HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Hmmm....maybe another piece of rationale. I see that Navarro and Freestone are adjacent counties. But I've yet to find Callahan Co. Seems his family moved to Callahan pre-1900 while Guy hopped over into NavarroCo and found himself a job and place to live. Then the family returned, not to Freestone but to Navarro where Richard died 1906. Nel

Callahan County is located in west Texas. If you travel west on Interstate 20, you will pass through Callahan County just before you get to Abilene, Texas. I personally never heard of it either, but dug out my trusty map. It is a good distance from Navarro and Freestone Counties. I live in Limestone County which adjoins Freestone County and Navarro. Betty Hawkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <nelhatch@hills.net> To: <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 6:00 AM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] It's been a l-o-o-o-o-n-g time....... > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D > Greenwood > > Hmmm....maybe another piece of rationale. I see that Navarro and Freestone > are adjacent counties. But I've yet to find Callahan Co. Seems his family > moved to Callahan pre-1900 while Guy hopped over into NavarroCo and found > himself a job and place to live. Then the family returned, not to > Freestone but to Navarro where Richard died 1906. > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Lynn, You're only looking at one of Guy's censi. He had 4 listed and in 2 of them, he gives his parents' bp as AL. Census info where someone is living with, boarding, or a lodger can be the least reliable since it's probably more likely the HOH or landlord who is giving the info. But the key was Guy's military record where he states his pob was FreestoneCo. And there would be no reason to assume he would be lieing about where he was born. Going to the 1880 Freestone census shows only one family - Richard and Geraldine. Guy's birth in 1882 fits right in with the normal gap between kids. Geraldine's 1910 census is obviously wrong when she states she had only 2 kids. It appears she claimed only those 2 kids who were still living at home. Note also that Richard died in NavarroCo and even though we can't find this family in the 1900 census, we DO find Guy in 1900 NavarroCo. Nel

Nell Thanks for the rationale Richard and Geraldine are found in 1900 residing in Callahan co. Texas Pct 8 household 12/12 page 1A he is listed as Reba in most online indexes Lynn ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <nelhatch@hills.net> To: <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] It's been a l-o-o-o-o-n-g time....... > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D > Greenwood > > Lynn, > > You're only looking at one of Guy's censi. He had 4 listed and in 2 of > them, he gives his parents' bp as AL. Census info where someone is living > with, boarding, or a lodger can be the least reliable since it's probably > more likely the HOH or landlord who is giving the info. > > But the key was Guy's military record where he states his pob was > FreestoneCo. And there would be no reason to assume he would be lieing > about where he was born. Going to the 1880 Freestone census shows only one > family - Richard and Geraldine. Guy's birth in 1882 fits right in with the > normal gap between kids. > > Geraldine's 1910 census is obviously wrong when she states she had only 2 > kids. It appears she claimed only those 2 kids who were still living at > home. > > Note also that Richard died in NavarroCo and even though we can't find > this family in the 1900 census, we DO find Guy in 1900 NavarroCo. > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Nell, How did you connect Guy G Hatcher to Richard Johnson Hatcher Jr. and wife Geraldine Lily Sanders? Looking at the 1910 Navarro co Tx.census where Guy is enumerated in the household of Calvin Scroggins it indicates that Guy' parents are from South Carolina and Mississippi. Richard Johnson Hatcher Jr. and Lily were from Alabama . We know by the census that Richard and Geraldine had at least 4 children Judson, John Benjamin, Mary and Charles. Judson and John Benjamin disappear after 1880. The 1900 census has Mary and Charles residing at home,1910 census, Geraldine says she has two children and two living and shows Mary and Charles still at home. In 1910 they are residing in Navarro Co. LynnRice LL4110@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <nelhatch@hills.net> To: "HATCHERLIST" <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:34 PM Subject: [HATCHER] It's been a l-o-o-o-o-n-g time....... > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D > Greenwood > > Wheeeeeee! Something I've not done in a long time.....I just connected an > unconnected family to the Im's file. A new son (and family) for Richard > Johnson Hatcher Jr of FreestoneCo, TX. > > This is the family of one-legged Jeremiah of EdgefieldCo, SC. > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Wheeeeeee! Something I've not done in a long time.....I just connected an unconnected family to the Im's file. A new son (and family) for Richard Johnson Hatcher Jr of FreestoneCo, TX. This is the family of one-legged Jeremiah of EdgefieldCo, SC. Nel

Hi Nel, Thanks for asking for help with research on my behalf. My George Perkins is believed to be in NC as early as 1810 ( could be earlier) where his first son John W (Wesley?) is born per 1850 census. The only Geroge Perkins I find in the 1810 census in NC is in Richmond county. I dont know if that George is mine. There is no George Perkins in NC in 1820 census. Their daughter Nancy is thought to be born about 1816/7 in AL prior to its statehood, according to 1850 census. Other Perkins in Richmond county are Jacob and John, dont know if they are related, my George is unconnected as of yet. They had 8 known children. I was thinking if I could find any land records for George in NC around 1810, perhaps around Richmond county, I might be able to see if there were other Perkins with land records in the same area at the same time. Georges wife is Elizabeth b. about 1792/3 in NC, whose maiden name is still unknown. George and Elizabeth are my brick wall. Would love to connect them to somebody. I am thinking land patents would probably be my best starting point with finding other early 19th century Perkins records. Thanks for any and all help. Thanks for any help and direction where to research. Sue

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Sue, To the best of my knowledge, your only option is the NC State Archives. I can't get into their site this morning to point you to the research request form. They also have a catalog where you can select the files/films where you might find your people. Research for NC residents is free, but not for non-residents. I worked with several of our NC Hatchers who submitted requests for me, costing me only their copying/postage costs when records were actually found. I'm pretty sure that if you've selected a film that's indexed, they are more willing to provide any record on that film regarding your surname. But it is also best to specify a specific person and ask if they would also include others of that surname, if found. Are their any of our NC residents who would be willing to work with Sue? Nel

Hatchers, I am brand new to researching NC genealogy records. Has anyone done any Hatcher research in NC regarding land records? I am looking for an online search database and as of yet have not found one with an online search link. Would welcome being pointed in a direction for this kind of research if it exists. Thanks for any and all help. Have a great weekend. Sue Dixey sodixey@hotmail.com

Actually, It's True and False. George Washington was the first president elected by the people. There were eight presidents prior to George Washington who were elected by the Continental Congress. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Nancy Thomas" <oldeual@earthlink.net> To: <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 6:33 AM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] History Lesson for the Day.... > If you go to Snopes.com you will find this is false................this > has > been "going around" for a while.......... > > Frank & Nancy Thomas > oldeual@earthlink.net > > "ASPIRE to INSPIRE > before you EXPIRE!!" > > >> [Original Message] >> From: <DNMIPETTY@aol.com> >> To: <hatcher@rootsweb.com> >> Date: 5/7/2008 1:26:03 AM >> Subject: Re: [HATCHER] History Lesson for the Day.... >> >> In a message dated 5/1/2008 9:12:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >> thehatchers@alltel.net writes: >> >> Bet you did not know this.... >> >> And all these years, I thought George Washington was the first > president!! >> Isn't history amazing!!! >> >> The first president? >> >> EIGHT MISSING Presidents >> I don't normally pass things like this on to others doing genealogy on > the >> Hatcher web site but it needs addressing. >> Sorry Nel. >> Doris >> >> >> >> Check out Snopes Urban legends. _Click here: snopes.com: First in > Piece_ >> (http://www.snopes.com/history/american/hanson.asp) >> >> "Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder, and your hand over my mouth" >> >> >> >> **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on > family >> favorites at AOL Food. >> (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.9/1417 - Release Date: 5/6/2008 > 8:07 AM > >

a falsehood will go around the world before truth can get it's pants on. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Nancy Thomas" <oldeual@earthlink.net> To: <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] History Lesson for the Day.... > If you go to Snopes.com you will find this is false................this > has > been "going around" for a while.......... > > Frank & Nancy Thomas > oldeual@earthlink.net > > "ASPIRE to INSPIRE > before you EXPIRE!!" > > >> [Original Message] >> From: <DNMIPETTY@aol.com> >> To: <hatcher@rootsweb.com> >> Date: 5/7/2008 1:26:03 AM >> Subject: Re: [HATCHER] History Lesson for the Day.... >> >> In a message dated 5/1/2008 9:12:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >> thehatchers@alltel.net writes: >> >> Bet you did not know this.... >> >> And all these years, I thought George Washington was the first > president!! >> Isn't history amazing!!! >> >> The first president? >> >> EIGHT MISSING Presidents >> I don't normally pass things like this on to others doing genealogy on > the >> Hatcher web site but it needs addressing. >> Sorry Nel. >> Doris >> >> >> >> Check out Snopes Urban legends. _Click here: snopes.com: First in > Piece_ >> (http://www.snopes.com/history/american/hanson.asp) >> >> "Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder, and your hand over my mouth" >> >> >> >> **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on > family >> favorites at AOL Food. >> (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

If you go to Snopes.com you will find this is false................this has been "going around" for a while.......... Frank & Nancy Thomas oldeual@earthlink.net "ASPIRE to INSPIRE before you EXPIRE!!" > [Original Message] > From: <DNMIPETTY@aol.com> > To: <hatcher@rootsweb.com> > Date: 5/7/2008 1:26:03 AM > Subject: Re: [HATCHER] History Lesson for the Day.... > > In a message dated 5/1/2008 9:12:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > thehatchers@alltel.net writes: > > Bet you did not know this.... > > And all these years, I thought George Washington was the first president!! > Isn't history amazing!!! > > The first president? > > EIGHT MISSING Presidents > I don't normally pass things like this on to others doing genealogy on the > Hatcher web site but it needs addressing. > Sorry Nel. > Doris > > > > Check out Snopes Urban legends. _Click here: snopes.com: First in Piece_ > (http://www.snopes.com/history/american/hanson.asp) > > "Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder, and your hand over my mouth" > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 5/1/2008 9:12:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, thehatchers@alltel.net writes: Bet you did not know this.... And all these years, I thought George Washington was the first president!! Isn't history amazing!!! The first president? EIGHT MISSING Presidents I don't normally pass things like this on to others doing genealogy on the Hatcher web site but it needs addressing. Sorry Nel. Doris Check out Snopes Urban legends. _Click here: snopes.com: First in Piece_ (http://www.snopes.com/history/american/hanson.asp) "Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder, and your hand over my mouth" **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

when i worked at a power plant about 30 miles north of denver we had a snow storm like yours. over 10 miles of poles almost touching the ground. the power plant was putting out juice, but our office, about fifty feet away from the unit had no electricity, and they had to repair the lines from a town about 20miles north of us so we could work.-----go figure----power plant----- no juice to our office--you understand don't bikerbob????? "IN GOD WE TRUST" RICHARD A. WALLER> From: nelhatch@hills.net> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 11:08:45 -0600> Subject: Re: [HATCHER] quiet> > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com> HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm> "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood> > Dean,> > Do I have ta give you geography lessons to explain the difference between NORTH and SOUTH Dakota?? (evil grin)> > But you are partly correct. 3000 downed electric poles in the counties north of the Black Hills. They go down like dominoes in those high winds. Lead/Deadwood got 54" of snow and now flood warnings. It's 58 degrees down here in the central hills and the little snow we got was gone the next day.> > Now if I hurry, I may be able to shatter the quiet before we head into Rapid..............so.........more later!> > Nel> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get Free (PRODUCT) RED™ Emoticons, Winks and Display Pics. http://joinred.spaces.live.com?ocid=TXT_HMTG_prodredemoticons_052008

Oh well, I know you're lost up there in southern Canada some- where. But with that much snow it's a good thing it didn't run downhill.....dean Dean, Do I have ta give you geography lessons to explain the difference between NORTH and SOUTH Dakota?? (evil grin)

I don't think they have the power up in ND yet. I understood there were 3,000 power poles down due to snow. Hard to believe but it was on CNN Dean T uesday, May 06, 2008 6:38 AM Subject: [HATCHER] quiet Sure is quiet....... Bikerbob **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood I just finished round 1 on the new ancestry TN marriages, filling in 1) sourcing for existing dates 2) marriage dates and counties where none existed 3) some surnames for LNU brides This first pass searched on Hatchers born in TN who were married. My next pass will be on Hatchers not born in TN but who died in TN. There were a few counties not on ancestry's dbase. SullivanCo was one of them. So if you're missing marriage info for your TN Hatchers, you might want to check them again. Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Dean, Do I have ta give you geography lessons to explain the difference between NORTH and SOUTH Dakota?? (evil grin) But you are partly correct. 3000 downed electric poles in the counties north of the Black Hills. They go down like dominoes in those high winds. Lead/Deadwood got 54" of snow and now flood warnings. It's 58 degrees down here in the central hills and the little snow we got was gone the next day. Now if I hurry, I may be able to shatter the quiet before we head into Rapid..............so.........more later! Nel

Sure is quiet....... Bikerbob **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Ah! So THAT's what those faint and hard to read pages are - the INDEX! If you missed any Hatchers, it sure won't be ME who's going to spot them :-) Thanks again! Nel