HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Paul, First, according to the interpretations I've heard, "walking contrary to discipline" means Wm was drunk, which certainly fits with his ongoing problems. There are many records referring to military activities of one sort or other but none referring to "walking." I also have Hinshaw's complete volumes but not Hiatt's work. But while Hiatt may have concentrated on certain meetings, in this case he and Hinshaw are translating the exact same page. I just find it disturbing that we have two interpretations of the same page that have wildly different meanings. How does one report that "Joseph" requested transfer while another reports that "William" requested transfer for his son? Another small problem, and only reflecting what I've found in dozens of records, is that, at age 17, Joseph is rather old to be apprenticed out (to learn a trade). Young boys are almost always 13-15 when apprenticed in the expectation they will have fully learned their trade by the time they are of an age to earn their own way. And while errors do occur, there was only a John Hatcher with records of RW service from PA. I've found no Joseph from any state with RW service. But all of this does not explain having a Joseph bn 1743, died 1808 in PA. If he was Wm's son, why was he not mentioned in the will? For that matter, how is it known how old Joseph in the MM records was? There's nothing there that gives his age so how is it known he's "about 17"? I'm also not understanding what you're saying here..... "My william was almost 70 years old at this time and I find it hard to believe he would be marching or doing other things attributed to "a William Hatcher" above." Are you saying you don't believe it was Wm, husband of Ann, who was disciplined for "violating chastity", drinking, abusing his children, etc? He was abt 53 when the Rachel Tanner incident occurred and 59 when caught drinking, fighting, etc. And his son is ID'd as Wm Jr on the same page. There could not have been two senior Wms there without some means of ID'ing them as different individuals. Still too many questions unanswered here :-( Nel

I don't believe this is my William, who was still married to Ann Van Sant all during these dates. Except possible this one: November 1761 - William requests a certificate for his son Joseph whom he has bound as apprentice to a Friend in Darby, Philadelphia county, Pennsylvania. "Early church Records of Loudoun county Virginia 1745-1800" by Marty Hiatt, Fairfax Monthly Meeting: HATCHER December 1757 - William guilty of several attempts to violate the chasity of Rachel TANNER February 1759 - William guilty of fornication. November 1761 - William requests a certificate for his son Joseph whom he has bound as apprentice to a Friend in Darby, Philadelphia county, Pennsylvania. January 1764 - Complaint against William for abuse of himself and reproachful conduct in frequenting taverns and public places. January 1773 - William HATCHER condemned his past misconduct. ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <nelhatch@hills.net> To: "HATCHERLIST" <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 7:19 PM Subject: [HATCHER] For our Quaker Hatchers.......... > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D > Greenwood > > Gee-golly!! I think I just found something majorly important - a Death > Cert for Joseph Hatcher............ > > This Joseph died in Philadelphia 1808, age 65 yrs (bn c1743). > > Coincidently, our Wm/Ann VanSant just happens to have a son, Joseph, bn > c1743. Except I see not one bit of evidence that they had a son named > Joseph. > > All their kids have circa dates so were not recorded in the Quaker > records. Wm, in 1781, wrote his will naming all kids except Joseph. > > Wm removed to LoudounCo,. VA, in 1755 and none of his children returned to > PA except this Joseph. Why? Because he never left Philly? > > In addition, in 1718 we have a William Hatcher witnessing a will in > Philly. Our Wm was bn c1705 and should be too young to be this witness > unless he's older than we think. But that's not all. > > Another deed dated 1726 in Philly has Wm selling land that had been owned > by Joseph Hatcher in 1724. Again, I don't believe this is Wm bn 1705 but > two older men with one of them possibly the father of our Wm. > > We do know we have unconnected Hatchers (bn mid-late 1700s) in Philly and > coming out of NJ (BurlingtonCo) directly across the river from Philly with > a few of these NJ Hatchers living and dying in Philly. > > My own thinking is that the older Wm and Joseph should be the fathers of > Wm plus a number of these other (clearly Quaker) Hatchers. > > Does anyone have anything at all resembling proof that Wm/Ann had a son > Joseph? > > Nel > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Paul, I can see a problem here. I've pulled up Hinshaw's Encyc records and this is the exact entry. HATCHER, Joseph, gct Darby MM, Pa. 29-11-1761. Several entries for William are below showing Wm and his younger children (unnamed) recrq 1754. Wife Ann and dau Mary recrq 2 mos later. Then Wm "violates the chastity of Rachel Tanner 1758." He was restored on condition in Feb 1759. Wm's continuing problems are much as Hiatt laid out. But nothing says Joseph is a son of William, there is no mention of apprenticeship, nor do we even know how old this Joseph was. I'm not sure what Hiatt was reading in these MM minutes but his rendering of events and data seems to contain much more elaboration than what Hinshaw recorded......and I am aware of the solid rep Hinshaw has for accuracy. So......not sure what's going on here :-( Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Gee-golly!! I think I just found something majorly important - a Death Cert for Joseph Hatcher............ This Joseph died in Philadelphia 1808, age 65 yrs (bn c1743). Coincidently, our Wm/Ann VanSant just happens to have a son, Joseph, bn c1743. Except I see not one bit of evidence that they had a son named Joseph. All their kids have circa dates so were not recorded in the Quaker records. Wm, in 1781, wrote his will naming all kids except Joseph. Wm removed to LoudounCo,. VA, in 1755 and none of his children returned to PA except this Joseph. Why? Because he never left Philly? In addition, in 1718 we have a William Hatcher witnessing a will in Philly. Our Wm was bn c1705 and should be too young to be this witness unless he's older than we think. But that's not all. Another deed dated 1726 in Philly has Wm selling land that had been owned by Joseph Hatcher in 1724. Again, I don't believe this is Wm bn 1705 but two older men with one of them possibly the father of our Wm. We do know we have unconnected Hatchers (bn mid-late 1700s) in Philly and coming out of NJ (BurlingtonCo) directly across the river from Philly with a few of these NJ Hatchers living and dying in Philly. My own thinking is that the older Wm and Joseph should be the fathers of Wm plus a number of these other (clearly Quaker) Hatchers. Does anyone have anything at all resembling proof that Wm/Ann had a son Joseph? Nel

Hello Hatcher friends, Is there someone on this list who is willing to work with me to gain access to NC records at the state archives. I have had a brick wall with regards to my Perkins line, but it appears I have connected them to a Perkins family who was in/from Richmond county for a time. Apparently I am needing access to the deed records and loose estate papers and can access them from the archives, but I am from out of state and they handle research requests differently with in state versus out of state residents. Thanks for any and all assistance, Sue sodixey@hotmail.com

Hi Sue, I am very interesting in the names of those you are looking for in Dallas County, Al. I am searching for Hatchers. James Hatcher in particular. If you are looking for any of this bunch please let me know. Bob Hatcher ----- Original Message ----- From: " Sue Dixey" <sodixey@hotmail.com> To: <HATCHER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:11 AM Subject: [HATCHER] Help with plotting neighbors based on Land patents > Hello Hatcher friends, > > I am presently doing some non Hatcher research and am having little > success. I was hoping someone here might be able to steer me in the right > direction, I feel as though I am not sure what I am doing. > > I am researching my George Perkins who was granted 2 land patents in > Dallas county, AL in December, 1831. This info is on the BLM site. His > land patent was granted with David Tatum who is currently unconnected to > my family. > > I am trying to find any adjoining neighbors based on the plotting of this > Perkins/Tatum land in the county. I have printed off and read the > directions from the BLM site and I just dont get it. > > I am more than happy to do my own research, I just need a little help. > > Someone know how to do this and would help me get around my brain > freeze??? > > Thanks kindly for ANY help. I get the digest mode of this list so any help > emailed to me directly is appreciated. Have a good one. > > Sue Dixey > sodixey@hotmail.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Hatcher friends, I am presently doing some non Hatcher research and am having little success. I was hoping someone here might be able to steer me in the right direction, I feel as though I am not sure what I am doing. I am researching my George Perkins who was granted 2 land patents in Dallas county, AL in December, 1831. This info is on the BLM site. His land patent was granted with David Tatum who is currently unconnected to my family. I am trying to find any adjoining neighbors based on the plotting of this Perkins/Tatum land in the county. I have printed off and read the directions from the BLM site and I just dont get it. I am more than happy to do my own research, I just need a little help. Someone know how to do this and would help me get around my brain freeze??? Thanks kindly for ANY help. I get the digest mode of this list so any help emailed to me directly is appreciated. Have a good one. Sue Dixey sodixey@hotmail.com

Nel and Group, Some of you on this list live in the vicinity of East Texas and might be able to scrap up enough coins to get enough gas to come to Lufkin to come research with us at FREE Gen. Workshop on Saturday morning, June 7. See details below. This is the most active list to which I subscribe. Gas went from $3.68 to $3.75 yesterday in a matter of hours. I am still looking to prove the parents of one of my 2-great grandmothers, Frances _?_ b. c. 1842, who was living in the household of Alfred Hatcher b.c. 1800 d.c. 1868 Edgefield District, South Carolina, on the 1850 and 1860 census of Edgefield District, South Carolina. A suit in equity in the 1870's claimed that he had no children. Vivian Cates, Alto, Texas http://www.inu.net/vcates FREE . . . FREE . . . FREE . . . FREE HANDS-ON GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH WORKSHOP COME RESEARCH WITH US!!! Get FREE individual help with your research problems Saturday morning June 7, 2008, 9 a.m.-12:30 p.m. Ora McMullen Genealogy Room, Kurth Memorial Library, 706 S. Raguet Street,Lufkin, Texas Sponsored by Angelina County Genealogical Society in cooperation with Kurth Memorial Library Staff Get free individual one on one help and free research consultations with experienced genealogical researchers about your genealogy research problems from the membership of the Angelina County Genealogical Society. Informal atmosphere, no formal presentations. Come for an hour or two or stay the entire time to do your own research or to help others. Call the library to sign up at 1-936-630-0563 later this week when the library phones are working again. Phone outage due to lightening strike in area near the library last week. Advanced sign up is desired for planning purposes, but not required. Only paper and pencils are allowed in the research area. No food, drinks,or smoking in the library. Ladies should wear clothing with pockets and/or a "VERY SMALL fanny pack" for the essentials of keys, wallets, ID's, change for copy machine (takes quarters), etc. as locker space is very limited. New beginning researchers are especially welcome to attend. It would be extremely helpful, but not absolutely necessary, if just beginning researchers, could have at least one surname and a general location where their family lived in 1930 or earlier, particularly if their family was not living in Angelina County in 1930. If the June research event is successful, another one will be held on Saturday, August 2, 2008, and perhaps in October. October is being observed as Family History Month. List members, PLEASE pass this notice/announcement along to other e-mail lists or e-mail groups where members might have an interest in attending this absolutely FREE workshop. Vivian T. Cates, Alto, Texas, ACGS Workshop committee member 858-3801

Down hyar in ol' Kaintuck, we'uns call that stuff "sorghum molasses"! You are right - - it shore is fine! I stood around watching my family make that sorghum molasses, but they never let me have nary a dipper-full! Maybe a finger-lick, that's all! We like it on hot buttered cornbread, too!. Good follow-up to a bowl of pinto bean soup with onions. (Oh darn, now I've got to go get something to eat before I go to bed.) I am fat enough without you Hatcher folks whettin' my appetite like that! Martha, born and raised in Green Co. KY ----- Original Message ----- From: "William W. Hatcher Sr." <thehatchers@alltel.net> To: <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 10:29 PM Subject: [HATCHER] FW: Sugar Cane.. > Thought some might like to read about the good memories of cane syrup > cooking time in the south??? > > > > Enjoy, > > > > William W. Hatcher Sr. > > Milledgeville, Ga. > > * Phone: 478-454-3468 > > God Bless America! > > > > Muscogee County GaArchives News.....Eating Sugar Cane a Pleasure > > By Sara Spano > Staff Writer > > I think that some of the happiest times in my whole childhood were in > the > > fall of the year. In the small country town where I lived, cotton was > picked > > and ginned, and sugar cane was made into syrup. > I used to ride with my father all over the big planation. When the cane > began to ripen, he would stop and cut a few stalks. I would then be > permitted > to drive the horse while he peeled the cane, and we'd eat it as we went > along. > I can't remember anything that ever tasted any better unless it was the > sardines and crackers we'd have for lunch. > Being far from home he'd stop at a small country store and buy two cans > of > > sardines and a box of soda crackers. We'd eat these washing them down with > drinks of cool creek water out of his black derby hat. (Isn't it wonderful > how > well one survived germs in those days?) > When we went to the cane mill, I always elected to stay there while he > went > on somewhere else. I felt a deep sympathy for the poor mule who, hitched > to > the > long pole that turned the mill, went round and round all day long. > The stalks of cane were inserted in the mill, where all the juice was > pressed > from them, and then they were tossed aside. The juice ran out into a big > wooden > barrel and I always managed to drink > several large dippersful during my stay. I invariably got sick from my > tasting > spree and my mother > would fuss and fret and threaten not to let me go again. > I also took a great interest in the syrup making, which took place a few > yards from the mill. > The juice was put in a large vat, under which a roaring fire was kept > going. > Someone had to stand there all the time and skim off the top of the > boiling > juice with a big tin dipper. What he took off he poured over into a > barrel. > These were called "skimmings." > Let me tell you one thing, after standing a few days this was potent > stuff. > And unless my father stood right there and made the workers pour it out, > the > > result was a lot of singing and cavorting around in the streets on > Saturday > night. One good glass of "skimmings" was as effective as a pint of the > best > > moonshine whiskey, and a lot cheaper too. > Even at an early age, I was determined to live life to the fullest. One > day, > waiting until the man at the vat turned his head, I hastily drank down > about > > half a dipper of the "skimmings." When my father returned to pick me up I > was > reclining, full-length. upon a pile of cane stalks. We both caught it when > we > got home. My mother had plenty to say about a father who returned home > with > an > intoxicated nine-yearold daughter. > We always brought back a jug of the syrup. Nothing, absolutely nothing, > tastes better for breakfast than enormous feather light hot biscuits, > ozzing > > butter and covered with fresh cane syrup. > > > Special Sesquicentennial Supplement II > Ledger- Enquirer, Sunday, April 23, 1978. S-30. > > > File at: > http://files.usgwarchives.org/ga/muscogee/newspapers/eatingsu2249gnw.txt > > This file has been created by a form at http://www.genrecords.org/gafiles/ > > File size: 3.6 Kb > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1454 - Release Date: > 5/19/2008 > 7:44 AM > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1454 - Release Date: > 5/19/2008 7:44 AM > >

I remember when my family went over to our friend's house where they were cooking cane sugar. They had his mule hooked up to the grinder and us kids (I was about 12 then; 57 now) were fascinated by the whole process. We loved to grab a piece of cane, cut into it and chew on some of the smaller chips. I guess us kids weren't allowed near the cooker or skimmer since I didn't know about the "after effects" :) We'd always end up with a few jugs of the syrup, and it's truly awesome. I've never tasted better since! Mary from rural Florida William W. Hatcher Sr. wrote: > Thought some might like to read about the good memories of cane syrup > cooking time in the south??? > > > > Enjoy, > > > > William W. Hatcher Sr. > > Milledgeville, Ga. > > * Phone: 478-454-3468 > > God Bless America! > > > > Muscogee County GaArchives News.....Eating Sugar Cane a Pleasure > > By Sara Spano > Staff Writer > > I think that some of the happiest times in my whole childhood were in the > > fall of the year. In the small country town where I lived, cotton was picked > > and ginned, and sugar cane was made into syrup. > I used to ride with my father all over the big planation. When the cane > began to ripen, he would stop and cut a few stalks. I would then be > permitted > to drive the horse while he peeled the cane, and we'd eat it as we went > along. > I can't remember anything that ever tasted any better unless it was the > sardines and crackers we'd have for lunch. > Being far from home he'd stop at a small country store and buy two cans of > > sardines and a box of soda crackers. We'd eat these washing them down with > drinks of cool creek water out of his black derby hat. (Isn't it wonderful > how > well one survived germs in those days?) > When we went to the cane mill, I always elected to stay there while he > went > on somewhere else. I felt a deep sympathy for the poor mule who, hitched to > the > long pole that turned the mill, went round and round all day long. > The stalks of cane were inserted in the mill, where all the juice was > pressed > from them, and then they were tossed aside. The juice ran out into a big > wooden > barrel and I always managed to drink > several large dippersful during my stay. I invariably got sick from my > tasting > spree and my mother > would fuss and fret and threaten not to let me go again. > I also took a great interest in the syrup making, which took place a few > yards from the mill. > The juice was put in a large vat, under which a roaring fire was kept going. > Someone had to stand there all the time and skim off the top of the boiling > juice with a big tin dipper. What he took off he poured over into a barrel. > These were called "skimmings." > Let me tell you one thing, after standing a few days this was potent > stuff. > And unless my father stood right there and made the workers pour it out, the > > result was a lot of singing and cavorting around in the streets on Saturday > night. One good glass of "skimmings" was as effective as a pint of the best > > moonshine whiskey, and a lot cheaper too. > Even at an early age, I was determined to live life to the fullest. One > day, > waiting until the man at the vat turned his head, I hastily drank down about > > half a dipper of the "skimmings." When my father returned to pick me up I > was > reclining, full-length. upon a pile of cane stalks. We both caught it when > we > got home. My mother had plenty to say about a father who returned home with > an > intoxicated nine-yearold daughter. > We always brought back a jug of the syrup. Nothing, absolutely nothing, > tastes better for breakfast than enormous feather light hot biscuits, ozzing > > butter and covered with fresh cane syrup. > > > Special Sesquicentennial Supplement II > Ledger- Enquirer, Sunday, April 23, 1978. S-30. > > > File at: > http://files.usgwarchives.org/ga/muscogee/newspapers/eatingsu2249gnw.txt > > This file has been created by a form at http://www.genrecords.org/gafiles/ > > File size: 3.6 Kb > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1454 - Release Date: 5/19/2008 > 7:44 AM > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thought some might like to read about the good memories of cane syrup cooking time in the south??? Enjoy, William W. Hatcher Sr. Milledgeville, Ga. * Phone: 478-454-3468 God Bless America! Muscogee County GaArchives News.....Eating Sugar Cane a Pleasure By Sara Spano Staff Writer I think that some of the happiest times in my whole childhood were in the fall of the year. In the small country town where I lived, cotton was picked and ginned, and sugar cane was made into syrup. I used to ride with my father all over the big planation. When the cane began to ripen, he would stop and cut a few stalks. I would then be permitted to drive the horse while he peeled the cane, and we'd eat it as we went along. I can't remember anything that ever tasted any better unless it was the sardines and crackers we'd have for lunch. Being far from home he'd stop at a small country store and buy two cans of sardines and a box of soda crackers. We'd eat these washing them down with drinks of cool creek water out of his black derby hat. (Isn't it wonderful how well one survived germs in those days?) When we went to the cane mill, I always elected to stay there while he went on somewhere else. I felt a deep sympathy for the poor mule who, hitched to the long pole that turned the mill, went round and round all day long. The stalks of cane were inserted in the mill, where all the juice was pressed from them, and then they were tossed aside. The juice ran out into a big wooden barrel and I always managed to drink several large dippersful during my stay. I invariably got sick from my tasting spree and my mother would fuss and fret and threaten not to let me go again. I also took a great interest in the syrup making, which took place a few yards from the mill. The juice was put in a large vat, under which a roaring fire was kept going. Someone had to stand there all the time and skim off the top of the boiling juice with a big tin dipper. What he took off he poured over into a barrel. These were called "skimmings." Let me tell you one thing, after standing a few days this was potent stuff. And unless my father stood right there and made the workers pour it out, the result was a lot of singing and cavorting around in the streets on Saturday night. One good glass of "skimmings" was as effective as a pint of the best moonshine whiskey, and a lot cheaper too. Even at an early age, I was determined to live life to the fullest. One day, waiting until the man at the vat turned his head, I hastily drank down about half a dipper of the "skimmings." When my father returned to pick me up I was reclining, full-length. upon a pile of cane stalks. We both caught it when we got home. My mother had plenty to say about a father who returned home with an intoxicated nine-yearold daughter. We always brought back a jug of the syrup. Nothing, absolutely nothing, tastes better for breakfast than enormous feather light hot biscuits, ozzing butter and covered with fresh cane syrup. Special Sesquicentennial Supplement II Ledger- Enquirer, Sunday, April 23, 1978. S-30. File at: http://files.usgwarchives.org/ga/muscogee/newspapers/eatingsu2249gnw.txt This file has been created by a form at http://www.genrecords.org/gafiles/ File size: 3.6 Kb No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1454 - Release Date: 5/19/2008 7:44 AM

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Keep it down, you guys! I'm trying to sleep! And don't leave crumbs all over the kitchen, hear?? :-) Nel

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: margerice1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.hatcher/1854/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have an original Cabinet Card photograph of Ida Hatcher", which I'd like to get back to descendants or family members. Photo was taken about 1890 in Garden City (Finney Co.) Kansas, and she looks to be about age 10. I found the family of Ida Hatcher in the 1900 census of Garden City, KS, and her birthdate was listed as March 1878 in KY, and parents were Eugene M. Hatcher and wife Madie Hatcher. Get back to me at margerice@prodigy.net if you are related to Ida Hatcher. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thanks, Nel. Puts my mind at ease that it is going to be done and I don't have to do it. :) > Lorelle, > > Not to worry! We do have volunteers ready and willing. And Patsy has already > taken a hunk out of our list of library books to check. She's offered to > finish off the rest that are available at her library so it looks like we'll > have a shorter list to work from in a week or so. > > Nel > ************** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

Hi Nel, I want so much to help with this but I just can't right now. My husband, Mike, is on home hemodialysis, so I have to spend about 3 hours every night setting that up, putting in the needles, programming the machine, monitoring the treatment, disconnecting, removing needles, and all of the paperwork for the clinic and Medicare. Since he has not worked but a few weeks since Oct of '05, I have to keep my business at max as much as possible -- just not enough hours in the day. That being said, IF there is no one else in SC willing to do this, please let me know. I still have not filed our 2007 income tax -- we got an extension -- but as soon as I get that done (we have until Aug 15) I will do this IF no one else will. Your work is too important for this not to get done. Best regards, Lorelle Hatcher Blackwell (BTW, my father, Joseph William Hatcher, turned 90 on Apr 7 - he walks with a limp, uses a cane, but is sharp as a tack and is still a tale spinner extrordinaire.) > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood > > Do we have any SC residents willing to fill out and submit research requests > to the SCDAH? > > The request form is at http://www.state.sc.us/scdah/referenceform.htm > > I will provide the names and details of those we're searching for. You would > be responsible for communicating to me what they've found and what the cost > will be for copies. After determining what we need (we may already have some > of what they find), you will then place the order and the HFGA will reimburse > you for all costs, including postage to mail everything to me. > > Anyone want to get on this list?? > > Thanks! > Nel > ************** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Lorelle, Not to worry! We do have volunteers ready and willing. And Patsy has already taken a hunk out of our list of library books to check. She's offered to finish off the rest that are available at her library so it looks like we'll have a shorter list to work from in a week or so. Nel

Several cemeteries have been photographed and linked. I have created a page for them and moved them to their own page. There is a link on the main page http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaboteto/botetot.html scroll to "Cemetery Page", or click here: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaboteto/CemeteryPage.html If you would like to volunteer to photograph headstones, or if you already have photos of headstones not yet posted, please send them as digital images to the Botetourt Genealogy Club; P O Box 1148; Buchanan, Va 24066. Several volunteers have been assigned cemeteries, and have not yet turned in photographs, so please get in touch with me before you photograph cemeteries, so that you do not duplicate effort. My address is doreatr@rbnet.com. Springwood Baptist Church & Copps Cemetery has been photographed, and being prepared to post. If you have notes on individuals already posted that should be added, please send them, and they will be reviewed for addition. Rena Founder & President Botetourt Genealogy Club Librarians Assistant Fincastle Library Web Adminstrator http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaboteto/botetot.html

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Thanks, Brenda! Will add you to the list. Nel

Nel, I could search for NC Hatchers but can't for a month or more because of a project I am working on. I would have to go to the genealogy room at the NC Archives in Raleigh. There are hatchers living in Johnston and Person Counties. I will be happy to check all of NC when I am free. Brenda McKean -----Original Message----- From: hatcher-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hatcher-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of nelhatch Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 5:19 PM To: hatcher@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Another angle on SC research....... HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Ed and all, Without question we will have charges for much of what we do, whether it's a professional researcher or library/archive costs. But we have mucho $$ in our HFGA fund that I'm trying hard to find some ways to productively spend it. And I just rec'd a PayPal notice of another Hatcher who bought a $30 membership. Like I said, can't find ways to spend it fast enough :-) But one thing I would like from those of you with NC or SC "problem Hatchers" is for you to give me suggestions of counties to search. I've already added DarlingtonCo to the list for Patsy who has an Unc family there. I've got many stray Hatchers in these two states and I do admit I can't just remember all of them off the top of my head......so all suggestions welcome! Actually, ANY suggestions y'all have could be helpful. Nel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Cuzins, I've heard back from Brent Holcomb who wants a list of the books to search. Since there are SO many of them, I thought that we might get many of them searched by volunteers from NC, SC, and GA who have access to bigger libraries. Other states that have good geney libraries would likely also have these books. Below is a very LONG list. If you'd like to volunteer, select the group of books you want to work with or tell me how many you want. It's a simple (and possibly boring) project. Take a bag of paper clips with you. Find the books. Check the index for Hatcher, MILAM and HAY or HAYS. If you find any refs, go to the page(s) and paper clip them. When you've finished, get copies of all your paper-clipped pages. Make sure the pertinent info does not continue on the next page. If it does, copy both pages. ALSO, make sure the title of the book and page number is on the page. If not, hand write it. This is very important so that we have the proper sourcing Keep track of your copying costs. Mail the copies to me and I will reimburse you for your expenses. Easy, huh? Warning! Not all of these books are authored by Brent so find them by title. You may or may not find a single reference to our names (now THAT's boring) but we will at least know what's been searched. My other list for Brent will be for locations where I would expect to find our names and where I would expect to have more work for Brent. Cheers, Nel --------------------------------------- Abbeville District, South Carolina, Newspaper Notices of Land Cases and Sales 1836-1872 by Lowry Ware Abstracts of the Wills of the State of South Carolina 1670-1740. Abstracts of the Wills of the State of South Carolina 1740-1760. Abstracts of the Wills of the State of South Carolina 1760-1784 Abstracts of the Wills of Charleston District, South Carolina 1783-1800. Abstracts of Records of the Secretary of the Province of South Carolina 1692-1721. Associate Reformed Presbyterian Death and Marriage Notices From The Christian Magazine of the South, The Erskine Miscellany, and the Due West Telescope 1843- 1863 by Lowry Ware Associate Reformed Presbyterian Death & Marriage Notices Volume II: 1866-1888 by Lowry Ware Chester County, South Carolina Will Abstracts 1787-1838 [1776-1838]. Chester County, South Carolina, Deed Abstracts, volume I: 1785-1799 [1768-1799] Deed Book A-F Chester County, SC, Minutes of the County Court 1785-1799 Death and Marriage Notices from the Watchman and Observer 1845-1855 Deed Abstracts of Tryon, Lincoln, and Rutherford Counties, North Carolina 1769-1786 Tryon County Wills and Estates Marriage and Death Notices from the Charleston Observer 1827-1845 Marriage and Death Notices from the Charleston, South Carolina, Mercury 1822-1832 Marriage and Death Notices from Baptist Newspapers of South Carolina 1835-1865 $25.00 Marriage and Death Notices from Baptist Newspapers of South Carolina, Volume 2: 1866-1887 Marriage and Death Notices from Columbia, South Carolina, Newspapers 1838-1860 (including legal notices from burnt counties) Marriage and Death Notices from Upper South Carolina Newspapers 1843-1865 $28.50 Marriage, Death, and Estate Notices from Georgetown, South Carolina, Newspapers 1791-1861 Marriage and Death Notices from the Up-Country of South Carolina as taken from Greenville newspapers 1826-1863 Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, Will Abstracts 1763-1790 Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, Deed Abstracts 1763-1779 (published by Southern Historical Press) Newberry County South Carolina Deed Abstracts, Volume II: Deed Books C, D-2 and D 1794-1800 [1765-1800] Newberry County South Carolina Deed Abstracts, Volume III: Deed Books E through H 1800-1806 [1767-1806 Newberry County, South Carolina, Minutes of the County Court Newberry County, South Carolina, Deed Abstracts Volume I: Deed Books A-B 1785-1794 (1751-1794 South Carolina's Royal Grants, Volume One: Books 1 through 9, 1731-1761. South Carolina's Royal Grants, Volume Two: Grant Books 10 through 17 1760-1768. South Carolina's Royal Grants, Volume Three: Grant Books 18 through 24 1768-1773 South Carolina Revolutionary War Indents: A Schedule by John Lennell Andrews, Jr. Spartanburg County, South Carolina, Will Abstracts 1787-1840 Spartanburgh County, SC, Minutes of the County Court 1785-1799 Tryon County, North Carolina, Minutes of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions 1769-1779 UNION COUNTY, SOUTH CAROLINA, DEED ABSTRACTS, VOLUME I Union County South Carolina Deed Abstracts, Volume II: Deed Books G-K 1800-1811 [1769-1811] Union County South Carolina Deed Abstracts, Volume III: Deed Books L-P 1811-1820 [1770-1820] Union County, South Carolina Deed Abstracts Volume IV Union County South Carolina Deed Abstracts, Volume V: 1828-1835 [1778-1835] Deed Books T-W Union County, South Carolina, Will Abstracts 1787-1849 Union County, SC, Minutes of the County Court 1785-1799 York County, South Carolina, Will Abstracts 1787-1862 York County, SC, Minutes of the County Court 1786-1797 by Laurence K. Wells York County South Carolina Deed Abstracts, Volume I: 1786-1801 [1772-1801] Deed Books A-E