Hello Hatcher friends, I apologize in advance for my non Hatcher research question? My Hatcher family is so well documented here I have little to research on that line thankfully. So many of you are experts at places to look and research, was wondering if I might reach out, again? I am at a brick wall with researching this family every way I can. I am researching a George Perkins ( I don't have a middle name for him) who was born about 1780 and lived until some time after the 1850 census but is not found in 1860 anywhere. I know nothing to speak of his early years, the full name of his wife or even where they married, she is just named "Elizabeth". It is possible he is the George Perkins listed in RichmondCo, NC in 1810 census. The family info fits, he has a son born about 1810 in NC and he and wife are of the right age. However, my first confirmed finding of him is in 1830 DallasCo, AL. I believe there is no 1820 census for AL either it wasn't a state or it didn't survive. Then in 1840 he is in MobileCo, as is in 1850. He has some land grants in Sumpter Co, and Mobile, both in that lower AL area........ Looks like he was double counted in that census because he is also enumerated in Union Parish, LA in 1850 ( census was taken in Sept. where as the Mobile one in July). In the Mobile census he is listed with daughter Rebecca Perkins Turner and her family. In Louisiana, George and Elizabeth are listed next to eldest son John Wesley and wife Tabitha Red( not sure of the spelling). This is a family with mostly daughters ( 5, Nancy, Mary, Rebecca, Keziah?) and 2 sons, William and John Wesley, which might explain my difficulties in finding conclusive info, not enough men who married and had children. Plus this family was so on the move. They didn't stay put for long. Rebecca was born in 1824 in Summerfield/Summerville ( not sure) which might be in the Mobile area. In the Mobile census he lists being born in GA ( Georgia) but his birth was prior to statehood, so I assume the census wanted to know what state was his place of birth at the time of the census, meaning 1850. So I guess my questions would be, where would be a logical place for me to research his birth family? If in 1850 it was Georgia, might it have been where in 1780? I have been unable to connect him to the right birth family. I find no Perkins with a MISSING or unaccounted George. Its as tho he is an orphan and very unconnected. Also, he is of the right age where he could have served in the war of 1812, what states should I been looking for him to have served under??? My research in the south is pretty green. Other than Mobile, Dallas and Sumpter County, I am a novice. Rebecca, hubby and kids headed for Minneapolis after the civil war, sometime in 1866. But all her siblings I can trace stayed south, moved on to LA, and in 1860 and beyond into TX. Anyone else have such a mixed up family and so little paper trail, or am I the only blessed one?? Also, if someone has any website that might be helpful to direct these NON Hatcher questions I am all ears. I don't want to keep bending everyone's ears here. George Perkins's GGG grandson married a Hatcher is where the Hatcher connection is. You may contact me off list at [email protected] seeing as I get the digest and have to wait a day to see any replies. Thanks so much. Sue Dixey ( grandma was a Hatcher)