HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Excellent, Paul! And there's another important name that pops up in these records - Robert Heaton. Ninety years later we have Robert Heaton and Wm Hatcher as bondsmen for Robert's marriage to Hannah Horner in BurlingtonCo, NJ. Does anyone recognize the Heaton name from your files? If anyone wants a copy of Holmes' 1681 "Wm Penn" map with owners platted, contact me privately. I have marked with a red X those names I've found in various records for Richard Thatcher. And if you can find the Heaton name on the map, please let us know. I couldn't find it but my eyes ain't up to speed yet either. And if anyone recognizes other names, mark them with a different colored X, tell us why they're important and send a copy back to me. Ed is ready for another research trip, this time in BucksCo so we'll see what else he may find. Nel

Thanks for sharing this. I don't know how he is, he is a goodlooking Hatcher. Winnette

Nope Nelly dear, abacus is fine and batteries aren't dead! That number comes from family tree DNA web site which shows that many Y-DNA matches (participants?) in the program... And yes, I realize that they are not all "Hatchers", I too wish they were... And always the big question? If the Major hails from the Edward line, who was Roberts' father, grandfather?? Inquiring minds want to know! :) Regards to all, William W. Hatcher Sr. Milledgeville, Ga. M Phone: 478-454-3468 God Bless America! -----Original Message----- From: hatcher-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hatcher-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of nelhatch Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:30 PM To: hatcher@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HATCHER] new 37 DNA marker match HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood 337 participants?? I wish!! Check your abacus, W W - the battery died :-) And Jeff is from the Edward line.....which is one more bullet in reinforcing my belief that Maj John is from Edward. Nel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1494 - Release Date: 6/10/2008 7:22 AM

For everyone’s information,             We now have a new 100% match on all 37 DNA markers to the William the Immigrant line.  This now gives us 10 exact matches across the test base of 337 participants if I read the numbers correctly?  Nel correct me if I am wrong!              Also Nel, which line does Jeffery hail from???? Regards to all, William W. Hatcher Sr. Milledgeville, Ga. e Phone: 478-454-3468 God Bless America!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DorisPetty87 Surnames: Hatcher - Cumber - Steen - English - Watson -Elkins - Ard - Outlaw - Smith - Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.hatcher/1859/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Margaret Cumber Hatcher >From the pages of The Progressive Journal WALLACE - Margaret Cumber Hatcher, 83 died May 4, 2008 at her home. A funeral service was held May 7, 2008 at Cheraw Church of God with burial in Oak Grove United Methodist Church Cemetery. Hatcher, born in Marlboro County, S.C. a daughter of the late Eldridge and Rachel Steen Cumber. She was a retired textile employee. Hatcher was a member of Cheraw Church of God and attended Oak Grove United Methodist Church. She was preceded in death by a brother Ed Cumber, and by three sisters, Lee English, Lib Watson, and Hazel Elkins. Surviving are: husband, Carnell Hatcher of the home; son, Gregory (Lynn) Hatcher of Wallace; daughter, Pam (Kenneth) Ard of Cheraw; brothers, J.C. Cumber of Hartsville, S.C. and Perry Cumber of Rockingham, N.C.; sisters, Naomi Outlaw of Rockingham, N.C. and Inez Smith of York, S.C.; also four grandchildren and one great-grandchild. Memorials may be made to Hospice of Chesterfield County, P.O. Box 293, Chesterfield, S.C. 29709. Miller-Rivers-Caulder Funeral Home was in charge of the arrangements. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DorisPetty87 Surnames: Hatcher - Wright - Davis - Frazier - Morgan - Woods - Gower - Hogge - McGowen Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.hatcher/1858/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Mrs. Gracie Hatcher Wright Davis, 86, of The Durham Regent, died Thursday, June 5, 2008, at Hospice at Meadowlands. She was raised in Johnston County and was a hairdresser for more than 40 years in Durham. Mrs. Davis was a former member of Creedmoor Baptist Church and attended services at Durham Regent. Her hobbies included gardening, dancing, crafts, rock collecting and travel. She also won many blue ribbons at the State Fair for her baked goods. Surviving are a son, Larry Wright of Stem; three daughters, Linda Wright Woods of Stem, Millie Wright Frazier of Louisburg and Kay Wright Morgan and husband, Joe of Durham; two brothers, Raymond Hatcher of Raleigh and William Hatcher of Virginia Beach, VA; three sisters, Mabel Gower of Wake Forest, Ruby Lee Hogge of Monk's Corner, SC, and Polly McGowen of Franklin Furnace, OH; ten grandchildren; and 14 great-grandchildren. She was predeceased by her husband, Charles Leon Davis. Funeral services will be held Saturday at 12:00 noon at Hudson Funeral Chapel, officiated by Rev. M.B. Collier. The family will receive visitors from 11:00 a.m. to noon prior to the funeral at the funeral home. A graveside service will be held at 3:00 p.m. at Flat Rock Baptist Church in Louisburg. Pallbearers will be Kimball Wright, Todd Frazier, Matt Griffin, Davis Akins, Josh Wallace and Todd Barker. Flowers are acceptable, or memorial contributions may be made to Duke Community Hospice Services, 4321 Medical Park Drive, Suite 101, Durham, NC. Published in The News & Observer on 6/7/2008. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood 337 participants?? I wish!! Check your abacus, W W - the battery died :-) And Jeff is from the Edward line.....which is one more bullet in reinforcing my belief that Maj John is from Edward. Nel

I suspect the same thing myself. But will do a bit more checking around. Burnis **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

I just spent an interesting couple of hours cruising through the Thatcher mailing lists, though I started out to check the DNA. The Thatchers do not seem to be bothered at all by the idea of a Thatcher/Hatcher connection. They mostly ignore it entirely though some of our Hatchers wrote in notes asking questions. There was never much of an answer--they all just go back to researching the Thatchers. They are a little confused by the 2 Richard Thatchers--one in Chester County, PA, with children Jonathan and Jane, and the other in Bucks County with a number of children. They seem to feel the 2 Richards are cousins and from the same area, I believe Uffington, Berkshire, England. Burnis **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

Knoxville News Sentinel June 10, 2008 Gaines Leon Hatcher age 89, a resident of Oak Ridge since 1944, passed away at Methodist Center on Sunday, June 8, 2008. Born in Powell, Tennessee on Oct 17 1918. He was a member of the Baptist faith and served in the U. S. Army during WWII. Former employers include TVA, Roane-Anderson and AIT. He retired from the city of Oak Ridge in 1985 following 25 years of service. He was the son of the late Joseph Lonas and Mable Cooper Hatcher. He was preceded in death by wife Antha Lucile Little Hatcher; brother Kyle Hatcher and sisters, Reba Kirkpatrick, Ruby Hatcher and Williamine Worley. He is survived by a son, Ted Hatcher and wife Kathy of Oak Ridge and two daughters;, Bobbie Hatcher of Oak Ridge and Juanita Hatcher of Rabun Gap, Georgia; grandchildren include Sherri and Kevin Jones of Oliver Springs, Tennessee, Lynne Hatcher of Jefferson City, Tennessee and Nelson Taylor of Knoxville; great grandchildren are Ryan and Austin Jones who provided a special joy to his life. He is al! so surv ived by his faithful companion, Tipper, his cocker spaniel. FAmily and friends will meet at Oak Ridge Memorial Park Chapel 9:45 AM Thursday June 12, 2008 for service at 10 AM. Family will receive friends 6:30 to 8 PM Wednesday at Mynatt Funeral Home-Halls Chapel. www.mynattfh.com Pat Holloway -------------- Original message from "nelhatch" <nelhatch@hills.net>: -------------- > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood > > Folks, > > I believe I can prove that Richard Thatcher was not a Hatcher. Here is what I've > found......... > > 1681 - Holmes' map showing land of Richard Thatcher near Dilworth and Paxton. > Richard Thatcher was one of the original settlers in 1681-82 of Penn's project. > > 1689 - Richard Hatcher/Thatcher living in BucksCo near Dilworth and Hayworth. > This is the same ref sent by Ray that listed Richard as Hatcher. That's an error > and should be Thatcher. > > 1697 - Richard Thatcher's will probated, sons Bartholomew, Amos, Joseph, 2 daus > in care of Wm & Henry Paxton. Witnesses to will were Tom Stackhouse and Israel > Taylor who can also be found as neighbors on the original 1681 map. > > So Richard never moved from his original location near Dilsworth and Paxton and > his sons are ID'd in his will. > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Burnis, That at least tells us we'll not find much help from the Thatchers since they appear not to have made a proven connection between the two Richards. Guessing doesn't cut it. But I really suspect we have no connection. Thanks!! Nel

Anybody know who this is? http://sarasota.reds.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Hatcher%20%20C&pos=&sid=t535&t=p_pbp&pid=501822 I was checking on the Sarasota Reds game (because I'm borderline obsessive about the Cincinnati Reds and two of their players are rehabbing there at the moment) and noticed a Hatcher on the roster of the opposing team. _________________________________________________________________ It’s easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites through Windows Live™ Messenger. Learn how. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow

Thanks. I'll see what I can find out. Burnis **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

So does it say somewhere which line of Thatchers was tested--what I am wondering is if it was descendants of one of the Richards, we just don't know which one, or was it perhaps the sons or grandsons of them. Maybe some of both branches were tested and they all matched each other? Burnis **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood I checked on the Thatcher DNA. Only 6 testers and they haven't put the results online....... Strike OUT! Nel

Testers from the Thatcher family of Bucks Co, Pennsylvania, matched each other but did not match descendants of William Hatcher. This DNA testing was in 2006. This is all I know about it for sure. Burnis **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Burnis, I haven't checked the Thatcher DNA site to see their results. But it may still be impossible for those who don't know the lines to tell which lines they come from......... Nel

Good work. Sounds as if progress is being made on this project. Thanks for all you do. I am still looking for that 1724 Tax List to see what kind it is. Burnis **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Here is the trick with the Thatcher-Hatcher DNA. No, we do not match each other.....BUT! There were 2 Richard Thatchers and I have found them both in the early PA records. We have Richard of BucksCo, sons Joseph, Bart, Amos. We also have Richard of ChesterCo with at least son, Jonathan. We also have plenty of Thatcher theories about Joseph Thatcher becoming Joseph Hatcher (remember the 1726 Wm Hatcher deed). And supposedly it is Joseph Hatcher in the 1724 Tax list. Sooo....who tested for the Thatchers and which Richard do they belong to? Do both Richards match each other? Has anyone tested from Joseph's line? All I can say for sure is that I see no connection at all to Richard of Bucks who was clearly Quaker. I think we're probably in agreement now that our Wm was not Quaker when he arrived but joined c1754. I do not know if Richard of Chester was a Quaker. Ain't this fun?? :-) Nel

As I recall, there was some DNA evidence also. Did the DNA evidence break the link from this same Richard Thatcher and the Quaker Hatcher line? ----- Original Message ----- From: nelhatch Folks, I believe I can prove that Richard Thatcher was not a Hatcher. Here is what I've found......... 1681 - Holmes' map showing land of Richard Thatcher near Dilworth and Paxton. Richard Thatcher was one of the original settlers in 1681-82 of Penn's project. 1689 - Richard Hatcher/Thatcher living in BucksCo near Dilworth and Hayworth. This is the same ref sent by Ray that listed Richard as Hatcher. That's an error and should be Thatcher. 1697 - Richard Thatcher's will probated, sons Bartholomew, Amos, Joseph, 2 daus in care of Wm & Henry Paxton. Witnesses to will were Tom Stackhouse and Israel Taylor who can also be found as neighbors on the original 1681 map. So Richard never moved from his original location near Dilsworth and Paxton and his sons are ID'd in his will. Nel