Nel, I searched for the record of the bond of Nicholas Hatcher to John Boldwin, and found that it is part of a manuscript collection in the PA archieves called the Lucy Robbins Collection M-423. Gary

Nel, I'm sorry but I don't have more on the Nicholas Hatcher - John Baldwin bond. I found this when I googled "Nicholas Hatcher Bucks PA". I did find that John Baldwin was a prominent Quaker of Bristol Township owning a ferry crossing on Neshaminy Creek. Finding a record of this bond could provide a great deal of information. I was also wondering about the reference to Rebecca the wayward wife of Nicholas Hatcher. It would seem that this Nicholas might just be a son of the Nicholas that is referenced in 1725. It just seems that if this in the wife of the 1725 Nicholas she might be a bit old (this was 1764) to be carrying on in such a manner. That makes me think that perhaps she was the wife of a younger Nicholas (i.e. a son of Nicholas 1725) Gary

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood The first set of docs tells me that Rachel Hatcher was the mother of Wm Coates Hatcher, bn Burlington, NJ, based on a lawsuit between her and William Stokes. I also believe his brothers were Thomas and John, both bn in NJ based on other records. John is who I believe was the father of Wm Zane Hatcher. These recs mention she moved to Gloucester where I have a Wm in an early tax list - maybe c1765? Need to check that. I have to believe at this point that Rachel was a 2nd wife with her sons bn 1790-1800. My reasoning is that we have Hannah Hatcher bn 1775 who married Wm Stokes (same man in Rachel's lawsuit). The big gap between Hannah and the 3 boys indicates a 1st marriage for Wm OR we have another Hatcher daddy running loose somewhere. This is the Wm I suspect may be the son of Nicholas. Rachel's husband was Wm died c1806 and it is these records I'm still waiting for. A witness was Albert Zane who is still a mystery regarding his family. No info found on him to date. Another rec shows a Sarah Hatcher of GloucesterCo bn bef 1765 (and probably earlier) in a suit for trespass against John Gibbs. No idea if she's single or widowed. Haven't checked the other two docs yet but also have to get Bruce scanning them for me......... Moving right along...........! And I have a lot of catching up to do with all the non-NJ msgs coming in. Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood I just got my first request back from NJ Archives......22 pages of original documents......and some of the handwriting looks really small and sloppy :-( Nel

Great work, Nel. I am now hopeful--instead of my "not hopeful" of several days ago. Burnis **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

Nel, I am fully retired now and can transcribe today. I would love to transcribe now. If not this one, give me more to do later. WOO HOO Now I can play and do what I want to do. Jan Wilbanks

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood I've made changes to our file adding Nicholas as a brother (with caveats) of Wm/Ann as sons of an Unknown Hatcher. This is how I currently see this family....... Unk Hatcher (possibly an elder William) ....1) son Wm md Ann Van Sant ....2) son Nicholas md Rebecca LNU ........2a dau Mary md Stephen Sands ........2b son Wm md Rachel, died c1806 Burlington, NJ Joseph still remains a mystery and unsure of last name. I now have 4 requests sent to the NJ Archives and hopefully at least one may reveal more about Wm and Rachel. Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Jan, Will send it to you privately - thank you! It looks like it should be a fairly easy one. And congratulations on being OLD and retired :-) Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Bingo!! I've found the original land grant of 1744 for Wm Hatcher OF PENN. Now! Who wants to transcribe this deed? Step right up!! :-) Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Gary, I forgot to ask - do you have the complete source for the Nick to Baldwin bond record? Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood And here's the complete article from the newspaper........ Collection: The Pennsylvania Gazette Publication: The Pennsylvania Gazette Date: January 12, 1764 Title: WHEREAS Rebecca, the Wife of the Subscriber, of Middletown, WHEREAS Rebecca, the Wife of the Subscriber, of Middletown, in Bucks County, has misbehaved herself, and run him considerably in Debt; there are therefore to forbid all Persons trusting her on his Account, for he will pay no Debts of her contracting after the Date hereof. NICHOLAS HATCHER . Jan. 6, 1764 Now - the bond record of 1725 would seem to indicate Nick was at least 21 unless one could enter some sort of bond at age 18. I have not been able to put a firm bdate on Nick until now and that does make it possible that when Nick was bondsman for the marriage of Mary Hatcher (Sands), he was most likely her father. And this may be the reason why his name was on the 1760 Tax list but with no assessment - there were often exemptions on these taxes for "senior citizens." I'm also thinking we've GOT to find that 1724 BucksCo Tax list that Wm and Joseph Hatcher appeared on and hope it's not in alpha sequence. But I just noticed something on Wm/Ann's page...... >From Evelyn Avery: "William appears on the 1724 Bensalem, BucksCo, PA tax list as a wheelwright. He receives a Northern Neck Land Grant in what is now LoudounCo, VA in 1744." I think we need to find that land grant and I'm still thinking we have 2 Wms here - father and son. I think the LVA site has these land grants. Nel

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DorisPetty87 Surnames: Hatcher - Russell - Pifer - Wilson - Hudson - Robinson Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.hatcher/1863/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Charleston Gazette Kristina Marie Hatcher Kristina "Kris" Marie Hatcher, 25, of Sevierville, Tenn., passed away unexpectedly in her sleep Sunday, June 8, 2008, while visiting relatives. She was formerly of Hurricane, and graduated from Hurricane High School with the Class of 2001. She was the loving mother of her son, Camren, and daughter, Brooklyn. Also surviving are her husband, Elmo Russell; mom, Jill Hatcher of St. Albans; father, Richard Hatcher of St. Albans; brothers, C. J. Pifer of Hurricane and Mike Pifer of Tennessee; sisters, Samantha Hatcher, Kasandra Hatcher and Leslie Russell, all of St. Albans, Iona Wilson and Heather Lewis, both of Hurricane; grandparents, Calvin and Maxine Hudson and Stanley and Nancy Robinson, all of St. Albans; mother, Patricia Wilson of Kentucky. Funeral service will be 1 p.m. Thursday, June 12, 2008, at Allen Funeral Home with the Rev. Sonny Sovine officiating. Burial will follow in Mount Vernon Cemetery. Friends may call from 11 a.m. until the service time on Thursday at Allen Funeral Home, 2837 Main St., Hurricane. Kris could make any situation better than it could be. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DorisPetty87 Surnames: Hatcher - Woody - Dixon - Chapman Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.hatcher/1862/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Daily Times - Maryville, TN Howard Lee Hatcher Howard Lee Hatcher, age 72, of Alcoa, passed away Sunday, June 8, 2008, at UT Medical Center in Knoxville. He was a member of Armona Baptist Church, retired from ALCOA, and a member of the 25 year club. Preceded in death by parents, Beecher and Vella Dixon Hatcher; and brothers, Elmer C. Hatcher and Wrev Austin Hatcher. Survivors include daughter and son-in-law, Linda and Frankie Woody of Maryville; grandchildren, Susan and Megan Woody, both of Maryville; niece, Missy Hatcher of Maryville; aunt and uncle, Unav and Raymond Chapman of Alcoa; several cousins and many friends. Family and friends will meet 10 a.m. Wednesday morning, June 11, 2008, at Centenary Baptist Church Cemetery for the graveside service and interment, Rev. Bob Lawson and Rev. Bill Dixon officiating. The family will receive friends from 6-8 p.m. Tuesday at Miller Funeral Home, Maryville, (865) 982-6041, www.millerfuneralhome.org. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DorisPetty87 Surnames: Hatcher - Gilson - Godden - Counts - Wisdom - Courtney Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.hatcher/1860/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Salem News - Salem, MO Virginia Opal Hatcher Funeral service for Virginia Opal Hatcher was June 11, 2008 at Olhman Baptist Church, Bunker, with Bro. Terry Sharpe officiating. Arrangements were under the direction of James & Gahr Mortuary, Salem. Music was provided by Juanita May as soloist accompanied by Deiatre Gilliam. Interment was in the Cedar Grove Cemetery. Pallbearers were Kevin Counts, Sam Wisdom, Carl Counts, Chris Hoffman, Michael David Hatcher and Dee Dietrich. Mrs. Hatcher was born January 20, 1917 in Logan, Iowa, to Ernest and Gladys (Gilson) Godden. She married Harvey Hatcher. They were the parents of five children. Mrs. Hatcher died June 8, 2008 in Bunker at the age of 91 years, four months and 19 days. Survivors include her children, Richard Hatcher and wife, Eileen, Arnold; Virginia Counts and husband, Carl, Republic; Stephen Hatcher and wife, Vickie, Mulberry, Ark.; Michael Hatcher and wife, Sheila, Bunker; and Sheryl Wisdom and husband, Sam, Bunker; 12 grandchildren; 12 great-grandchildren; one great-great-grandson; and extended family and friends. Preceding her in death were her parents; her husband; and one sister, Elsie Courtney. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Adelaide Wilhelmena Elkins Hatcher Graveside services for Adelaide Wilhelmena Elkins Hatcher of Monticello, Fla. for the past six years and formerly of Thomasville for the past 50 years, are at 10 a.m., Saturday, June 14, 2008, at Laurel Hill Cemetery in Thomasville. The Rev. Andy Creele will officiate. Mrs. Hatcher died June 12 at her residence whom she shared with her nephew for 22 years. Born Jan. 13, 1916, in Knoxville, Tenn., she was a daughter of Ellis Woodson Elkins and Amelia Pauline Meng. On June 18, 1932, in St. Petersburg, Fla., she married Ancel Dennis Hatcher who preceded her in death. She was retired owner and operator of H and H Pest Control since 1934 working with her husband and a business school graduate. Survivors include nephew, Jimmy Hayes of Plant City, Fla.; niece, Rita Hays of Thomasville; great-nephew, Billy Hays of Monticello; nephew, Johnny Roberts of St. Petersburg, Fla.; and numerous other nieces and nephews. She was preceded in death by her husband; a brother, Sonny Ellis; four sisters, Julianna Dupree, Victoria Lipsey, Margaret Folsome, Virginia Roberts; and a nephew, William Lawrence Hays III. The family will receive friends from 6:30 to 8 p.m., today at the funeral home. — Whiddon-Shiver Funeral Home (H & H was for Hayes & Hatcher Families.)

Yet another record 1725, March 25 - bond, Nicholas Hatcher to John Baldwin of B r i s t o l Township, Bucks County

Here's an interesting addtion: Runaway Wives: 1730-1779 Category : Society and Culture Published by Anonymous on 2007/7/15 Elopements and Other Miscreant Deeds of Women as Advertised in The Pennsylvania Gazette Such was the title of the article written by Judith A. Meier for the Pennsylvania Genealogy Magazine and, as such, it would be hard not to read further. The article itself is very lengthy and so I'll restrict myself to merely abstracting some of the most interesting information contained within the article. If nothing else, the article gives valuable information regarding the names of the parties involved. Bear in mind, when reading these, that elopement in those days meant leaving one's spouse. 12 Jan 1764 Rebecca, wife of Nicholas Hatcher Middletown, Bucks Co, Misbehavior Keep Looking, Gary

What does all this matter.??? Lets Move on to real HATCHER research. I never heard anything about my question about death certificate of Lucy Ellen Hatcher . ----- Original Message ----- From: <BrunetteGiraffe@aol.com> To: <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] ???? > If you do a google search on "subject line" and "question marks" you will > find a few different reasons why the question marks are inserted into the > subject > line. Usually it has to do with the way the characters in the subject line > are translated by your mail server. > > Just my two cents... > > Patricia > > > > **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best > 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you do a google search on "subject line" and "question marks" you will find a few different reasons why the question marks are inserted into the subject line. Usually it has to do with the way the characters in the subject line are translated by your mail server. Just my two cents... Patricia **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

In a message dated 6/13/2008 2:12:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jimshirleyross@aol.com writes: Why do the question marks at the top of the page appear when I send and e-mail. I didn't put them there and I don't recall seeing them when I send other e-mail to other addresses? Your best bet is to check with your ISP (AOL). I have AOL but do not have that problem. Good luck, Doris "Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder, and your hand over my mouth" **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)