HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Folks, I believe I can prove that Richard Thatcher was not a Hatcher. Here is what I've found......... 1681 - Holmes' map showing land of Richard Thatcher near Dilworth and Paxton. Richard Thatcher was one of the original settlers in 1681-82 of Penn's project. 1689 - Richard Hatcher/Thatcher living in BucksCo near Dilworth and Hayworth. This is the same ref sent by Ray that listed Richard as Hatcher. That's an error and should be Thatcher. 1697 - Richard Thatcher's will probated, sons Bartholomew, Amos, Joseph, 2 daus in care of Wm & Henry Paxton. Witnesses to will were Tom Stackhouse and Israel Taylor who can also be found as neighbors on the original 1681 map. So Richard never moved from his original location near Dilsworth and Paxton and his sons are ID'd in his will. Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Here's what I'm finding on the Haines family......... Shirley's Abraham Haines/Hannah Rakestraw was s/o Abraham Sr and brother of Carlile Haines who was the father of our Levi Haines, the father of Mahlon Haines who md Rachel Hatcher, d/o Wm/Mary Smith. This Haines family had long roots in BurlingtonCo, NJ going back to at least 1700, Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Joseph, I will assume you are new to these Rootsweb lists and are unaware that commercial advertising or solicitation is prohibited. Please do not do this again. Nel

Here is the information on Abraham Haines who married Hannah Rakestraw. I have more on the Rakestraws and will send it as soon as I have time. Abram or Abraham Haines b. 14 Oct 1748, Evesham, Burlington, NJ, son of Abraham Haines and Sarah Ellis??m. Hannah Rakestraw 28 Dec 1772. Hannah b. 26 Jun 1749, Burlington NJ dau. of Thomas Rakestraw and Mary Mason. Children: 1. Nehr or Ner b. 9 Sep 1773, Evesham, Burlington, NJ d. 7 Jul 1833, Waynesville, Warren, Ohio. Nehr m. Elizabeth Jones 1 Jan 1801. 2. Bethuel b. 24 Jul 1775, Evesham, Burlington, NJ d.10 Oct 1823, buried in Friends Buriel Ground, Easton, Burlington, NJ. Bethuel m. Rachel Wilkins abt 1801 Evesham. Rachel b. 7 Apr 1788,?Burlington, d. Feb1847.Rachel was the dau. of Wilson Wilkins and Sarah Ballinger.???Had 5 children. 3. Abraham b. 9 Aug 1777, Evesham, m. Mary Jones 9 Feb 1804, dau. of Samuel Jones and _________Peacock. Mary b. abt. 1783, Burlington. Had 7 children. 4. Thomas Haines b. 12 Sep 1779, Evesham, m. Mary _______ 24 Feb 1803, Evesham. Mary ________also married Josiah Haines b. 1773, son of Isaac Haines and Catherine Davis or David. 5. Hannah b. 28 Oct 1781, Evesham, d. 14 Sep 1862. Hannah m. Isaac Ballinger abt 1801, Evesham. Isaac was son of Samuel Ballinger and Elizabeth Groff. 6. Ellis Haines b. 20 Feb 1784, Evesham. No further info. 7. Asa Haines b. 15 Mar 1786, Evesham. No further info. 8. Isaac Haines b. 16 Nov 1788, Evesham m. Alice Ann Mason 30 Mar 1814, Burlington. 9. Mary E. Haines b. 12 Feb 1791, Evesham, No further info. 10. Sarah b. 21 Feb 1794, Evesham. No further info.

I don't have any Nicholas and only 1 Edmond-Edmund (born about 1848) Hatchers in the Quaker Hatchers. If my William Hatcher descended from them it is odd that the names didn't carry down at all. > I'm afraid Gary got me going and I went back to the online Dorset parish > records. And I'm quite sure they've added much more since I last surfed > it. Below are the records I found and the names just jump out at you..... > > Is Wm, s/o John-Dina, our Quaker Wm? > Is Joseph, s/o Edmund, the Joseph of the 1726 BucksCo deed? > > But isn't Nicholas too old to be the bondsman for the Mary Hatcher Sands > wedding of 1747? And he appears not to have had a dau Mary. > > Is Wm above really ours or is he the Wm further below who md Mary c1722? > If so, he wasn't in America witnessing a deed in 1718. > > Have we struck out here? > > Nel > _____________________ > > > William son of John & Dina HACHER baptised 14-May 1700 (PR) > Elizabeth daughter of John & Dina HACHER baptised 10-Jul 1702 (PR) > > Richard son of Edmond & Rebeca HACHER baptised 03-Jan 1700 (PR) > Joseph son of Edmond & Rebeca HACHER baptised 25-Jan 1702 (PR > Thomas son of Edmond & Rebeca HACHER baptised 03-Jan 1704 (PR) > George son of Edmond & Rebecca HACHER baptised 19-Nov 1705 (PR) > > Robert son of Nicholas & Anne HACHER baptised 14-Sep 1701 (PR) > John son of Nicholas & Anne HACHER baptised 30-Mar 1703 (PR > Richard son of Nicholas & Anne HACHER baptised 27-Dec 1705 (PR) > John son of Nicholas & Ann HACHER baptised 20-Aug 1708 (PR > > Mary daughter of Frrancis & [blank] HACHER baptised 13-Feb 1702 (PR > Mary daughter of Ffrancis & Mary HACHER baptised 06-Jun 1704 (PR > Ann daughter of Ffrancis & Mary HACHER baptised 13-Feb 1705 (PR > William son of Ffrancis & Mary HACHER baptised 21-Feb 1707 (PR > John son of Ffrancis & Mary HACHER baptised 11-Nov 1711 (PR > Sarah daughter of Ffrancis & Mary HACHER baptised 24-Oct 1714 (PR) > Jane daughter of Francis & Mary HATCHER baptised 27-Jan 1717 (PR) > > Hannah daughter of Thomas & Hannah HACHER baptised 21-Dec 1710 (PR > Eideth daughter of Thomas & Hannah HACHER baptised 27-Nov 1712 (PR > Mary daughter of Thomas & Hannah HACHER baptised 10-Feb 1713 (PR > George son of Thomas & Hannah HACHER baptised 09-Apr 1717 (PR > > Edith daughter of Richard & Mary HACHER baptised 04-Mar 1710 (PR > John son of Richard & Mary HACHER baptised 31-Mar 1712 (PR > Thomas son of Richard & Mary HACHER baptised 26-Dec 1713 (PR > Bettey daughter of Richard & Mary HACHER baptised 10-Jan 1715 (PR) > Richard son of Richard & Mary HATCHER baptised 17-Jul 1718 (PR) > Sarah daughter of Richard & Mary HATCHER baptised 22-Mar 1720 ( > > John Hacher son of Edward & Joan ROADS baptised 18-Nov 1714 (PR) (HUH?) > > Edmund son of Edmund & Anne HATCHER baptised 01-Jan 1717 (PR > Joseph son of Edmond & Anne HATCHER baptised 31-Oct 1719 (PR > Hanah daughter of Edmond & Ann HATCHER baptised 15-Feb 1721 (PR > Edmund son of Edmund & Anne HATCHER baptised 14-Mar 1723 (PR > > Hanah daughter of William & Mary HATCHER baptised 22-Aug 1723 (PR > > Mary base born daughter of Ann HATCHER baptized 30-Aug 1725 > > Mary daughter of Richard & Rachell HATCHER baptised 22-Oct 1722 > Annover daughter of Richard & Rachaell HATCHER baptized 20-Feb 1724 > Rachael daughter of Richard & Rachael HATCHER baptized 04-Dec 1727 > > Honour daughter of George & Hannah Hatcher baptised 07-Apr 1735 (BT& > William son of George & Hannah Hatcher baptised 07-Dec 1736 (BT&PR > Hannah daughter of George & Hannah Hatcher baptised 17-Jan 1742 (BT&PR > > Mary daughter of Thomas & Elizabeth Hatcher baptised 01-Jan 1738 > Mary daughter of Thomas & Elizabeth Hatcher baptised 06-Feb 1739 > Richard son of Thomas & Elizabeth Hatcher baptised 30-Jan 1743 (BT) > 1742 Mary base born daughter of Elizabeth Lambert baptised 28-Feb father > Thomas HATCHER > > 1743 Margery daughter of John & Mary Hatcher baptised 15-Nov (BT > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Thanks, Shirley! And no rush - take your time on the Rakestraws. I've got plenty to work on at the moment....... Nel

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HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Paul, I agree with you about the name Nicholas. But we have such limited info on him that it's not even possible to know when he was born. As a bondsman for Mary Hatcher's wedding (1747) to Sands, was he a brother or her father? I do know that in looking at records for families in Bensalem, I find Nicholas a common name in many of them. That leads to the possibility that Nicholas was named for his mother's father. If he had no sons of his own, we would not see that name passed down in the Hatchers. And since it's not possible that Nick could be Wm's father, their relationship would not be direct line so no reason to see Nicholas used in the descendants of Wm. Nel

Rena, should Lucy have died while visiting a child, or because she was being cared for by her child in their home, her death certificate would have been in that state. Have you checked for the locations of each of their children. I had this happen to one of my Barrow Ancestors and it took forever to get a date of death. (Her grave have no dates) It took a long time to track it down. Winnette

I am searching for the death certificate of Lucy Ellen Fisher 30 Sep 1840 03 Jul 1929 w/o Eden T. Hatcher. I had her death in Montgomery County, Va. Nel has it as NC. Lucy is interred in the Auburn Community Cemetery along side her husband Eden T. Hatcher. I have not found a DC in either place. I checked the Sept & Oct reels of Death Cert's in the Library of Virginia in Richmond, and the North Carolina Death Certificates, 1909-1975 on line at www.ancestry.com Do any of you have a copy you can share with me. Thank's Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com

FYI for anyone going to this area. Winn Carolina Room Extends Research Hours Night Before Scots-Irish Workshop The Robinson-Spangler Carolina Room of the Public Library of Charlotte and Mecklenburg County, 310 North Tryon, Charlotte, NC will be open from 9:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. on Friday, July 25, 2008. Additionally, staff will assist visitors with research, provide free copies of research from microfilm and photocopy machines, and supply light refreshments from 6 p.m. to 10 p.m. Researchers will also have access to Ancestry.com Library Edition. and Heritage Quest. Laptops are welcome, and the building has Wi-Fi. The extended hours are offered to accommodate researchers, especially early arrivals for the July 26th workshop "From Ulster to the Carolinas: Finding Your Scots-Irish Ancestors" sponsored by the North Carolina Genealogical Society & the Olde Mecklenburg Genealogical Society. The presenter will be David E. Rencher, AG, CG, FIGRS, FUGA, Director of the Records and Information Division of the Family and Church History Department of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Salt Lake City. The library will resume regular hours from 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. on July 26th. For further information contact: Conference: "From Ulster to the Carolinas: Finding Your Scots-Irish Ancestors" – email info@ncgenealogy.org Robinson-Spangler Carolina Room, Public Library of Charlotte and Mecklenburg County: 704-416-0150 or email ncr@plcmc.org. -- North Carolina Genealogical Society Publicity Committee

I will send it just as soon as I double check it. Want to make sure it's right. -----Original Message----- From: nelhatch <nelhatch@hills.net> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 1:27 pm Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Van Sant's and Hatchers HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Shirley, You're coming thru loud and clear now......and here's the Rakestraw ref. Wills: Abstracts, Book D : 1714 - 1725/6: Philadelphia Co, PA RAKESTRAW, WILLIAM. Philadelphia. Malster. December 29, 1718. February 2, 1718. D. 113. Wife Elizabeth. Children: John, Grace (ZANE), Elizabeth, Sarah, Ann, Mary, William and Thomas. Grand-son Joseph Rakestraw. Son-in-law Nathaniel Zane. Executors: William and Thomas. Trustees: William Hudson, William Tidmarsh and Thomas Chalkley. Witnesses: Tobias Nilee, William Hatcher and John Cadwalader. Grace Rakestraw md Nathaniel Zane. We now find an Albert Zane in NJ connected to a Rachel Hatcher. And Pennsy Bob has Wm Zane Hatcher as his ancestor. If the above Thomas Rakestraw is your guy, we now have another connection to NJ thru Abe Haines and even more reason to believe that the witness to Rakestraw's will is our Wm/Ann VS. If you could send me the family info on the Rakestraw/Haines line in the 1700-1800 timeframe, I would much appreciate it. I'm also pretty sure I've seen refs to the Bortons in NJ. Yes, this HAS been an enjoyable and also very productive discussion. I'm convinced we're going to solve this sooner or later....hopefully sooner :-) Nel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

-----Original Message----- From: nelhatch <nelhatch@hills.net> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 1:27 pm Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Van Sant's and Hatchers HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Shirley, You're coming thru loud and clear now......and here's the Rakestraw ref. Wills: Abstracts, Book D : 1714 - 1725/6: Philadelphia Co, PA RAKESTRAW, WILLIAM. Philadelphia. Malster. December 29, 1718. February 2, 1718. D. 113. Wife Elizabeth. Children: John, Grace (ZANE), Elizabeth, Sarah, Ann, Mary, William and Thomas. Grand-son Joseph Rakestraw. Son-in-law Nathaniel Zane. Executors: William and Thomas. Trustees: William Hudson, William Tidmarsh and Thomas Chalkley. Witnesses: Tobias Nilee, William Hatcher and John Cadwalader. Grace Rakestraw md Nathaniel Zane. We now find an Albert Zane in NJ connected to a Rachel Hatcher. And Pennsy Bob has Wm Zane Hatcher as his ancestor. If the above Thomas Rakestraw is your guy, we now have another connection to NJ thru Abe Haines and even more reason to believe that the witness to Rakestraw's will is our Wm/Ann VS. If you could send me the family info on the Rakestraw/Haines line in the 1700-1800 timeframe, I would much appreciate it. I'm also pretty sure I've seen refs to the Bortons in NJ. Yes, this HAS been an enjoyable and also very productive discussion. I'm convinced we're going to solve this sooner or later....hopefully sooner :-) Nel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to thank Paul Hatcher for sending?his information to us. I compared my Van Sant records and most of it was the same except for a few names and dates. I also used Davis' "A Genealogical and Personal History of Buck's County" for much of my information. Another site I used which may be the same source as the CD's that Paul used was the "Van Zandt Family Genealogy" I found on a web site. "The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record" also had quite a bit. I thought it interesting that in that publication, the progenitor of all these Van Zandts was not listed as Stoffel or Christoffel but Stofflesz Hermansz. I would be interested to know if Paul or anyone else has an opinion on this. Also, the name Rakestraw has been mentioned. I have Hannah Rakestraw dau. of Thomas Rakestraw and Mary Mason married to Abraham Haines, another familiar name associated with Hatchers and from Burlington, N.J. Jeremiah Rakestraw married Margaret Borton, Josiah Rakestraw married Ann Borton and Josiah Borton married Lydia Rakestraw. All of the Borton's were siblings. A real family affair! I have Ann Ingledue b. 1719, the first dau. of Blackstone Ingledue and Margaret Palmer. The parents were born in England, the children in Philadelphia. Two of the children, Hannah, who married Jacob Janney (another familiar surname) from Bucks County and Sarah who married John Hatcher both died in Loudoun County VA. There were 2 boys in the Ingledue family, Blackstone Jr. and William. I don't have a death date or place for Blackstone but William died when 2 years old. Some of this information comes from "The Descendants of Thomas and Mary (Ludford) Nichols of Staffordshire, England; compiled by Pauline E.Nichols. The Thomas Balch Library in Leesburg, VA copied this information for me. The marriage of William Hatcher and Ann Van Sant is also listed in the Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey. p. 76, Vol. 14 #4. Hope this information is helpful to someone. I have enjoyed the discussions on the Quaker Hatcher's immensely.

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Shirley, You're coming thru loud and clear now......and here's the Rakestraw ref. Wills: Abstracts, Book D : 1714 - 1725/6: Philadelphia Co, PA RAKESTRAW, WILLIAM. Philadelphia. Malster. December 29, 1718. February 2, 1718. D. 113. Wife Elizabeth. Children: John, Grace (ZANE), Elizabeth, Sarah, Ann, Mary, William and Thomas. Grand-son Joseph Rakestraw. Son-in-law Nathaniel Zane. Executors: William and Thomas. Trustees: William Hudson, William Tidmarsh and Thomas Chalkley. Witnesses: Tobias Nilee, William Hatcher and John Cadwalader. Grace Rakestraw md Nathaniel Zane. We now find an Albert Zane in NJ connected to a Rachel Hatcher. And Pennsy Bob has Wm Zane Hatcher as his ancestor. If the above Thomas Rakestraw is your guy, we now have another connection to NJ thru Abe Haines and even more reason to believe that the witness to Rakestraw's will is our Wm/Ann VS. If you could send me the family info on the Rakestraw/Haines line in the 1700-1800 timeframe, I would much appreciate it. I'm also pretty sure I've seen refs to the Bortons in NJ. Yes, this HAS been an enjoyable and also very productive discussion. I'm convinced we're going to solve this sooner or later....hopefully sooner :-) Nel

Nel, All I can say is WOW!! (well, you know me - I can say much more LOL!! but WOW covers it all) As you are coming across any ZANE surnames, just keep in mind the photo of a Nancy Ann Zane, in William Zane Hatcher's photo album. She would be middle aged in the 1860 to 1880 time period. She has to connect at some point. Bob </HTML>

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Bob, I'll be trying to find family data on Albert Zane. Nancy may be his dau or d-i-l. Ed said WOW, too. Must be contagious :-) Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Hey - he's BACK! And brought us a lot of very interesting stuff. So here they are........... 1) HATCHER 1817,6,28. Nelly, of Bush River, rpd mou. Reported Married out of unity. Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy. p543 Vol 1 by Hinshaw * Bush River Monthly Meeting, in Newberry County. SC 2) 1806, Aug 8 Hacker (Hatcher) William, of Woolwich Twsp Gloucester Co. Inventory $526.55; made by William Wood and Albert ZANE. Sworn to by Rachel Hatcher. Adm'x Aug 12,1806, File 2570H New Jersey Archives First Series Vol XL Abstracts of Wills Vol XI 1806-1809 by Elmer Hutchinson (Calendar of Wills 1806-1809) * Heads up, Pennsy Bob! Here's our likely Zane connection. And I've ordered docs on an 1817 NJ court case between Rachel Hatcher and Wm Stokes. Stokes md 1798 to Hannah, who I believe was the widow of a Wm Hatcher. I believe Wm Coates Hatcher was their son. 3) PA Births in Bucks County 1682-1800 Humphrey Publications 1993. Library of Congress 93-78745 Births for Van Horn, Van Sant, Sands Various 4) Picture of homestead of William Stokes in Warren County OH. Ancestry of Stokes and other families. Sinnickson Chew & Sons 1903 by Richard Haines 5) William Stokes lineage according to above source (ancestry of Stokes and other families.) 6) Burial plots and burial dates for Edward Hatcher family, Albert Hatcher family, George Hatcher family. Handwritten 3 ring binder titled: Asbury Methodist Cemetery Records, Burlington Co. Compiled by Elma Eckert. By word of mouth, Elma is/was part of the Burlington Co Historical Society. A total of 18 names RECORDS YOU ALREADY HAVE 7) Hatcher William, Pennsylvania and Anne Vansant, Pennsylvania 1727 NOV 13 New Jersey Marriage Records 1665-1800 Genealogical Publishing by William Nelson 8) Richard Fenimore will Witnessed by William Hatcher Calendar of Wills Abstract of Wills vol VII 1786-1790 TODAY Friday June 6, 2008 1) Grave registration record for Robert A Hatcher, Richard J Hatcher, William N Hatcher and Roland A Hatcher. All of which were in the military. Roland was in the Spanish war, while Robert and William WWII and Richard was Korean conflict ---- lots of statistical data 2) Hatcher, William ux to Vansant, Joshua N 276 10/6/1753 Hunterdon. (N276 refers to Book # & Page) Index to Colonial Conveyances of the Provinces of East & West New Jersey 1664-1794 V1A-I P220 * I will definitely be going after the original on the above. 3) William Spencer b July 12, 1765, m Sarah Hatcher Genealogies of New Jersey families from Genealogical magazine of New Jersey Vol 1 A - Z Selected by Joseph Klett ISBN 0-8063-1491-5 * Is this a bingo?? The above seems to be indicating Wm Spencer's family was from NJ. That would certainly fit if, for sure, our Wm/Ann VS was living there (Sarah being their dau). This is a family we will do more work on. 4) Page 218-219 Deed William Hayhurst, Bucks Co, yeoman, eldest son of Cuthbert Hayhurst, dec'd for 10 pounds from Henry Hudleston, Bucks Co, husbandman, 100 acres lying by the land of James Dilworth ... to land of Richard HATCHER... north westerly to land of WM Hayhurst. Ackn: 27/1/1689. Rec: the 29/1/1689. Wit. John Wood, Wm Beakes and Thos Stackhouse ALSO, a map of Bucks Reduced from Holmes Map of the Improved part of the province of Pennsylvania with the names of the orignial purchasers from William Penn, begun in 1681. Abstracts of Bucks County Land Records 1684-1723 Familyline Publications compiled by Charlotte D Meldrum * The above is the rec Ray sent us where I said this Richard was supposed to be a Thatcher, told to me by someone who had a copy of the original deed. So I will be getting a copy of this so we can do our own analysis. If anyone has any thoughts, wild ideas or whatever on any of this, jump right in! Nel

I always wonder if the Hacher should be Hatcher. It is not a name I have ever seen in my area. They appear to always live near a Hatcher family. Winnette

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Winnette, Yes, Hacher is a common misspelling for Hatcher, particularly in very early records. Very common in England, along with Hatchard, which I'm pretty sure is also a variation of Hatcher. Nel