I would think that 34 acres would be plenty for a house and a building for a tradesman. > Burnis, > > "Are you thinking that William who married Ann Vansant had a father named > William?" > > I'm thinking it's possible, yes. I'm thinking Wm who witnessed the 1718 > will of Rakestraw was the father of Wm/Ann. I'm not seeing any clue in the > Rakestraw history that tells me Wm came over here with that family as an > apprentice wheelwright. It's quite possible our Wm learned his trade from > his father. > > One other niggly is the land purchases of Joseph and Wm/Ann. Joseph bought > in 1724, sold to Wm in 1726, and Wm sold it in 1728. Wm was not much over > 21 and I just find it difficult to see a young man coming over here as an > apprentice wheelwright and nothing else, yet earning and saving enough to > purchase land without assistance from someone......like his father? > > "Wm and Ann may have stayed in New Jersey instead of just having gone > there to get married?" > > I do think they came back if for no other reason than to sell the property > he bought from Joseph. My thinking is that the land values in NJ may have > been much cheaper than they were in the more solidly populated BucksCo > (not far from Philly). He may have been able to purchase a much larger > hunk of land in NJ than the 34A he owned in Bucks. There's not much you > can do with 34A.

OK, good. I think this all makes sense. We just need to adjust our thinking a little in doing the research. Sure weren't getting anywhere the other way. Thanks, Burnis **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Sure, 34A would be fine but I see other factors involved here. First, he was a young man possibly competing with more experienced and older wheelwrights. A long period of skimpy employment would be very difficult with a wife and expected kids. And most tradesmen I've seen in that time period still put their faith in land ownership. If the situation was as I suggested - lower land values in NJ and a less populated area with perhaps a shortage of wheelwrights, it may have been a wise decision on his part. Nel

This timeline is a good idea. I am a little confused, though. Are you thinking that William who married Ann Vansant had a father named William? Certainly very possible with there being so many Williams in the next generations. Oddly enough I do have a Joseph attached to the children list of Wm/Ann but don't know where that came from. It is another of my question marks. And lastly--Wm and Ann may have stayed in New Jersey instead of just having gone there to get married? Burnis **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

I think it's caused because you don't include a subject. ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <nelhatch@hills.net> To: <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] ???? > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D > Greenwood > > Shirley, > > I don't have a clue..... > > Gremlins??????????????? :-) > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1501 - Release Date: 6/13/2008 6:33 AM

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Burnis, "Are you thinking that William who married Ann Vansant had a father named William?" I'm thinking it's possible, yes. I'm thinking Wm who witnessed the 1718 will of Rakestraw was the father of Wm/Ann. I'm not seeing any clue in the Rakestraw history that tells me Wm came over here with that family as an apprentice wheelwright. It's quite possible our Wm learned his trade from his father. One other niggly is the land purchases of Joseph and Wm/Ann. Joseph bought in 1724, sold to Wm in 1726, and Wm sold it in 1728. Wm was not much over 21 and I just find it difficult to see a young man coming over here as an apprentice wheelwright and nothing else, yet earning and saving enough to purchase land without assistance from someone......like his father? "Wm and Ann may have stayed in New Jersey instead of just having gone there to get married?" I do think they came back if for no other reason than to sell the property he bought from Joseph. My thinking is that the land values in NJ may have been much cheaper than they were in the more solidly populated BucksCo (not far from Philly). He may have been able to purchase a much larger hunk of land in NJ than the 34A he owned in Bucks. There's not much you can do with 34A. Nel

Nel, Why do the question marks at the top of the page appear when I send and e-mail. I didn't put them there and I don't recall seeing them when I send other e-mail to other addresses?

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Shirley, I don't have a clue..... Gremlins??????????????? :-) Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Little by little, we're filling in the gaps. And we certainly have enough unknown Hatchers at this point......... I am now beginning to wonder if our 1718 Wm may be father of Wm/Ann, Nicholas and Joseph (if he's a Hatcher). And it would appear that Wm who first appears in the 1760 tax list is likely son of Nicholas. That would seem to indicate at this time that Wm of Burlington MAY BE Wm/Ann VS. All comments welcome! Nel ------------------------- 1718 - Wm Hatcher witnesses will of Wm Rakestraw, PhilaCo 1724 - Jeremiah Dungan sells 34A to Joseph Hatcher (Thatcher?) ----------Wm Hatcher appears on 1724 Bucks Tax list (what type of tax?) ----------Joseph Hatcher appears on same list? 1726 - Joseph Hatcher (Thatcher?) sells same 34A to Wm Hatcher. 1727-11-13 - Wm Hatcher md Ann VS in BurlingtonCo, NJ 1728-4-10 - Wm sells 34A to Ruth Croasdale. 1747 - Nicholas Hatcher of Bensalem, bondsman for marriage of Stephen Sands and Mary Hatcher 1753 - Wm Hatcher of Burlington, NJ sells land to Joshua Van Sant 1754 - Wm/Ann VS rec'd at Fairfax MM, VA 1754 - Nicholas Hatcher, Middletown, BucksCo Tax list near Robert Croasdale 1757 - Nicholas Hatcher, Middletown, BucksCo Tax list near Robert Corasdale, Gabriel Van Horn, Garret Van Horn, Jeremiah Dungan (sold land to Joseph Hatcher/Thatcher), Garrit Van Sant, Isaiah (est of) Van Sant 1760 - Nicholas Hatcher, Middletown, BucksCo Tax list, listed but no tax assessed, Van Horns still there plus Richard, Abraham and Natt Brittain 1760 - John Hatcher born, place unknown, md Amelia Coates 1783 Philly, PA 1763 - Wm Hatcher - Bristol, BucksCo Tax list, Nicholas not on list (dead?)

Corrections and Additions: C is correction??? A is addition??????? 12 Jun 2008 C Margaret Zane, dau. of Nathaniel Zane and Grace Jane Rakestraw, b. 1698, Newton, Gloucester, NJ, d. aft. 1747, m. James Caffrey, b. abt 1696, , , NJ, C Jonathan Zane, son of Nathaniel Zane and Grace Jane Rakestraw, d. 10 Oct 1788. C Mary Shenton, dau. of William Shenton and Elinor Staplefort and wife of Jonathan Zane, b. 1709, Philadelphia. C Mary Hinchman b. abt 1710, Haddonfield, Camden, New Jersey A Children of Joseph Zane and Mary Hinchman: i.Rachel Deborah Zane, dau. of Joseph Zane and Mary Hinchman, b. 22 Aug 1729, Philadelphia II. Ester, b. 27 Dec 1730, Philadelphia iii. Nathaniel, b. 8 Mar 1732 iv.Elizabeth b. 9 Sep 1935, Gloucester, NJ, m. Thomas Rakestraw III, 4th of Jul 1757, Burlington, NJ, Thomas b. 1740, Burlington, NJ, d. 20 Jul 1774, Philadelphia. v. Hannah, b. 27 Jan 1738, Philadelphia vi. Rodah, b. 8 Mar 1740, Philadelphia,? A Children of Thomas Rakestraw and Elizabeth Zane: i. William b. 1758, Evesham, Burlington, NJ, ?d. bef 1835 ii. John b. 1759, Evesham, Burlington, NJ, d. aft. 15 Jun 1820. iii. Sarah, b. abt 1761, , Burlington, NJ. iv. Joseph, b. abt 1762, Burlington, NJ, d. 1848. v. Job, b. abt 1764, Burlington, NJ, d. bef. 16 May 1847.

William Rakestraw took as his 3rd wife, Elizabeth Archer m. 4 May 1705, Philadelphia. No other info on this Elizabeth. Children of William and Elizabeth Archer: i. Ann b. 1707, Long Island City, Queens, NY or Philadelphia, d. 9 Jul 1707. ii. Mary b abt 1708, Philadelphia. No further info. Thomas Rakestraw Jr., son of Thomas Rakestraw and Mary Wilkins b. abt 1718, Philadelphia or Burlington NJ is OUR GUY. He m. 1st Martha or Mary Knight, b. bet. 1677/1698, Philadelphia. No marriage date, no children listed. Married 2nd?Mary Mason, dau. of James Mason and Elizabeth. She was b. Bet. 1706 and 1746, Surry, Virginia or Burlington NJ and d. Bet. 1757 and 1784, Surry, VA or Burlington, NJ. Children of Thomas and Mary: i. Thomas Rakestraw III, b. 1740, Burlington, NJ, d. 20 Jul 1774, Philadelphia ii. Abraham, b.Abt 1744, Burlington, NJ, d. 1816 m. Mary Cranmer Morris dau. of? Anthony Morris and Sarah Cranmer. Abraham & Mary m. 2 Apr 1770, Burlington, Burlington, NJ. iii. Mary, b. Abt 1746, Burlington, NJ iv. Hannah, b. 26 Jun 1749, Burlington, NJ, d. 24 Jul 1828 v. Lucretia, b. 1758, Woodstown, Salem, NJ. Children of Abraham and Mary?Cranmer Morris: i. Sarah, b. 1777, Burlington, Burlington, NJ m. Thomas Wilson, b. 6 Jul 1795 at Old Springfield, Delaware, NJ. Thomas b. 1767, NJ. ii.Thomas Rakestraw IV, b. 13 Jul 1773, Burlington, NJ, d. 6 Jun 1842, m. Mary Lippincott, 13 Mar 1798, Chester MM, Burlington, NJ. Mary was b. 20 Aug 1776, Evesham, NJ, d. 27 Sep 1849. iii.Hannah, b. abt 1775, Burlington, NJ. iv. Mary, b. 17 Jul 1785, Burlington, NJ, d. Jan 1850, Putnam, IL. Mary m. William Wallen, b. 1785/1806, NJ, d. 12 Sep 1852, Hennepin, Putnam, IL, bu. Sand Prarie, Putnam, IL. v. Anthony, b. 1772/1787, Burlington, NJ. vi. Esther, b. 25 Jan 1790, Burlington, NJ. vii. Hannah, b. 26 Jun 1779, m. Abraham Haines (gave you this info the other day) viii. Lucretia, b. abt 1758, Woodstown, Salem, NJ. A small update to follow.

----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <nelhatch@hills.net> To: "HATCHERLIST" <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 5:33 PM Subject: [HATCHER] Now a Quaker questions......... > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D > Greenwood > >>From the Quaker Fairfax minutes.... > > Wm was rec'd on request with his YOUNGER children June 1754 %%%%%%Quakers maintained both Men's and Women's records. Sons were recorded in Men's records. > Ann and dau, Mary, rec'd Aug 1754 by Women's Mtg James b 7-3-1732 (Not identified here) rec'd on request Feb 1755 (some time uc) %%%under care- checking to verify that he is qualified%%% , m Catherine Nichols (not identidifed here) %%%% (Not identified here) means exactly what it says. This is probably a Hinshaw note and also the birthdate was probably to help him identify James and Catherine at a later date in other records. He put many records together that were not together in the original records. *What does "not identified here" mean? And why was his birth date noted while others were not? > > John rec'd on request Dec 1756 > > Thomas of Loudoun Co rec'd on request Oct 1761, md Rebecca Nichols 1773 > > *Why was he ID'd as "of LoudounCo"? %%% Fairfax MM at that time was in > Fairfax county, Virginia%%% > > It seems to me that only George, Wm Jr and Mary were his "younger > children" since we find no requests by them as individuals. But....what > was the age limit where children automatically became members as part of > their parents request? Under 18? Under 21? %%% Usually under 18 but at any age if the parents were already Quakers (called birthright members) %%% > Thomas is a problem. If this Tom was s/o Wm/Ann, he would have to have > been born 1743 (age 18 in 1761) or born 1740 (age 21 in 1761). But if born > 1740 or later, he would have been 11-14 when Wm/Ann became members in > 1754. If, as a child, he automatically became a member with his parents, > why then would he need to be rec'd on request in 1761? The other option > seems to be that he was 18-21 in 1754 so born before 1737. %%% Or Tom wasn't there at that time,%%% > SO confuzed.......... > > Nel > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood OK - Ed just checked in with a ton of Bucks images, Paul has given me some answers and Shirley has the Rakestraws - all that I need to work on. But just on what Ed sent, it appears that Nick of BucksCo had 1 son...named William. So....more tomorrow! Nel

William Rakestraw b. 1652 m Elizabeth Willis as his 2nd wife abt?29 Aug 1696, Long Island City, Queens, New York or England.?Elizabeth was the dau. of Henry Willis and Mary Pease. Elizabeth was b. abt 1658/60 at Devizes, Wiltshire, England and christened 25 Feb 1661, Warminster, St. Denys, Wiltshire, England. She d. 8 Oct 1700, Philadelphia. Children born to William and Elizabeth: i. Mary b. abt 1696, Long Island City, Queens, New York, d. bef. 1780. ii. Sarah b. 1697, Long Island City, Queens, New York, m. James Whitall abt 1717, NY. James was b. abt 1695, NY. iii. Elizabeth b. abt 1697 (twins?) d. 4 Sep 1707 iv. Susannah b. abt 1698, Long Island City, Queens, New York, d. 22 Dec 1708. v. Ann b. 1700, Long Island City, Queens, NY, d. 9 Jul 1707 Here is an interesting fact. Before Elizabeth m. William, she was married to Robert Zane abt 1681, Wiltshire, England son of Robert Zane b. abt 1614 and Wilmot_____ b. abt 1618. He was b. 29 Mar 1642, gives the same date for christening so he may have been born somewhat earlier. He died 1695. They had 8 children: i. Robert b. 1684/1691, Newton, Gloucester, NJ, d. 1774 ii. Simeon b. Abt 1685, Newton, Gloucester, NJ. iii. Mary?b. abt 1687, Newton Gloucester, NJ. iv. Elnathan b. abt 1689, Newton, Gloucester, NJ, d. 5 Oct 1732, Gloucester, NJ. v. Esther b. 1693, Newton, Gloucester, NJ, Esther m. Joshua Delaplaine 4 Oct 1716. vi. Sarah b. 1694, Newton, Gloucester, NJ, d. 1720, New Camden, Gloucester NJ. vii. William b. 1694, Newton, Gloucester, NJ. No further info. viii. Rachel b. abt 1695,?Newton, Gloucester, NJ, m. 1st Jonathan Peasley 1704, NY. Jonathan b. abt 1680, England.Second Rachel m. Samuel Pine 1 Apr 1720. Before Robert Zane m. Elizabeth he was married 1 Nov 1664 to Margaret Hammond, Dublin, Meath, Ireland. Margaret was ?b. 1641, Midlam, Yorkshire, England, d. 1670, Dublin, Meath, Ireland. Robert was a serge weaver. Emigrated from England in 1673. Settled in Salem where he has friends named Thompson. Moved in 1682 to Newton with Thomas Sharp. I believe the Sharps were Quakers. Robert and Margaret's children: i. Nathaniel b. 24 Oct 1670, Dublin, Meath, Ireland, d. 31 Dec 1728, Newton, Gloucester, West ). m. Grace Jane Rakestraw 27 Jun 1697, Newton Gloucester, NJ, Ohio or Philadelphia. (Interesting family ties!) Would that make Grace and Nathaniel step-siblings? ii. Robert Zane b. Abt 1664, Dublin Meath, Ireland. iii. Elnathan b. Abt 1664, Dublin, Meath, Ireland. Okay, that's the second installment, 3rd coming up.

Nel, Sorry, I swear that 7 looked like an 8. LOL!! She really didn't look that old in the photo. </HTML>

In a message dated 6/12/2008 12:59:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jimshirleyross@aol.com writes: > 9. William Andrew, 26 Nov 1712, NG, NJ, d. 1779, Wheeling, Ohio, Virginia, > m. Nancy Anne Nolan 1744 of Philadelphia or Berkley Virginia. Nancy Anne b. > 1723, Berkley, VA. Nel, is it possible that this Nancy Anne, who married William Andrew Zane, be the Nancy Ann Zane pictured in William Zane Hatcher's photo album? Her age in the era of the photo would be about right. It doesn't explain a connection but the name jumped out at me. Bob Hatcher Pennsy Bob </HTML>

Don't be confused, Nel. It's a common occurrence for a Thomas Hatcher to be a problem. Thomas G. Hatcher ----- Original Message ----- From: nelhatch To: HATCHERLIST Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:33 PM Thomas of Loudoun Co rec'd on request Oct 1761, md Rebecca Nichols 1773 *Why was he ID'd as "of LoudounCo"? Thomas is a problem... SO confuzed.......... Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood >From the Quaker Fairfax minutes.... Wm was rec'd on request with his YOUNGER children June 1754 Ann and dau, Mary, rec'd Aug 1754 by Women's Mtg James b 7-3-1732 (Not identified here) rec'd on request Feb 1755 (some time uc), m Catherine Nichols (not identidifed here) *What does "not identified here" mean? And why was his birth date noted while others were not? John rec'd on request Dec 1756 Thomas of Loudoun Co rec'd on request Oct 1761, md Rebecca Nichols 1773 *Why was he ID'd as "of LoudounCo"? It seems to me that only George, Wm Jr and Mary were his "younger children" since we find no requests by them as individuals. But....what was the age limit where children automatically became members as part of their parents request? Under 18? Under 21? Thomas is a problem. If this Tom was s/o Wm/Ann, he would have to have been born 1743 (age 18 in 1761) or born 1740 (age 21 in 1761). But if born 1740 or later, he would have been 11-14 when Wm/Ann became members in 1754. If, as a child, he automatically became a member with his parents, why then would he need to be rec'd on request in 1761? The other option seems to be that he was 18-21 in 1754 so born before 1737. SO confuzed.......... Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Bob, No way would your Nancy be Nancy Nolan bn 1723. Nolan would have been 150 yrs old in 1873...... Nel

Nel and all I did find a Thomas Zane in the 1880 Census for Bucks County. He was listed in the Sellersville section of Bucks County. Nel I will email copies later. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: <jimshirleyross@aol.com> To: <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 12:58 PM Subject: [HATCHER] William Rakestraw >I guess it's time I tell what little I have found out about the Rakestraws. >Not that there isn't information but it is somewhat conflicting. There are >several wives involved and it isn't easy deciding which children go with >which parents. I could follow the dates but they are conflicting as well. >But here goes: > > *William Rakestraw, b. abt 1652, Henley on Thames, Oxford England, son of > *Wlliam Rakestraw b. abt 1625, England, d. 5 Jan 1717/18, Philadelphia, > Philadelphia, PA. m. 1st *Grace Wyron 7 Jul 1672/73, Windsor, England, d. > 11 Jan 1694 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA. dau. of John Wyron and > Elizabeth. No more information on William b.1625. > > Children of William and Grace: > i. Elizabeth, b. abt 1673, no further info > ii. Pareluci, female, b. 1 Feb 1674, Henly on Thames, Oxford, England, > christened there 1 Apr 1675. No further info. > iii. Grace Jane Rakestraw b. 7 Apr 1674, Cornwall, England, d. 30 Sep 1700 > or 6 Dec 1741, Philadelphia, PA. m. 1st David Price, abt 1695, Cornwall > England b. abt 1672, Merion, New Jersey ( hey, that's what it said???)no > further info on David. m.?2nd ?Nathaniel Zane 27 Jun 1697, Newton, > Gloucester New Jersey, Ohio or Philadelphia. Nathaniel b. 24 Oct 1670, > Dublin, Meath, Ireland (yes, Ireland!) d. 31 Dec 1728, Newton, Gloucester, > NJ. Nathaniel Zane's father was Robert Zane, mother Margaret Hammond. > > No children with David Price that I have found. > > Children Zane: > 1. Mary b. 1 Nov 1698, Newton Gloucester, NJ. No further info. > 2. Margaret b. 12 Nov 1698, (twins 12 days apart)? Newton, Gloucester, NJ > or PA. m. James Caffrey est. b.?1675-1702, est. d.1727-1728. > 3. Abigail b. 17 Jul 1700, Newton Gloucester, NJ. No further info. > 4. Joseph b. 1 Aug 1702, Newton Gloucester, NJ. m. Mary Hinchman abt 1728 > Philadelphia. > 5. Hannah b. 19 Nov 1704, Newton Gloucester, NJ. No further info. > 6. Jonathan Zane b. 29 Sep 1706 NG, NJ, d. 19 Dec 1778, m. Mary Shenton 28 > Jun 1728, Philadelphia, Mary d. 19 Dec 1788. > 7. Ebenezer b. 7 Dec 1708, NG, NJ. No further info. > 8. Isaac b. 3 Mar 1710, NG, NJ. d. 7 Mar 1794, m. Sarah Gilbert, 15 Nov > 1733, Philadelphia. > 9. William Andrew, 26 Nov 1712, NG, NJ, d. 1779, Wheeling, Ohio, Virginia, > m. Nancy Anne Nolan 1744 of Philadelphia or Berkley Virginia. Nancy Anne > b. 1723, Berkley, VA. > > iv.Theophila, female, b. 31 May 1676, Henley on Thames, Oxford, England. > No further info. > v. Joseph, b. 18 Mar 1679, Oxford, England, d. 30 Sep 1700, Philadelphia, > m. Grace Bet. 1696/1699. > vi. John, b. 1685/1690, Oxford, England. No further info. > vii. William b. 1685/1690, Oxford, England, d. 1738, PA. m. Anne Smith 2 > Mar 1711, Philadelphia. > *viii. Thomas b. 1686, Oxford, England, d. 17 May 1728, PA. m. Mary > Wilkins 1718/1720, Philadelphia or Hannonfield, NJ. > > Note: Those with no further info listed means no apparent info. I still > need to dig deeper on those. Also several states records will need to be > utilized to find places and dates of birth since there are conflicting > reports. I haven't had time to do this yet. > > Next installment coming right up. > > Shirley Hatcher Ross > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1499 - Release Date: 6/12/2008 7:13 AM