Nel: Oh, what a ton of work you have done. Many, many years ago you helped me straighten my HATCHER line. As I have it now, I am descended from Edward Sr (c1633-c1711) and Mary WARD HATCHER, this Edward Sr was the son of William Immigrant, and a brother to Henry/Lound. Correct ?? Next in my line is Edward Jr (c1660-?) who married Mary JAMESON. Correct?? Edward Jr's daughter, Martha (1686-?) married Thomas COTTRELL, 25 Mar 1709, in New Kent Co. That's as far back as I have definitive, provable information. I'm just wondering - with all the new "digging" you have done, if there is new information about the above people I should know about? Keep digging wider and deeper! Charlie Weaver, Winston-Salem, NC Life is like a toilet paper roll. The closer to the end you get, the faster it goes.