I guess it's time I tell what little I have found out about the Rakestraws. Not that there isn't information but it is somewhat conflicting. There are several wives involved and it isn't easy deciding which children go with which parents. I could follow the dates but they are conflicting as well. But here goes: *William Rakestraw, b. abt 1652, Henley on Thames, Oxford England, son of *Wlliam Rakestraw b. abt 1625, England, d. 5 Jan 1717/18, Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA. m. 1st *Grace Wyron 7 Jul 1672/73, Windsor, England, d. 11 Jan 1694 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA. dau. of John Wyron and Elizabeth. No more information on William b.1625. Children of William and Grace: i. Elizabeth, b. abt 1673, no further info ii. Pareluci, female, b. 1 Feb 1674, Henly on Thames, Oxford, England, christened there 1 Apr 1675. No further info. iii. Grace Jane Rakestraw b. 7 Apr 1674, Cornwall, England, d. 30 Sep 1700 or 6 Dec 1741, Philadelphia, PA. m. 1st David Price, abt 1695, Cornwall England b. abt 1672, Merion, New Jersey ( hey, that's what it said???)no further info on David. m.?2nd ?Nathaniel Zane 27 Jun 1697, Newton, Gloucester New Jersey, Ohio or Philadelphia. Nathaniel b. 24 Oct 1670, Dublin, Meath, Ireland (yes, Ireland!) d. 31 Dec 1728, Newton, Gloucester, NJ. Nathaniel Zane's father was Robert Zane, mother Margaret Hammond. No children with David Price that I have found. Children Zane: 1. Mary b. 1 Nov 1698, Newton Gloucester, NJ. No further info. 2. Margaret b. 12 Nov 1698, (twins 12 days apart)? Newton, Gloucester, NJ or PA. m. James Caffrey est. b.?1675-1702, est. d.1727-1728. 3. Abigail b. 17 Jul 1700, Newton Gloucester, NJ. No further info. 4. Joseph b. 1 Aug 1702, Newton Gloucester, NJ. m. Mary Hinchman abt 1728 Philadelphia. 5. Hannah b. 19 Nov 1704, Newton Gloucester, NJ. No further info. 6. Jonathan Zane b. 29 Sep 1706 NG, NJ, d. 19 Dec 1778, m. Mary Shenton 28 Jun 1728, Philadelphia, Mary d. 19 Dec 1788. 7. Ebenezer b. 7 Dec 1708, NG, NJ. No further info. 8. Isaac b. 3 Mar 1710, NG, NJ. d. 7 Mar 1794, m. Sarah Gilbert, 15 Nov 1733, Philadelphia. 9. William Andrew, 26 Nov 1712, NG, NJ, d. 1779, Wheeling, Ohio, Virginia, m. Nancy Anne Nolan 1744 of Philadelphia or Berkley Virginia. Nancy Anne b. 1723, Berkley, VA. iv.Theophila, female, b. 31 May 1676, Henley on Thames, Oxford, England. No further info. v. Joseph, b. 18 Mar 1679, Oxford, England, d. 30 Sep 1700, Philadelphia, m. Grace Bet. 1696/1699. vi. John, b. 1685/1690, Oxford, England. No further info. vii. William b. 1685/1690, Oxford, England, d. 1738, PA. m. Anne Smith 2 Mar 1711, Philadelphia. *viii. Thomas b. 1686, Oxford, England, d. 17 May 1728, PA. m. Mary Wilkins 1718/1720, Philadelphia or Hannonfield, NJ. Note: Those with no further info listed means no apparent info. I still need to dig deeper on those. Also several states records will need to be utilized to find places and dates of birth since there are conflicting reports. I haven't had time to do this yet. Next installment coming right up. Shirley Hatcher Ross

Could that be William jr., son of William and Ann Vansant? I don't have much of anything on him--birth order etc.--but the parents were married in 1727 and if he was among the older kids he could have been well over 20, maybe 30 in 1763. The request for a certificate to Goose Creek MM in Loudon County says "for William and his younger children." Does anyone have good information on the children in this family? I have to leave for awhile but later will go back through the Quaker records I have to see if there might be a mention of son William anyplace unless someone else already knows. Burnis **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood What I know about Wm's kids......... Wm Jr md 1779 in LoudounCo, VA, d 1816 (proven by will). No children. Supposedly bn c1740. Wife supposedly bn c1750 (unproven). One of these 2 either incapable of having children OR they were much older than we show. If he and Mary were bn c1730, that could be why no children. He would also have been abt 86 when he died. Nothing about being rec'd on request. Sarah Hatcher Russell, wife of Sam. NO Quaker recs on these two. She supposedly bn c1728, 3 kids shown but no sourcing for them. Where were they in 1754? What proof of her 1728 bdate? She was mentioned dead last in Wm's will. John - enough evidence to know he was born before 1736. He has an unsourced bdate of 8-29-1729 yet no specific death date. May have been born anytime between 1729-1735 unless his birth date can be proven. Was rec'd on request 1755. James bdate of 7 Mar 1732 from Quaker recs Was rec'd on request. George bn c1738. Not a thing to verify this and based on his marriage dates, he could have been born as much as 10 yrs later. Thomas with unsourced bdate 15 Jan 1750 YET he was rec'd on request in 1761. At age 11?? Hmmm...something not right here. Nel

Well said, Gary. From what I can tell from reading the Thatcher lists, they don't seem to see or acknowledge any connection or mix-up between the two families so I say we should get on with searching Hatchers and leave the Thatchers to the Thatchers. Burnis **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood And to add to our stew....a quickie note from Ed who's busy Sherlocking this morning....... "I found a wm hatcher in 1763 in Bristol, Bucks co from the tax records (bristol road tax). I also found a nicholas hatcher in middletown in 1754,1757,1760(relief of poor). According to what I read, he is "near" a garret vansant." So it would appear we have another Wm in this mix since ours was in VA c1754..............hmmmm! Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Well, phooey! If Wm Rakestraw brought anyone over, it wasn't our Wm. William and family arrived in America by 1685 as John Moll of the town of New Castle deeded William Rakestraw, late of Oxfordshire in the Kingdom of England, a parcel of land on the west side of the Delaware River high into the upper end of Bread & Cheese Island and on the north side of White Clay Creek which divideth this from the land of John Edmunds. (21 April 1685: Recorder of Deeds, New Castle County, Wilmington, Delaware) Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Gary, I don't disagree at all on the Thatcher situation. No connection. My only remaining question was whether Joseph was a Thatcher or Hatcher. While it doesn't appear that this land was originally part of Richard Thatcher's property, it does seem possible that Joseph Thatcher may simply have purchased it from Jeremiah Dungan. I'm also having a bit of difficulty following the 1726 deed but it looks to me as if Joseph owned 34A but Wm is selling only 10A. I can't tell whether the entire 34A was turned over to Wm by poll deed or just the 10A that Wm is selling. If anyone wants to read this deed and express an opinion, it's at http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/getperson.php?personID=I3219&tree=QHatch But Gary did say something that I had been thinking about yesterday. Here we have a young man who, by all appearances, was not a Quaker yet living in the middle of them. So how did he end up there? Since we know he had to be quite young, I had thought that he came over as so many did.....as a servant connected to some family....or in Wm's case, as a young wheelwright perhaps still under apprenticeship as Gary explained. He was too young in 1718 (as far as we know) to own land so he must have been living with some family. And if that's the case, we go back to his witnessing the Rakestraw will in 1718. Who witnesses wills? Your neighbors. So how was Wm a neighbor? Because he lived with 1) Wm Rakestraw whose dau was Grace Rakestraw ZANE 2) Witness Tobias Nilee (a unique name not found in any other records) 3) Witness John Cadwalader Having read up on John Cadwalader and his history, he appears to be well documented directly to Wales. He was also a man involved frequently in estate processing, often as an administrator, witness or involved in the taking of inventory. But being from Wales would seem to eliminate him as the holder of Wm's apprenticeship. (I don't even want to go there :-) SOOOO! By process of elimination, we have Wm Rakestraw as his sponsor, whose dau also has a connection to the Zane family. I think it's time to find out more about Rakestraw, particularly where he came from and when he arrived here. Ray - can you see what you can find on Wm Rakestraw pre-1718? Ed - put him on your list, too. Let the research continue........and many thanks, Gary, for your input. I think it's dead on. Nel

Thanks, Gary, I agree! Gary Hatcher <garyhatcher@cascadeaccess.com> wrote: I thank it is about time to put the Hatcher/Thatcher issue to rest once and for all. As near as I can determine, the land sold by William Hatcher has the following history: William Penn to Richard Thatcher - 1682 Richard Thatcher to Heirs - 1690 Richard's Heirs to Sam'l Breaks - 1700-01 Sam'l Breaks to Robert Heaton - 1704 Robert Heaton to Godfrey Kirk - 1716 Godfrey Kirk to Jeremiah Dungan - 1719 Jeremiah Dungan to Joseph Hatcher - 1724 Joseph Hatcher to William Hatcher -1726 William Hatcher to Ruth Croasdale - 1728 This is hardly a direct line of inheritance from Richard Thatcher to Joseph and William Hatcher, as was assumed in the original supposition that Joseph Hatcher was a descendant of Richard Thatcher. With DNA tests showing no connection between the Thatcher and William Hatcher families it would seem to make the similarities in the two names just coincidental. The 1728 deed also does not indicate what the relationship between Joseph and William Hatcher was. There is nothing to verify the assumption that Joseph was William's father, this is a possibility; however, I have not found any reference to Joseph before the 1724 purchase of the property. The deed does show that William received the property from Joseph by deed poll, which means that the deed was just signed over to William by Joseph and that there was no contract signed by both parties. It is possible the Joseph and William may have been related in some other way. By 1724 when Joseph purchased the land William was a journeyman wheelwright and he may have sponsored Joseph's immigration to the Colonies and even helped him obtain the property. Joseph may have signed the land over to William as a payment of his debt when he decided to move away from Middletown. It could be that Joseph was a brother or cousin to William. Joseph may also be the missing link between the Dorset Hatchers and the William Zane Hatcher Pennsylvania line. We definitely need to find out more about this Joseph Hatcher, I feel that continuing to chase the Hatcher/Thatcher connection is a wild goose chase that only distracts us away form the real research that is needed. Tks, Gary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The apprenticeship of William Hatcher as a wheelwright brings forth a lot of possibilities. In the early 1700's young men went through apprenticeships to become craftsman/artisans like wheelwrights. These young men usually stated their apprenticeships at about age 15 or 16 and where indentured until they turned 21, when they became journeymen. As part of their apprenticeship they would live with the master craftsman and even have to move with them if they relocated (immigrated to the Colonies) After, becoming a journeymen they would usually work under contract to another master craftsman or someone who could hire them. They would work under contract until they could obtain the means of establishing their own business. For our William Hatcher this would mean that if he was born about 1700 than he was still an apprentice when he witnessed the Rakestraw will in 1718. We know that by 1724 he was recognized as a wheelwright and was paying taxes as a land/business owner. If we could find any apprenticeship records or even determine the name of his master craftsmen, we would gain a lot of new information about William. Apprentice indentures/contracts usually contain the name of the master craftsmen and the parents/guardian of the young apprentice. Apprenticeships in England were controlled by craft guilds; however, there were few guilds in the early colonies so apprenticeships had less formal control. The craftsmen in the colonies did carry with them the apprenticeship traditions of England and most of what I have read indicates similar terms of indenture. I think that there are three possible scenarios for Williams's apprenticeship: 1. He apprenticed under his father or another relative. These may not have involved an indenture contract; however, he would have still had to meet a journeymen level of skill before he would have been considered a wheelwright. Somewhere (in Dorset or the Colonies) there should be a record of another Hatcher wheelwright or another relative who would have been the master craftsmen. 2. He was indentured under contract by his parents or guardian to a master craftsman as an apprentice. Families would even pay for the most desirable apprenticeships, like that of wheelwright. Again, there should be some record of this contract. 3. He was placed into an apprenticeship as an orphan. In the late 1600's and early 1700's about one-third of all orphaned boys were placed into apprenticeships by orphanages or church parishes. In this case he may have been apprenticed at a young age and would have worked in some other capacity until his actual wheelwright apprenticeship began at about age 15. Keep searching, Gary

I thank it is about time to put the Hatcher/Thatcher issue to rest once and for all. As near as I can determine, the land sold by William Hatcher has the following history: William Penn to Richard Thatcher - 1682 Richard Thatcher to Heirs - 1690 Richard's Heirs to Sam'l Breaks - 1700-01 Sam'l Breaks to Robert Heaton - 1704 Robert Heaton to Godfrey Kirk - 1716 Godfrey Kirk to Jeremiah Dungan - 1719 Jeremiah Dungan to Joseph Hatcher - 1724 Joseph Hatcher to William Hatcher -1726 William Hatcher to Ruth Croasdale - 1728 This is hardly a direct line of inheritance from Richard Thatcher to Joseph and William Hatcher, as was assumed in the original supposition that Joseph Hatcher was a descendant of Richard Thatcher. With DNA tests showing no connection between the Thatcher and William Hatcher families it would seem to make the similarities in the two names just coincidental. The 1728 deed also does not indicate what the relationship between Joseph and William Hatcher was. There is nothing to verify the assumption that Joseph was William's father, this is a possibility; however, I have not found any reference to Joseph before the 1724 purchase of the property. The deed does show that William received the property from Joseph by deed poll, which means that the deed was just signed over to William by Joseph and that there was no contract signed by both parties. It is possible the Joseph and William may have been related in some other way. By 1724 when Joseph purchased the land William was a journeyman wheelwright and he may have sponsored Joseph's immigration to the Colonies and even helped him obtain the property. Joseph may have signed the land over to William as a payment of his debt when he decided to move away from Middletown. It could be that Joseph was a brother or cousin to William. Joseph may also be the missing link between the Dorset Hatchers and the William Zane Hatcher Pennsylvania line. We definitely need to find out more about this Joseph Hatcher, I feel that continuing to chase the Hatcher/Thatcher connection is a wild goose chase that only distracts us away form the real research that is needed. Tks, Gary

Burnis, I'm descended from John Scarborough and Mary Pierson/Pearson as well, through their son Robert's second marriage to Mary Bailey. Oddly enough, my husband is descended from that same Robert Scarborough's first marriage. We did NOT know that before we got married! I thought it was hilarious, but it kinda creeped him out :) Anyway, I haven't done any independent research on that line, just thought it was interesting that we're related. Feel free to email me if you want more info on my Scarboroughs. Amy Hatcher Ryan > From: BurnJi@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:12:16 -0400> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Richard Thatcher 2 of 2> > Yes, Quakers.> > My Immigrant ancestor was John Scarborough sr. who brought his son, John jr. > to Bucks Co, PA, in 1682. John sr. stayed 2 years then moved back to London > as his wife refused to move here. John jr. stayed and married a Mary > Pearson/Pierson whose mother may have been a Janney. I descend through John and > Mary's daughter Mary who married Samuel Pickering. Interesting story here--due > to DNA testing us Pickering descendents have discovered recently that Samuel > was not a part of the Massachusetts Pickerings as we had always thought so > now we are in the process of researching to figure out just who he was. Many > mysteries in genealogy. After Stephen died Mary married Joseph Lupton in > Buck's County, whose wife Mercy Twining had also died. I am also descended > from Joseph and Mercy as their son William married his stepsister, Grace, > daughter of Stephen and Mary Pickering. Joseph and Mary and their blended family > moved to Virginia and joined Hopewell Monthly Meeting. And they had three > children together.> > So in this Quaker group I have Twinings, Pickerings, Luptons, Pearsons, > Scarboroughs, Youngs and possibly Janneys and the son of Joseph and Grace Lupton > married into the Kirk family of Pennsylvania, large Quaker family, though I > am not entirely satisfied about which branch of the Kirk family. > > Burnis> > > > **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best > 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Instantly invite friends from Facebook and other social networks to join you on Windows Live™ Messenger. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_InviteFriends

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Yes, Quakers. My Immigrant ancestor was John Scarborough sr. who brought his son, John jr. to Bucks Co, PA, in 1682. John sr. stayed 2 years then moved back to London as his wife refused to move here. John jr. stayed and married a Mary Pearson/Pierson whose mother may have been a Janney. I descend through John and Mary's daughter Mary who married Samuel Pickering. Interesting story here--due to DNA testing us Pickering descendents have discovered recently that Samuel was not a part of the Massachusetts Pickerings as we had always thought so now we are in the process of researching to figure out just who he was. Many mysteries in genealogy. After Stephen died Mary married Joseph Lupton in Buck's County, whose wife Mercy Twining had also died. I am also descended from Joseph and Mercy as their son William married his stepsister, Grace, daughter of Stephen and Mary Pickering. Joseph and Mary and their blended family moved to Virginia and joined Hopewell Monthly Meeting. And they had three children together. So in this Quaker group I have Twinings, Pickerings, Luptons, Pearsons, Scarboroughs, Youngs and possibly Janneys and the son of Joseph and Grace Lupton married into the Kirk family of Pennsylvania, large Quaker family, though I am not entirely satisfied about which branch of the Kirk family. Burnis **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

I thought some of you might not receive the Ancestry Weekly Journal and might like to read this article. Winnette Are Quakers in Your Ancestral Mix? by Mary Penner What do James Dean, Daniel Boone, Richard Nixon, Dave Matthews, Betsy Ross, Joan Baez, and James Michener have in common? They either had family members who were Quakers, were raised in a Quaker home, or counted themselves among the Quaker faithful. Having Quakers in your family tree, even if they weren't famous, can be like a genealogical parting of the Red Sea opening up a promised land flowing with ancestors. The Society of Friends, commonly known as Quakers, traces its origins to George Fox. In mid-seventeenth century England, Fox was disillusioned with the current religious practices and sought a more enlightened form of worship. When he was nineteen, Fox believed he received a revelation from God. This revelation, based on the concept of "Inner Light," fueled a movement that snowballed into a full-blown religion across England. Eventually, Quakers made their way across the Atlantic, but the welcome mat wasn't always out. Two Quaker women, suspected of being witches, were promptly deported from Boston in 1656. Undeterred, more and more Quakers immigrated to North America and before long the religion had a strong presence in the Colonies. Family history researchers relish having Quaker roots because the Quakers were diligent note-takers. These notes, or minutes, recorded at their monthly meeting for business, hold bundles of clues about our Quaker ancestors. For example, the minutes noted marriages. The industrious clerk recorded the marriage vows that my ancestor Manoah Chiles repeated when he married his second wife in the Virginia Cedar Creek Monthly Meeting in 1742. He also threw in some valuable genealogical scoops: "Manoah Chiles, son of Henry, deceased of the county of Hanover, and Anne Cheadle, daughter of John Cheadle of the county of Caroline." The minutes often recorded births and deaths of members, as well. Additionally, Quaker minutes frequently noted the comings and goings of its members. You might find a record stating that a member transferred to a different meeting. You will also learn about members who were disowned. Many were dismissed from the group for engaging in military service. My ancestor, Peter Hubbard, involved in a contentious land dispute with his brother, was disowned "whilst he remains in that un-Christian spirit." How likely is it that some of your ancestors were Quakers? If your ancestors lived in the eastern third of the country before the middle of the nineteenth century, the chances are good that you've got a Quaker in your background. Quakers were widespread throughout the colonies in the eighteenth century with strong populations in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Virginia, and North Carolina. In the next century, large populations of Quakers lived in Tennessee, Indiana, and Ohio. Start your search for Quaker ancestors with the works of William Hinshaw. His six-volume Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy abstracts more than 500,000 details of Quaker happenings. Digital images of all six volumes are on Ancestry. Search the Ancestry Card Catalog for "Quaker" and you'll find Hinshaw's works as well as a number of other resources related to Quakers. The book, Our Quaker Ancestors, by Ellen and David Berry provides a solid overview of the types of records available and where you might find them. This book is available in the Ancestry Store. A number of early Quaker records are housed at college libraries. Check out the Friends Collection at Earlham College. You'll find a large digital library of Quaker-related materials. Another substantial collection is at Swarthmore College's Friends Historical Library. Hundreds of websites are devoted to Quaker research. And, of course, Quakers are still quite active today. If you encounter an ancestor who joined the Society of Friends you may be in for some interesting discoveries. Genealogist Mary Penner writes "Lineage Lessons," a weekly genealogy column, for the Albuquerque Tribune. She can be reached through her website (www.marypenner.com).

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These postings were certainly of special interest to me as John Scarborough is one of my ancestors. Thank you. Burnis Argo **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

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Richard THATCHER Date: Apr 25, 1698 Residence: Bucks Co., PA Land Record ID: 23434 Description: Father Book-Page: 2-194 Property: Parcel of land containing 250 acres. Remarks: Deed. Bartholomew THATCHER and Joseph THATCHER to Robert HEATON for £61.12, a parcel of land formerly owned by Cuthbert HEARST along PAXSON's land...land of John SCARBOROUGH and land formerly Nicholas WALLN's...containing 250 acres, conveyed to Richard THATCHER, dec'd., by deed dated 13th da, 8/1690 and by him devised by his last will dated 13/8/1690 to sons, Bartholomew THATCHER, Joseph THATCHER and Amos THATCHER. Ackn: 25th da, 4th mo, 1698. ================================= Richard THATCHER Date: Jan 16, 1700 Residence: Bucks Co., PA Land Record ID: 23536 Description: Neighbor Book-Page: 3-43 Property: 100 acres Remarks: Deed. John SCARBOROUGH of Bucks Co., yeoman, and son of John SCARBOROUGH of London, Kingdom of England, blacksmith, 100 acres, warranted to said John SCARBOROUGH dated 20/3/1682, land running by Richard THATCHER ... land of James PAXSON. Ackn: 16?/1/1700. Rec: 21/4/1701. ================================= Richard THATCHER Date: Jan 1, 1702/3 Residence: Bucks Co., PA Land Record ID: 23584 Description: Father Book-Page: 3-116 Property: 100 acres. Remarks: Deed. Bartholomew THATCHER and Joseph THATCHER, Bucks Co., carpenters, joint executors of last will of Richard THATCHER, their father, dec'd. for 100 paid by Robert Heaton of Middleton town, yeoman, 100 acres. Ackn: 1/1/1702/3. Rec: 22/3/1703. ================================= Richard THATCHER Date: May 15, 1703 Residence: Bucks Co., PA Land Record ID: 23604 Description: Neighbor Book-Page: 3-152 Property: Parcel of land beginning at a corner post by Neshaminy Creek, 500 acres; also another parcel of land beginning at a post by Neshaminy Creek, 500 acres. Remarks: Deed. Robt. HEATON, Middle township, yeoman, to Bernard Christian and Peter LAWRENCE, both of Bergen Co., of East Jersey, yeoman. Parcel of land beginning at a corner post by Neshaminy Creek...land belonging to Edward BROOKS...Anthony TOMKIN's land...500 acres, granted to Christopher TAYLOR by patent on 6/2/1686; also another parcel of land beginning at a post by Neshaminy Creek...by Richard THATCHER's land...500 acres, granted by patent to Christopher TAYLOR by patent 11/3/1686. Land was confirmed to Robert HEATON by Israel TAYLOR, Joseph TAYLOR, John BUZBY and his wife Mary, heirs of said Christopher TAYLOR. For £825. Signed 15 May 1703 and received within mentioned consideration. Rec: 26/11/1703. ================================= Richard THATCHER Date: Oct 9, 1704 Residence: Bucks Co., PA Land Record ID: 23629 Description: Neighbor Book-Page: 3-188 Property: A parcel of land in Middletown, beginning at a post in Matthew WILDMAN's line [boundary] 50 acres. Remarks: William HAYHORST of Middletown, to John CUTLER of Middletown, schoolmaster, for £50, a parcel of land in Middletown, beginning at a post in Matthew WILDMAN's line [boundary] by Robert HEATON's land...Henry HUDDLESTON's...by the land laid out to Richard THATCHER - 50 acres which is part of 250 acres laid out to Cuthbert HAYHURST, father of said William and confirmed to him by patent dated 20/10/1685. Ackn: 14 Dec 1704. Rec: 7 Jan 1703/4. ================================= Richard THATCHER Date: Sept 18, 1707 Residence: Bucks Co., PA Land Record ID: 23732 Description: Neighbor Book-Page: 3-394 Property: Two tracts - 200 acres, beginning at the corner of land of Richard THATCHER and adjoining land of Edward BROOKS. Remarks: Release. Peter LAWRENCE, of Bergen Co., East Jersey, yeoman, for consideration of making a writing release of moiety or one half of two tracts mentioned from Barnard CHRISTIAN, of said county quit claim to said Barnard CHRISTIAN 200 acres, conveyed jointly from Robert HEATON of Middletown beginning at the corner of land of Richard THATCHER and adjoining land of Edward BROOKS. Ackn: 18 Sep 1707. Rec: 6 Feb 1707. ================================= ??? THATCHER Date: Jan 9, 1698 Residence: Bucks Co., PA Land Record ID: 23416 Description: Neighbor Book-Page: 2-174 Property: 60 acres beginning at Thatcher's line. Remarks: Deed. John Scarborough, Middlesex, Bucks Co. husbandman, for £24 paid him by Thomas BAYES, of Middletown, Bucks Co., 60 acres beginning at THATCHER's line, part of 250 acres granted by patent dated 14 July 1682. Ackn: 9th da, 1st mo, 1698. Rec: 10th da, 4th mo, 1698. ================================= ??? THATCHER Date: Dec 20, 1706 Residence: Bucks Co., PA Land Record ID: 23688 Description: Mentioned Book-Page: 3-298 Property: A tract of land lying in Bucks Co. - 80 acres. Remarks: Deed. William COWPER, Bucks Co., a tract of land lying in Bucks Co. by land of Thomas BAYNE...to land formerly THATCHER..., the tract granted to John SCARBOROUGH, of London, blacksmith, dated 4 July 1682 - 80 acres, for £121 paid by Henry Johnson VANDYKE, of said county, yeoman. Ackn: 20 Dec 1706. Rec: 28 Dec 1706. "Abstracts of Philadelphia County Wills" 1682-1826, by F. Edward Wright, Westminster, Maryland, 1995: Richard THATCHER, Bucks county, Pennsylvania, husbandman. Will dated 13 October, 1690- proved 24 December 1697 book A, page372. Wife's name is not given. Estate to sons Bartholomew, Joseph and Amos. Legacies to eldest son Richard and to daughters Sarah, Rachel, Martha and Mary THATCHER. Phineas PEMBERTON is mentioned. Executors: Sons Bartholomew, Joseph and Amos THATCHER. Witnesses: Thomas STACKHOUSE Israel TAYLOR

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Naw, not really participants, W W - they're just the other testers who have matched our group (the real participants :-) I know there's over 200 non-Hatcher matches on 12 markers but the larger majority of them drop off the map at 25 markers, making them totally meaningless. Nel

"Genealogical and Personal History of Bucks county, Pennsylvania" by William W. H. Davis, New York and Chicago, 1905: John BALDERSTON was trained in the weaving of silk and worsted. He remained in England until he was about 25 years of age, when in the year 1727 he emigrated to America as a redemptioner. He located in Bucks county, Pennsylvania, where he followed weaving as a livelyhood. After residing for some time at North Wales he removed to Upper Makefield, and finally settled in Solebury township, where his remaining days were passed. The title to the BALDERSTON tract of land dates back to the time when it passed by warrent from William PENN to Richard THATCHER on 4 May 1682. That transfer covered one thousand acres which was afterward divided among the children of THATCHER, three hundred and fifty acres going to his sons, Bartholomew and Joseph THATCHER. It was this tract which after having passed through several ownerships was purchased by John BALDERSTON on 21 June 1766, he buying it from the heirs of William CHADWICK. The tract of three hundred and fifty acres, after being handed down from father to son, has been subdivided until the patrimony of Oliver BALDERSTON covered a farm of one hundred and twenty-eight acres, constituting that upon which Charles S. BALDERSTON now [1905] resides. The portion of the farm on which stood the original buildings---one hundred and forty-two acres---was transferred to Joshua ELY. A part of the old residence built by John BALDERSTON on taking possession of the place in 1766, is still standing, but the house has recently [1905] been remodeled. Oliver BALTERSTON spent his life upon the farm now occupied by his son Charles, living there from his ninth year until his death, 5 February 1895. The BALDERSTONs have all been members of the Friends meeting, and have been advocates in more recent years of the Republican party, but while progressive and loyal in citizenship have never been office seekers. Richard THATCHER received 1,000 acres in Bucks county, Pennsylvania, from William PENN on 4 May 1682. He came from that part of England known as the Midlands, where many were small landholders and Quakers. Bucks County, Pennsylvania Deeds: Richard THATCHER Date: Jan. 29, 1689 Residence: Bucks Co., PA Land Record ID: 23166 Description: Neighbor Book-Page: 1-218 Property: 100 acres Remarks: William HAYHURST of Bucks Co., for £10 from Henry HUDLESTON of Bucks Co.. Lying by the land of James DILWORTH..to land of Richard THATCHER, north westerly to land of Wm. HAYHURST. Ackn: 27 March 1688/89. ================================= Richard THATCHER, Sr. Date: June 12, 1698 Residence: Bucks Co., PA Land Record ID: 23460 Description: Former owner Book-Page: 2-235 Property: 100 acres. Remarks: Deed. Richard THATCHER, dec'd. for £12 paid by John SCARBOROUGH, 100 acres, part of the land formerly owned by Edmund BENNETT ... land of John PENNINGTON ... formerly owned by Richard HATCHER, Sr., said land Richard HATCHER, Sr. by last will devised to son Richard THATCHER Ackn: 12 June 1698. Rec: 28 /1/1699. ================================= Richard THATCHER Date: July 15, 1689 Residence: Bucks Co., PA Land Record ID: 23197 Description: Neighbor Book-Page: 1-281 Property: A parcel of land containing 50 acres alongside the Neshaminy Remarks: Nicholas WALN of Bucks Co. for £10 paid by William HAYHURST of Bucks Co., [bordered by] land of Richard THATCHER. Ackn: the 11th da, 7th mo, [September] 1689. =================================