4). Only the certificates are shown. The statements I had indicated showing what improvements Henry made are not viewable. All the instructions for securing the whole file are on the website. An E-mail address to order the Form 84 is there but I didn't see the current costs. Good luck, Darleen Chipman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Lawson" <plawson@wingnet.net> To: <johnchipman@sbcglobal.net>; <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Land patents in 1830s Alabama and new Alabama website > Hi, > Do you have a list of who got land in Benton Co. Ala. Phillip > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <johnchipman@sbcglobal.net> > To: <hatcher@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 5:21 PM > Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Land patents in 1830s Alabama and new Alabama > website > > >> Sue and Hatcher-List members, >> >> John referred Sue's inquiry to me so I went digging in my collection of >> research material. I have requested land patents (4) from the Nat'l >> Archvies on my ancestors who secured land in 1850's. >> >> Locally, at our county land office, I could get copies of the land sales >> just like any other purchases. What you get from the Archives is a >> little >> more interesting. e.g. The copy of the receipt for cash of $30 >> representing 40 acres at $.75 per acre. "AFFIDAVIT FOR LAND ENTERED FOR >> THE USE OF AN ADJOINING FARM" -- The provision under which the land was >> obtained, in this example, was "An act to graduate and reduce the price >> of >> the public lands to actual settlers and cultivators," approved August 4, >> 1854. It states what improvements Henry made to the land adjoining. >> >> Henry's first patent was April 4 1859 under the same provisions but >> handwritten statements show "that he is at this time in the occupancy of >> said adjoining farm and has been residing theron since the 10th day of >> December 1856; that he has a log House on said adjoining farm 18 by 24 > feet >> square, one story high, Rush roof, two rooms, two doors, one window, & >> furnished with a Stove, & has 13 acres cleared & fenced, & has raised a > crop >> on six acres of the same......". >> >> Friedrich also got two patents under the "graduation" provisions rather > than >> based on his civil war. He too paid cash. >> >> So, you can see that you might pick up some extra tidbits. >> >> Online, from the BLM website, you can secure necessary information and > Form >> 84, Land Entry records. I completed the Form 84, and sent it via surface >> mail with a check but there is a place for doing it via credit card also. >> It will be faster via credit as they do not have to wait for your >> personal >> check to clear. >> >> When I did them, the cost was $17.75 each. The info for fill-ins for >> Form >> 84 are Name, State, Date of Entry, Section number, township number, Range >> number, Serial patient number, Patent final certificate number, and land >> office. >> >> I also spent an extra $2.00 per patent and got nice certificates -- >> signed >> by Abraham Lincoln or James Buchanan! -- on parchment paper with the >> government raised seal. I did these for my display as part of my 150th >> anniversary (immigration) celebration party in 2004. >> >> I know the charges by the Archives were to go up, but I have not checked >> lately. I do know that I paid $40 for four (4) civil war pension files >> also. Those too were interesting and gave an insite into lives of and >> character of the men. Some of them gave me dates and names that helped. >> >> If you have questions, just let me know. >> >> Darleen Chipman >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: " Sue Dixey" <sodixey@hotmail.com> >> To: <HATCHER@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:08 AM >> Subject: [HATCHER] Land patents in 1830s Alabama and new Alabama website >> >> >> > Hello Hatcher friends, >> > >> > Recently I came across a new website called www.alabamapioneers.com and >> > signed up. From all accounts it appears to be free but they can accept >> > paypal donations if you choose. Anyone tried out this site and have >> > any >> > feedback on it??? Did we have Hatchers in AL when it joined statehood >> > in >> > 1819? My Hatchers were from Virginia and went to Kentucky after that. >> > >> > Secondly, has anyone had experience with contacting the National > Archives >> > for the land patents case file for an ancestor? I have a family member > who >> > was granted 2 land patents in the 1830s in Dallas county, AL. He had 5 >> > more in the later 1830s. He had at least 6 or 7 in total and they are > $40 >> > each. UGH. Seems expensive to me not knowing what I might/could get. >> > He >> > is my brick wall and the land patent is joint with another person whose >> > name is a stranger to me. Will I get anything more than a copy of the > land >> > certificate which I can get for free online. >> > >> > Is there some other cost effective way to get copies of the case files? >> > Anyone have experience with this kind of research? I understand I can >> > go >> > to my local Chicago site of the National Archives, but is it $40 there >> > too? >> > >> > Any direction is appreciated, >> > Sue Dixey >> > Aurora, IL >> > sodixey@hotmail.com >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

Phillip, I checked on this site and did not find any Hatchers for Benton/Calhoun Co., Al. Winnette http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch