HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Winnette, While I said "many months", it could have been as long as 1-3 years ago. It may be that fag simply didn't have all the bugs worked out or a mechanism in place to do back then what they can do today. You need only look at where we are today compared to 2 years ago. But I'm wishing you a 100 pounds of luck getting pics from the DallasCo Hatcher cem based on its location and the description Ala Bob gave a few years ago. I am guessing it will take far more effort than the hike Don had to take thru a soybean field. Overgrown is probably an understatement. Nel