HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Pheeewwww! I've just finished the Riverside Cemetery project. I've added all the obits and just finished adding the tombstone pics. I've not tried to find any of the married female Hatchers who I'm quite sure are buried there, too. These are the GA Hatchers out of Crawford/Bibb Cos. If you go to What's New on the home page and then do an edit/find for Headstones, you will be able to access all 40+ I am also checking on a Sarah Francis Hatcher, no obit, no tombstone pic, no lot #, no nada except for her name. But she must be buried there if they have her name, so am trying to find out if they have any other scrap of info on her. Nel

Nel, Another source for my Frank Hatcher's service in the Civil War...also another documentation (admittedly a secondary source) of his birth in 1830 as he is listed as 34 years in 1864. I submitted this as a suggestion on Frank's page on rootsweb but after I did a page popped up with just one word on it....sorry!, yes with the exclamation mark. Interesting. So, I'm not sure if you will receive the suggestion or not so I am also posting it here. Thanks, Martha Hatcher Welling The information below was derived from: Copyright © 2008 by Alexander Street Press, LLC American Civil War Research Database™. Copyright 1997-2008 Historical Data Systems, Inc. _http://asp6new.alexanderstreet.com/cwdb/cwdb.object.details.aspx?handle=perso n&id=101182902_ (http://asp6new.alexanderstreet.com/cwdb/cwdb.object.details.aspx?handle=person&id=101182902) Frank Hatcher (Union) Enlistment: - 34 years of age at time of enlistment - Enlisted on Jun 26 1864 as Private Mustering information: - Drafted into G Company, 3rd Infantry (Minnesota) on Jun 26 1864 - Mustered out from 3rd Infantry (Minnesota) on Sep 2 1865 at Devall's Bluff, AR Sources for the above information: - Minnesota in the Civil and Indian Wars 1861-65, (1890) **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

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This was posted on another list............interesting reading if nothing else. Doing a simple search I got 56 hits on Hatcher. Mentions Welt Hatcher, Wm. H. and others. Through April 30th, the following website is offering access to its Civil War database - http://alexanderstreet.com/resources/civilwar.access.htm Nancy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Toney, Yes Abraham Burton was the father-in-law of my John Garrott (md Susanna Burton). They both moved from Henrico to Prince George County together.JW Garrett <jwgarrett@webtv.net>> From: TJOregon@hotmail.com> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:53:05 -0700> Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Now looking for help............> > James> > You might check Parish records of Westover Parish for your Garret Families as some of the Lands owned by three Lands Owners that interes my research in 1640 era Matthew Boyce, William Byrd and his Kinsman Thomas Stegg fall into Chesterfield CO. Va. when it is formed. > > Capt. Edlows whose lands were beside Boyces are found in St. Peter Register in 1690 era this is where we fist find Michal Johnson and John Jones our Johnson DNA Lines. > > I love to document where our Joint families of William Hatcher where at on LANDS in Virginia and NC, as I believe OUR JOINT FAMILES moved together when they moved. Right now we have info on the Thomas Shippey families.> > I Mentioned an Abraham Burton below isthis your Abraham Burton Reason I do not have a Deep Creek files started for Amelia County as of yet on our Joint Familes. I do have an Amelia Co file going Going into Deep Creek in AMelia Co. will follow with 2nd post.> > Tony> ----- Original Message ----- > From: james garrett<mailto:jwgarrett@webtv.net> > To: hatcher@rootsweb.com<mailto:hatcher@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:47 AM> Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Now looking for help............> > > > Tony,> Thanks for the response> > Yes, my John Garrott died in Amelia co in May 1744.> I am familiar with the John garrett of Upper Norfolk. > DNA testing shows that my John Garrott is NOT connected with John Garrott of Upper Norfolk.> > I do have some additional info on the John Garrett of Upper Norfolk if interested.> > I have found earlier Garretts in Charles city & Henrico who are likely connected to my John of Henrico & Amelia.> But have only a few deed abstracts available to go on for any Garrott/Garrett families.> Most likely John Garrett met Susannah Burton around Old Town, south of Swift Creek, north of Appomatox in abt 1617/18.> Trying to locate any deed abstracts for any Garrett families in that area.> > Thanks again!> Jim> JW Garrett <jwgarrett@webtv.net<mailto:jwgarrett@webtv.net>>> From: TJOregon@hotmail.com<mailto:TJOregon@hotmail.com>> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com<mailto:hatcher@rootsweb.com>> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:40:53 -0700> Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Now looking for help............> > Yes> > The Garrot, Garret or Garruent Names is one of our Mixed Families: hard to Explain> >> > This name is associated with Doodes Minor and wife Mary Guerant Johnson whose children will Mary into several families: Peter De Montague, into familes of LTC Richard Cocke of Henrico Co> > > > Did your John Garrot die in Amelia CO Va abt May 1744 or before reason Abrham Burton's will is found in Amelia County: See below for land explanation> > > > A Garret Johnson (Huguenants) lived on Chickahominy River by Chickamony Swamp were we find the Watson Families.> > > > This is in the Area of the Families of Nicholas Robertson (Great Grandfather of General James Randolph Robertson (Gower- Hatcher lines) This Robinson-Robertson Families will be near Swift Creek in the family lines coming off Christopher Robertson-Robinson. But OUR Families settled on Rivers and Creeks that went thru several Counties. Christopher Robinson and Gowere lands will go into Prince George Co when it forms.> > > > > in 1712 lands South of the Appottomax River went into Prince George Co. Hatchers Run was one of them were we find the Christopher Robertson Families and the Gower Families.> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> > Neighbors on Old Town Creek> > 27 October 1671 Description: Grantee(s): Bevill, Essex and Bevill, Anne, his wife. 600 acres on the North side of Appamattox River beginning near the mouth of the commonly called the Old Town Creek.> > > > 20 October 1691 JOHN WILSON Sr. Location: Henrico County. Description: 148 acres in the parish of Bristol and on the Old Town Creek. Source: Land Office Patents No. 8, 1689-1695, p. 171 (Reel 8). > > > > 12 March 1739. Peter Gill Location: Henrico County. Description: 180 acres on the north side of Appamattox River. Begg. at a corner pine of the said Gills standg. on the north side of the main branch of the Old Town Creek. Source: Land Office Patents No. 19, 1739-1741, p. 577 (Reel 17).> > > > North Side of Appottomax ! River will fall into Chesterfield Co when it forms and be a County Line for Amelia Co.> >> 26 November 1756. Jonathan Ray: Chesterfield Co.: Description: 160 acres on both sides of Old Town Creek and Log Branch. Source: Land Office Patents No. 34, 1756-1765, p. 145 (Reel 33-34).> > This Old Town Creek must have had a name Change as I can no longer find it in Chesterfield Co. deeds.> > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> > 28 September 1730 Abraham Burton: Location: Prince George County. Description: 400 acres on the upper side of Flatt Creek, adjoining William Kennon. Source: Land Office Patents No. 13, 1725-1730 (v.1 & 2 p.1-540), p. 527 (Reel 12). > Notes: Flatt Creek is also in Amelia Co. Records and connected to Mayo-Hatcher Familes> > 28 September 1730 Abraham Burton: Location: Prince George County. Description: 200 acres on the upper side of Deep Creek on Appomattox River. Source: Land Office Patents No. 13, 1725-1730 (v.1 & 2 p.1-5!> 40), p. 532 (Reel 12). > > this Abraham Burton's lands were on the South Side of Appottomax River (North Appottomax will be in Chesterfield Co. When it forms)> > 20 June 1733 John Adams: Location: Prince George County. Description: 400 acres on the upper side of Deep Creek adjoining lines of Abraham Burton. Source: Land Office Patents No. 15, 1732-1735 (v.1 & 2 p.1-522), p. 39 (Reel 13).> > 23 March 1733 Seth Perkins: Location: Prince George County. Description: 300 acres on the south side of Appomattox River on both sides of Andersons Road, adjoining Abraham Burton, Widow Beavil, and John Adams. Source: Land Office Patents No. 15, 1732-1735 (v.1 & 2 p.1-522), p. 187 (Reel 13). > > THis is Anne Bevill in the Upper Deeds connected to Essex Bevill> > 20 May 1735 Abraham Burton: Location: Prince George County. Description: 150 acres on the lower side of the Beaverpond Branch of Deep Creek Source: Land Office Patents No. 15, 1732-1735 (v.1 & 2 p.1-522), p. 508 (Reel 13)> 1736 Amelia Co. Will of Abraham Burton> > This does no surprise be as Flatt Creek is in Amelia Co and in Prince George Co. ( I Can not remember what COunty it actual ends up in)> > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> > First Garret Families found in my files > > 20 JUL 1665 "Daniel Clarke gent of Windsor C.C.Co. sells to Willm Garret planter, for 1200 lb tobo 100 acres that adj[oins] the horse path that goes to 'James Citty', adj. land of Neale St Cleare, the land of Tho: Porter as set out by patent etc." [22] This time the witnesses are Tho: Porter and Wm Collingwood; again Daniel and Frances Clarke "Rec. in Cur" 3 AUG 1665. "Daniell Clarke Gent" obtained a revised patent 25 JUL 1665 for "1000 acs being a neck lying in between Old Man Cr ... granted to sd Clarke 28 JAN 1662 ..." [23] . Notes: Lt. Col. DANIEL CLARKE of Windsor by Linda Sparks Starr, OCT 1999> > LTC DANIEL CLARKE REMARRIED THE WIDOW OF ON LTC RICHARD COCKE OF HENRICO COUNTY VA> > He lived on Oldmans Creek next to a Thomas Wheeler and the William Murrell Familes: > > The Murrell Familes migrated to Byrd Creek in Henrico Co beside several of the Allied Hatcher Familes as Byrd Creek is a Drainiage of the Tuckahoe Creek where we Find Robert Burton and Edward Hatcher Jr. in 1690 > > What is Interesting is these families are South of the James River: and neighbors of Thomas Stegg and William Byrds> > Some of Byrds lands and some of Steggs lands will end up in Chesterfield Co. when it forms.> > > ----- Original Message> From: james garrett<mailto:jwgarrett@webtv.net<mailto:jwgarrett@webtv.net>> > To: hatcher@rootsweb.com<mailto:hatcher@rootsweb.com<mailto:hatcher@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:hatcher@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 8:41 PM> Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Now looking for help............> > > Tony,> Out of curiosity, have you come across any Garrott/Garrett (similar spelling)surnames in your "search families" in Charles City, Henrico, Chesterfield, Goochland, Prince George? Any deed abstracts available?> > My John Garrott b. 1690s md Susannah Burton (d/o Abraham Burton, s/o Thomas Burton b 1634).> > Abraham Burton resided around Old Town Creek, south of Swift Creek in Henrico in 1717/18 before moving to Prince George Co in 1730 where he & John Garrott purchased land on the south side of Appomatox River.> > > -----Original Message-----> From: Tony Johnson> Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 3:22 PM> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DorisPetty87 Surnames: Hatcher - Tait - Glock-Grandon - Kerns - Jones - Burks - Jones - Derenburger Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.hatcher/1845/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Tait - Martha Tait Hatcher, 84, of Kanawha City, returned to the Lord on Saturday, April 5, 2008. She was born in Morgantown to the late John Finley Tait and Ada Wilson Tait and then resided in Charleston for over sixty years. Mrs. Hatcher made her home in Charleston in the mid forties. She was a homemaker and a mother to seven children. She enjoyed a variety of activities, including traveling, gardening and caring for her family. For several years, she was a realtor with Top Rock Realty. She was also a member of the Eastern Star, White Shrine, Amaranth, Dames of the Magna Carte, and the Monongalia General Auxiliary, Morgantown. She was preceded in death by her husband, Lewis A. Hatcher; and son, Tait A. Hatcher. Those left to celebrate her life include her daughter-in-law, Connie Hatcher of Morgantown; daughters and their spouses, Suzanne and Robert Glock of Morgantown, Linda and Harry Grandon of Morgantown, Mary Virginia and Dennis Kerns of Morgantown, Heather and John Barry of Charleston, and Alexandra and Bob Hartman of Raleigh, N.C.; son, John Burks and Judy of Charleston; sisters, Virginia Jones of Morgantown and Carolyn Derenburger of South Charleston; 13 grandchildren; and 10 great-grandchildren, to whom she was known as "Mimi". The funeral service will be held at 1 p.m. on Tuesday, April 8, 2008, at First Presbyterian Church, Charleston, with the Rev. Dr. William McCoy officiating. Burial will follow at Sunset Memorial Park, South Charleston. Friends may call from 7 to 9 p.m. Monday, April 7, at Barlow-Bonsall Funeral Home, Charleston. The family would like to extend a special thanks to caregivers, neighbors and friends for their love, support and prayers. The family suggests donations be made to First Presbyterian Church, 16 Leon Sullivan Way, Charleston, WV 25301 and/or Monongalia General Hospital, 1200 J.D. Anderson Drive, Morgantown, WV 26505. Condolences may be sent to the family at www.barlowbonsall.com. Arrangements have been entrusted to Barlow-Bonsall Funeral Home, Charleston. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: StephanieBell41 Surnames: Raynor, Hatcher, Bell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.hatcher/1844/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for information on Kizzie Raynor,b. 11 Oct 1891, NC d. 31 March 1981,with another record showing 22 Dec. 1987, in Kenansville, Duplin County, NC. She married Bill Hatcher, and they had at least 1 child, Mamie Mae Hatcher. Kizzie was my father-in-law's (William Douglas Bell) grandmother. Can anyone help? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DorisPetty87 Surnames: Hatcher - Holdsworth - Van Marx - Gardner - Cunningham - Jepsen - Meyer Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.hatcher/1843/mb.ashx Message Board Post: HATCHER, BARBARA HOLDSWORTH Paid NOTICE: Published The New York Times, Tuesday April 8, 2008 Published: November 21, 2003 HATCHER--Barbara Holdsworth. Died November 18, 2003. She was predeceased by her husband Lloyd B. Hatcher. She is survived by her brother Frederick Holdsworth, Jr., a daughter Barbara H. van Marx of Darien, CT., a son L. Brower Hatcher of Block Island, RI, grandchildren Paul L.A. van Marx, deceased, Robert C.A. van Marx, Genevieve Gardner and Anabelle Jepsen, stepgranddaughters Jennifer Cunningham, Rachel Meyer and Claudia Meyer, greatgrandchildren Waylon and Ella Jepsen, step - great grandchildren Emma and Kate Cunningham. Donations may be made to St. John's Church, Cold Spring Harbor, Long Island, NY 11724. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nelhatch Surnames: HATCHER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.hatcher/1123.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you are interested in the ancestors of James William Hatcher, you might want to check out our site at http://hatcherfamilyassn.com This family tracks back to William Hatcher, 1613-1680. Any questions or problems, just holler. Nel Hatcher Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rshoemaker69 Surnames: Gadd, Hatcher Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.hatcher/1123.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am currently working on the Gadd and Hatcher families. I would like to get additional info. This is what I have: Descendants of James William Hatcher 1 James William Hatcher b: 19 Oct 1876 in Odd, ,WV d: 26 Nov 1941 in Odd, ,WV . Sarah Anne Gadd b: 25 May 1884 d: 07 May 1966 2 Arnold G. Hatcher b: 31 Jul 1901 d: 26 May 1976 ... Flora Caroline Smith b: 08 Sep 1906 in , Greenbrier, WV d: 30 Jun 1999 in , Raliegh, WV 3 Mary E. Hatcher .... Greene 3 William L. Hatcher 3 Bobbie Eugene Hatcher 3 James W. Hatcher 3 Beulah O. Hatcher b: 1928 .... Alvin W. Farley . 4 Jesse Farley . 4 Judy Farley ..... White .. 5 Jerry White . 4 Alvada Farley 2 [1] Rebecca J. Hatcher b: 05 Feb 1902 in , Summers, WV ... Clancey Dawson *2nd Husband of [1] Rebecca J. Hatcher: ... Henry Houston Dunham b: 03 Jan 1887 in , , OH 3 Theodore Dunham .... Donna Truit 2 Roy Emmerson Hatcher b: 1922 d: 1995 ... Susan Wood 3 Alan Hatcher Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Looks like I stand corrected and that makes me a very happy camper! Below you will find the question I asked of Dr Barry Hall, a geneticist, and below that you can read his response. No, we do not have an impossible situation but, yes, it's rare. So you know who we're talking about - A1 is Amy; A2 is Josh; B1 is Chuck. ------------------------ HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Thanks, Barry. May take me a day or two to get it online but will let you know when it's done. But I'm wondering if you could answer a quick (I hope) question for me. I have 3 Hatcher testers that all descend from the same man about 8-9 gens back thru 2 sons. Two testers (call them A1 and A2) have a common ancestor, their ggfather, who descends from son A. The 3rd tester is thru son B. At DYS-391 A1 = 11 (this is the value common to all the other 50+ testers in this family) A2 = 10 (and I considered this a mutation occurring between the tester and his ggfather). B1 = 10. One big "Say what?" I don't know what the odds are but I didn't think a mutation could occur in 2 branches of the same line at the exact same marker with the exact same value. We have excellent documentation on these 3 guys and I'm not seeing any "hole" where we could have made this kind of mistake since it appears B1 should be very closely related to A2 within the past 2 gens. None of these 3 have ever met the others nor have they ever lived remotely close to each other. Am I dead wrong in my thinking that there's something seriously wrong here? Is it really possible to have this identical mutation occur with testers who are related but not that closely related? Cheers, Nel ------------------------- (Response from Barry) When two individuals share the same allele (value at a particular marker) there are only two possibilities: (1) the alleles are identical by descent, meaning that they inherited that allele from a common ancestor. (2) the two alleles arose independently. Keep in mind that a mutation changes an allele from some state to another state; i.e. from 11 to 10, or from 10 to 11. Let's call the common ancestor of all three X, and the son who is the ggfather of A1 and A2 Y, and consider the two possibilities: (1) X carried the 10 allele. That means that a mutation from 11 to 10 occurred either in him or in an immediate ancestor who left no other descendants that are currently in the Hatcher DNA results. Somewhere between Y and A1 another mutation changed the 10 allele back to 11. That means that A2 and B share the 10 allele by descent from X. In total, two mutations occurred. (2) X carried the common 11 allele. In that case the mutation from 11 to 10 occurred twice, once somewhere between Y and A2 and again somewhere between X and B1. In total, two mutations occurred. We usually proceed on the assumption that the most likely explanation is the one that requires the fewest mutations. In this case that helps not one bit. First, it certainly is possible for the same mutation to occur multiple times in different branches, it is just a rare (unlikely) event. It is just as unlikely for the two mutations to be 11 to 10 and back to 11 as it is for two independent mutations from 11 to 10 to occur. Assuming that the DNA analysis is good in all three cases, we must conclude that an unlikely pair of mutations have occurred. We just don't know which scenario actually occurred. Keep in mind that the values 10 and 11 are the number of repeats of some sequence at locus 391. The most common mutation is a gain or loss of one repeat. Thus neither of the two possibilities is all that surprising. If the change had been 11 to 9, I would have been much more suspicious of your genealogy. Bottom line: I see no reason to think there is a conflict between the genealogy and the DNA results. The history simply include an improbable event. Barry

This is the only Deep Creek Deeds I found that might have some clues on Abraham Burton and your Garrets 1712 May 6, for John WEST, at fork of Deep Creek, known as the Island The following surveys were made by Robert BOLLING Prince George Co Surveyor and reported to the courts. 1712 May 6, for Thomas HOBBY(HOBBS), at fork of Deep Creek above the Island, known as Seller Fork The following surveys were made by Robert BOLLING Prince George Co Surveyor and reported to the courts. 1712 May 7, for Lawrence HOBBY(HOBBS), on east side of Deep Creek, opposite to West's Island The following surveys were made by Robert BOLLING Prince George Co Surveyor and reported to the courts. http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Delta/7003/pgsurveys.html<http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Delta/7003/pgsurveys.html> 1728 Ben Ward was granted 780 acres between Knibs and Deep Creek: History of Amelia County Va. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com Notes: Ben Ward Unknown at this time which Ward Familes he comes from Notes: Knibs Creek Notes: Deep Creek Amelia County Flatt Creek I have a whole report on these Allied families mostly Mayo and Randolph Lines: Randolphs connect to General James Randolph Robertson unknown how. 1766 John Anderson born abt 1705 Prince George Co. died in Amelia Co. Va. Note he is also on Tithables for Below Flat Creek and Nibbs Creek 1749-1756

James You might check Parish records of Westover Parish for your Garret Families as some of the Lands owned by three Lands Owners that interes my research in 1640 era Matthew Boyce, William Byrd and his Kinsman Thomas Stegg fall into Chesterfield CO. Va. when it is formed. Capt. Edlows whose lands were beside Boyces are found in St. Peter Register in 1690 era this is where we fist find Michal Johnson and John Jones our Johnson DNA Lines. I love to document where our Joint families of William Hatcher where at on LANDS in Virginia and NC, as I believe OUR JOINT FAMILES moved together when they moved. Right now we have info on the Thomas Shippey families. I Mentioned an Abraham Burton below isthis your Abraham Burton Reason I do not have a Deep Creek files started for Amelia County as of yet on our Joint Familes. I do have an Amelia Co file going Going into Deep Creek in AMelia Co. will follow with 2nd post. Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: james garrett<mailto:jwgarrett@webtv.net> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com<mailto:hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Now looking for help............ Tony, Thanks for the response Yes, my John Garrott died in Amelia co in May 1744. I am familiar with the John garrett of Upper Norfolk. DNA testing shows that my John Garrott is NOT connected with John Garrott of Upper Norfolk. I do have some additional info on the John Garrett of Upper Norfolk if interested. I have found earlier Garretts in Charles city & Henrico who are likely connected to my John of Henrico & Amelia. But have only a few deed abstracts available to go on for any Garrott/Garrett families. Most likely John Garrett met Susannah Burton around Old Town, south of Swift Creek, north of Appomatox in abt 1617/18. Trying to locate any deed abstracts for any Garrett families in that area. Thanks again! Jim JW Garrett <jwgarrett@webtv.net<mailto:jwgarrett@webtv.net>>> From: TJOregon@hotmail.com<mailto:TJOregon@hotmail.com>> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com<mailto:hatcher@rootsweb.com>> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:40:53 -0700> Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Now looking for help............> > Yes> > The Garrot, Garret or Garruent Names is one of our Mixed Families: hard to Explain> > This name is associated with Doodes Minor and wife Mary Guerant Johnson whose children will Mary into several families: Peter De Montague, into familes of LTC Richard Cocke of Henrico Co> > Did your John Garrot die in Amelia CO Va abt May 1744 or before reason Abrham Burton's will is found in Amelia County: See below for land explanation> > A Garret Johnson (Huguenants) lived on Chickahominy River by Chickamony Swamp were we find the Watson Families.> > This is in the Area of the Families of Nicholas Robertson (Great Grandfather of General James Randolph Robertson (Gower- Hatcher lines) This Robinson-Robertson Families will be near Swift Creek in the family lines coming off Christopher Robertson-Robinson. But OUR Families settled on Rivers and Creeks that went thru several Counties. Christopher Robinson and Gowere lands will go into Prince George Co when it forms.> > in 1712 lands South of the Appottomax River went into Prince George Co. Hatchers Run was one of them were we find the Christopher Robertson Families and the Gower Families.> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> > Neighbors on Old Town Creek> > 27 October 1671 Description: Grantee(s): Bevill, Essex and Bevill, Anne, his wife. 600 acres on the North side of Appamattox River beginning near the mouth of the commonly called the Old Town Creek.> > 20 October 1691 JOHN WILSON Sr. Location: Henrico County. Description: 148 acres in the parish of Bristol and on the Old Town Creek. Source: Land Office Patents No. 8, 1689-1695, p. 171 (Reel 8). > > 12 March 1739. Peter Gill Location: Henrico County. Description: 180 acres on the north side of Appamattox River. Begg. at a corner pine of the said Gills standg. on the north side of the main branch of the Old Town Creek. Source: Land Office Patents No. 19, 1739-1741, p. 577 (Reel 17).> > North Side of Appottomax ! River will fall into Chesterfield Co when it forms and be a County Line for Amelia Co.> > 26 November 1756. Jonathan Ray: Chesterfield Co.: Description: 160 acres on both sides of Old Town Creek and Log Branch. Source: Land Office Patents No. 34, 1756-1765, p. 145 (Reel 33-34).> > This Old Town Creek must have had a name Change as I can no longer find it in Chesterfield Co. deeds.> > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> > 28 September 1730 Abraham Burton: Location: Prince George County. Description: 400 acres on the upper side of Flatt Creek, adjoining William Kennon. Source: Land Office Patents No. 13, 1725-1730 (v.1 & 2 p.1-540), p. 527 (Reel 12). Notes: Flatt Creek is also in Amelia Co. Records and connected to Mayo-Hatcher Familes 28 September 1730 Abraham Burton: Location: Prince George County. Description: 200 acres on the upper side of Deep Creek on Appomattox River. Source: Land Office Patents No. 13, 1725-1730 (v.1 & 2 p.1-5! 40), p. 532 (Reel 12). this Abraham Burton's lands were on the South Side of Appottomax River (North Appottomax will be in Chesterfield Co. When it forms) 20 June 1733 John Adams: Location: Prince George County. Description: 400 acres on the upper side of Deep Creek adjoining lines of Abraham Burton. Source: Land Office Patents No. 15, 1732-1735 (v.1 & 2 p.1-522), p. 39 (Reel 13). 23 March 1733 Seth Perkins: Location: Prince George County. Description: 300 acres on the south side of Appomattox River on both sides of Andersons Road, adjoining Abraham Burton, Widow Beavil, and John Adams. Source: Land Office Patents No. 15, 1732-1735 (v.1 & 2 p.1-522), p. 187 (Reel 13). THis is Anne Bevill in the Upper Deeds connected to Essex Bevill 20 May 1735 Abraham Burton: Location: Prince George County. Description: 150 acres on the lower side of the Beaverpond Branch of Deep Creek Source: Land Office Patents No. 15, 1732-1735 (v.1 & 2 p.1-522), p. 508 (Reel 13) 1736 Amelia Co. Will of Abraham Burton> > This does no surprise be as Flatt Creek is in Amelia Co and in Prince George Co. ( I Can not remember what COunty it actual ends up in) XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX First Garret Families found in my files 20 JUL 1665 "Daniel Clarke gent of Windsor C.C.Co. sells to Willm Garret planter, for 1200 lb tobo 100 acres that adj[oins] the horse path that goes to 'James Citty', adj. land of Neale St Cleare, the land of Tho: Porter as set out by patent etc." [22] This time the witnesses are Tho: Porter and Wm Collingwood; again Daniel and Frances Clarke "Rec. in Cur" 3 AUG 1665. "Daniell Clarke Gent" obtained a revised patent 25 JUL 1665 for "1000 acs being a neck lying in between Old Man Cr ... granted to sd Clarke 28 JAN 1662 ..." [23] . Notes: Lt. Col. DANIEL CLARKE of Windsor by Linda Sparks Starr, OCT 1999 LTC DANIEL CLARKE REMARRIED THE WIDOW OF ON LTC RICHARD COCKE OF HENRICO COUNTY VA He lived on Oldmans Creek next to a Thomas Wheeler and the William Murrell Familes: The Murrell Familes migrated to Byrd Creek in Henrico Co beside several of the Allied Hatcher Familes as Byrd Creek is a Drainiage of the Tuckahoe Creek where we Find Robert Burton and Edward Hatcher Jr. in 1690 What is Interesting is these families are South of the James River: and neighbors of Thomas Stegg and William Byrds Some of Byrds lands and some of Steggs lands will end up in Chesterfield Co. when it forms.> > > ----- Original Message From: james garrett<mailto:jwgarrett@webtv.net<mailto:jwgarrett@webtv.net>> > To: hatcher@rootsweb.com<mailto:hatcher@rootsweb.com<mailto:hatcher@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 8:41 PM> Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Now looking for help............> > > Tony,> Out of curiosity, have you come across any Garrott/Garrett (similar spelling)surnames in your "search families" in Charles City, Henrico, Chesterfield, Goochland, Prince George? Any deed abstracts available? My John Garrott b. 1690s md Susannah Burton (d/o Abraham Burton, s/o Thomas Burton b 1634). Abraham Burton resided around Old Town Creek, south of Swift Creek in Henrico in 1717/18 before moving to Prince George Co in 1730 where he & John Garrott purchased land on the south side of Appomatox River.> > > -----Original Message-----> From: Tony Johnson> Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 3:22 PM>

Tony, Thanks for the response Yes, my John Garrott died in Amelia co in May 1744. I am familiar with the John garrett of Upper Norfolk. DNA testing shows that my John Garrott is NOT connected with John Garrott of Upper Norfolk. I do have some additional info on the John Garrett of Upper Norfolk if interested. I have found earlier Garretts in Charles city & Henrico who are likely connected to my John of Henrico & Amelia. But have only a few deed abstracts available to go on for any Garrott/Garrett families. Most likely John Garrett met Susannah Burton around Old Town, south of Swift Creek, north of Appomatox in abt 1617/18. Trying to locate any deed abstracts for any Garrett families in that area. Thanks again! Jim JW Garrett <jwgarrett@webtv.net>> From: TJOregon@hotmail.com> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:40:53 -0700> Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Now looking for help............> > Yes> > The Garrot, Garret or Garruent Names is one of our Mixed Families: hard to Explain> > This name is associated with Doodes Minor and wife Mary Guerant Johnson whose children will Mary into several families: Peter De Montague, into familes of LTC Richard Cocke of Henrico Co> > Did your John Garrot die in Amelia CO Va abt May 1744 or before reason Abrham Burton's will is found in Amelia County: See below for land explanation> > A Garret Johnson (Huguenants) lived on Chickahominy River by Chickamony Swamp were we find the Watson Families.> > 1645 May John Garret Location: Upper Norfolk County Description: 232 acres on the south side of New Town Haven River, beg.g &c. by the river side &c. adjoining land of Henry Bradley. ( This is the Pagan River Families unusual to find them in Upper Norfolk Area.) This is in the Area of the Families of Nicholas Robertson (Great Grandfather of General James Randolph Robertson (Gower- Hatcher lines) This Robinson-Robertson Families will be near Swift Creek in the family lines coming off Christopher Robertson-Robinson. But OUR Families settled on Rivers and Creeks that went thru several Counties. Christopher Robinson and Gowere lands will go into Prince George Co when it forms.> > 10 February 1645 William Jacob Location: Upper Norfolk County Description: 232 acres on the south side of New Town haven river, adjoining the land of John Garret and Henry Bradley. Source: Land Office Patents No. 2, 1643-1651, p. 72 (Reel 2). > > 25 July 1646 John garret: Location: Upper Norfolk County. Description: 400 acres upon the head of a creek or branch called Indian Creek which issueth from the western branch of Nansimund River. Source: Land Office Patents No. 2, 1643-1651, p. 71 (Reel 2). > > 1702 Aug 24: John Garret Will: Part of index to York County Wills and Administrations (1633-1811) > > in 1712 lands South of the Appottomax River went into Prince George Co. Hatchers Run was one of them were we find the Christopher Robertson Families and the Gower Families.> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> > Neighbors on Old Town Creek> > 27 October 1671 Description: Grantee(s): Bevill, Essex and Bevill, Anne, his wife. 600 acres on the North side of Appamattox River beginning near the mouth of the commonly called the Old Town Creek.> > 20 October 1691 JOHN WILSON Sr. Location: Henrico County. Description: 148 acres in the parish of Bristol and on the Old Town Creek. Source: Land Office Patents No. 8, 1689-1695, p. 171 (Reel 8). > > 12 March 1739. Peter Gill Location: Henrico County. Description: 180 acres on the north side of Appamattox River. Begg. at a corner pine of the said Gills standg. on the north side of the main branch of the Old Town Creek. Source: Land Office Patents No. 19, 1739-1741, p. 577 (Reel 17).> > North Side of Appottomax River will fall into Chesterfield Co when it forms and be a County Line for Amelia Co.> > 26 November 1756. Jonathan Ray: Chesterfield Co.: Description: 160 acres on both sides of Old Town Creek and Log Branch. Source: Land Office Patents No. 34, 1756-1765, p. 145 (Reel 33-34).> > This Old Town Creek must have had a name Change as I can no longer find it in Chesterfield Co. deeds.> > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> > 2 November 1705 Abraham Micheaux Location: Henrico County. Description: 574 acres on the south side of James River, and on both sides of the lower Manakin Town Creek. Source: Land Office Patents No. 9, 1697-1706 (v.1 & 2 p.1-742), p. 679 (Reel 9). > > 16 June 1714 Stephen Chastaine: Location: Henrico County. Description: 280 acres on the west side of the upper Manakin Town Creek. Source: Land Office Patents No. 10, 1710-1719, p. 156 (Reel 10). > > 16 June 1714 Peter Dutoy: Location: Henrico County. Description: 400 acres on a great branch, on the upper side of the Manakin Town Creek Source: Land Office Patents No. 10, 1710-1719, p. 133 (Reel 10). > > 11 July 1719. Jean Jouaney Location: Henrico County Description: 650 acres on the south side of James River, Begg. &c. between two meadows and the main upper branch of the Monakin Town Creek. Source: Land Office Patents No. 10, 1710-1719, p. 421 (Reel 10). > > Manakain Town goes into Goochland Co. St. James Parish.> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> > 28 September 1730 Abraham Burton: Location: Prince George County. Description: 400 acres on the upper side of Flatt Creek, adjoining William Kennon. Source: Land Office Patents No. 13, 1725-1730 (v.1 & 2 p.1-540), p. 527 (Reel 12). > > Notes: Flatt Creek is also in Amelia Co. Records and connected to Mayo-Hatcher Familes> > 28 September 1730 Abraham Burton: Location: Prince George County. Description: 200 acres on the upper side of Deep Creek on Appomattox River. Source: Land Office Patents No. 13, 1725-1730 (v.1 & 2 p.1-540), p. 532 (Reel 12). > > this Abraham Burton's lands were on the South Side of Appottomax River (North Appottomax will be in Chesterfield Co. When it forms)> > 20 June 1733 John Adams: Location: Prince George County. Description: 400 acres on the upper side of Deep Creek adjoining lines of Abraham Burton. Source: Land Office Patents No. 15, 1732-1735 (v.1 & 2 p.1-522), p. 39 (Reel 13). > > 23 March 1733 Seth Perkins: Location: Prince George County. Description: 300 acres on the south side of Appomattox River on both sides of Andersons Road, adjoining Abraham Burton, Widow Beavil, and John Adams. Source: Land Office Patents No. 15, 1732-1735 (v.1 & 2 p.1-522), p. 187 (Reel 13). > > THis is Anne Bevill in the Upper Deeds connected to Essex Bevill> > 20 May 1735 Abraham Burton: Location: Prince George County. Description: 150 acres on the lower side of the Beaverpond Branch of Deep Creek Source: Land Office Patents No. 15, 1732-1735 (v.1 & 2 p.1-522), p. 508 (Reel 13).> > 1736 Amelia Co. Will of Abraham Burton> > This does no surprise be as Flatt Creek is in Amelia Co and in Prince George Co. ( I Can not remember what COunty it actual ends up in)> > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> > First Garret Families found in my files> > 20 JUL 1665 "Daniel Clarke gent of Windsor C.C.Co. sells to Willm Garret planter, for 1200 lb tobo 100 acres that adj[oins] the horse path that goes to 'James Citty', adj. land of Neale St Cleare, the land of Tho: Porter as set out by patent etc." [22] This time the witnesses are Tho: Porter and Wm Collingwood; again Daniel and Frances Clarke "Rec. in Cur" 3 AUG 1665. "Daniell Clarke Gent" obtained a revised patent 25 JUL 1665 for "1000 acs being a neck lying in between Old Man Cr ... granted to sd Clarke 28 JAN 1662 ..." [23] . Notes: Lt. Col. DANIEL CLARKE of Windsor by Linda Sparks Starr, OCT 1999> > LTC DANIEL CLARKE REMARRIED THE WIDOW OF ON LTC RICHARD COCKE OF HENRICO COUNTY VA> He lived on Oldmans Creek next to a Thomas Wheeler and the William Murrell Familes: The Murrell Familes migrated to Byrd Creek in Henrico Co beside several of the Allied Hatcher Familes as Byrd Creek is a Drainiage of the Tuckahoe Creek where we Find Robert Burton and Edward Hatcher Jr. in 1690> > What is Interesting is these families are South of the James River: and neighbors of Thomas Stegg and William Byrds > > Some of Byrds lands and some of Steggs lands will end up in Chesterfield Co. when it forms.> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: james garrett<mailto:jwgarrett@webtv.net> > To: hatcher@rootsweb.com<mailto:hatcher@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 8:41 PM> Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Now looking for help............> > > Tony,> Out of curiosity, have you come across any Garrott/Garrett (similar spelling)surnames in your "search families" in Charles City, Henrico, Chesterfield, Goochland, Prince George? Any deed abstracts available?> > My John Garrott b. 1690s md Susannah Burton (d/o Abraham Burton, s/o Thomas Burton b 1634).> Abraham Burton resided around Old Town Creek, south of Swift Creek in Henrico in 1717/18 before moving to Prince George Co in 1730 where he & John Garrott purchased land on the south side of Appomatox River.> > > -----Original Message-----> From: Tony Johnson> Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 3:22 PM> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com<mailto:hatcher@rootsweb.com>> Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Now looking for help............> > Nel> > I Aint done yet on OUR JOINT FAMILIES: OF HARRIS: TANNER: JOHNSON: HATCHER: ELAMS: SIZEMORES: FARMER: HUDSON: WYATT and all our neighbors in 1620-1650> > Tony> ----- Original Message ----- > From: nelhatch<mailto:nelhatch@hills.net<mailto:nelhatch@hills.net>> > To: hatcher@rootsweb.com<mailto:hatcher@rootsweb.com<mailto:hatcher@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:hatcher@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 12:04 PM> Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Now looking for help............> > > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com<http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/<http://hatcherfamilyassn.com%3chttp//hatcherfamilyassn.com/>>> HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm<http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm<http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm%3Chttp://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm>>> "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood> > Tony just BURIED me in files....and files.....and files.....!> > Just for that I'm going to run away from home this afternoon and replenish the ol' brain cells with a cold one.....or two. Time for an R & R break :-)> > Thanks a bunch, Tony!> > Nel> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> So, you and I are fourth cousins! I am in Louisville KY, but was born > in Green County, KY. What part of the country are you in now, and > where were you born, Chuck? I am in eastern KY near my birthplace of Ashland. My father's family is from Green County - Hatcher, Gaines, Clark, Bridgewater, Logan, Sharp, Wilson, Moody. My mother is from Pike County near the Virginia border - Sanders, Senter, Cantrell, Phillips, Potter, Adkins, Francisco, McFall, McBrayer. Chuck

Chuck: I stand corrected - - Henry V, b. 1755 - - don't know how I managed to type that wrong info. That's what I get for trying to answer emails with little one-year old granddaughter hugging my leg and reaching for the mouse and keyboard! So, you and I are fourth cousins! I am in Louisville KY, but was born in Green County, KY. What part of the country are you in now, and where were you born, Chuck? Martha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hatcher" <chuck@hatcher.biz> To: <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] And this is for Chuck........ >> So, Chuck! My GGGgandmother Phoebe HATCHER (m. Beverley CALDWELL) >> and your ancestor Nancy HATCHER (m. John MOODY) are sisters! Both >> are daughters of Henry HATCHER IV b.1733 (m. Unknown). >> Martha > > > Yes but it gets even better. Phoebe and Nancy had a brother Jeremiah, and > he > is my GGGgrandfather. So we're cousins at least two ways. > > (I think you meant to say they were daughters of Henry V b.~1755, not > Henry > IV b.1733.) > > Is there a scanned image available somewhere of the Henry Hatcher V/Nancy > Haskins family bible pages? > > Thanks for the help, > Chuck > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.8/1362 - Release Date: 4/6/2008 > 11:12 AM >

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Tanks a bunch, Winnette! If we can't find these Moodys from the top down, we'll work our way from the bottom UP! Nel

> Her DC also says her father was Thomas Clark, not James, sooooooo.....! According to family recollection, she was raised by an uncle. But starting at what age I do not know. My great aunts knew some of this stuff, but now it's too late to ask them.

> How did you come up with biz in place of org, com, or net? Somebody else got to those ahead of me! Chuck

DEED BOOK ENTRY Green Co., Kentucky, deed book 6, pages 448-449 September 3, 1813 Susannah Bass, executrix and Peter Bass, executor of Thomas Bass deceased, George Moody, John Moody, Ann Bass, wife of Josiah Bass make Henry Estes of Green County their attorney-in-fact to receive from the estate of Thomas Bass Sr., deceased, of Chesterfield County, Virginia a legacy which I, Susannah Bass am entitled to as heir of Thomas Bass Sr., deceased, and which we, George Moody, John Moody and Ann Bass, wife of Josiah Bass are entitled to by our mother, Mary Moody, deceased, who was heir of Thomas Bass Sr., deceased. Signed: Susannah Bass, Peter Bass, George Moody, John Moody, Josiah Bass Green County SCT: Power-of-attorney acknowledged Recorded: September 3, 1813 by James Allen