HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Good morning, cuzins! Yesterday we rec'd results for our NY Hatcher from England and we now have our 3rd tester matching the Kent, England family. This family came from Kent to NY, OH and WI. And you may not remember Ebenezer Hatcher of GA but his test results are very rare and for over at least 2 yrs has never had a match to anyone, regardless of surname.........until yesterday. This match is quite intriguing since Eben matched to a family out of Scituate, MA going back to the 1500s. Their surname? HATCH! I find this interesting because we have an unc Hatcher family that I've tracked back to MD to a Thomas Hatcher bn bef 1683 whose name in the records is as often Hatch as it is Hatcher. His father may have been a John Hatch bn bef 1634 whose records are consistently spelled Hatch. One descendant, if my research is correct, is a John Hatcher bn c1820 in MD who ended up in KY. So far, I've never had a contact for this family. The results we're receiving lately are opening up more and more possibilities for matches, particularly for those of you with Unc Hatchers. The special sale for $119 on the 37 marker test will continue thru Sept 30th. If you're still vacillating, pondering, considering, procrastinating, don't wait too long! Contact me if you have questions and I'll be happy to work with you. Cheers, Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Good morning, Y'all, In case you're wondering why I've been so quiet, I've been very busy working on the family of our newest Brit DNA tester. I now have his family back to a James and Sarah Hatcher of Somerset. I've created a separate file for this family named "English Hatchers from Somerset." What I've done is placed a number of Hatchers on this file with roots in Somerset, not knowing at this point if or how they may connect. Heather, who answered my call (the first of three and thanks to all) for subbers to Ancestry world, helped tremendously by pulling English censi for me as we worked to put this family together. But last nite, while surfing for anything I could find on Somerset records, I discovered a marvelous English research site. http://freereg.rootsweb.com/search/index.htm I'd seen this site many eons ago but they really seem to have made great strides in adding birth, marriage, death records from the parish/church registers for all counties. It is this site that gave me James and Sarah as parents of the Wm Hatcher we are working with. Any of you researching in England MUST check out this site. I suspect I could keep busy for 1/2 year just pulling Hatcher docs off this site. And just to give a few of you a chuckle and perhaps say Hmmmm, this Wm Hatcher, bn c1815, was a master WHEELWRIGHT :-) I know our Brit tester has subbed to our mailing list but will leave it up to him if he wishes to identify himself by name. That goes back to my responsibility as DNA Group Admin to not ID testers by name without their permission. Cheers, Nel

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DorisPetty87 Surnames: Hatcher - Warren - Allen - Hodges - Pratt - Best - Gordon - Dowdney Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.hatcher/1921/mb.ashx Message Board Post: John D. Hatcher Retired John Douglas Hatcher, 88, of Blakely died Thursday, May 10, 2007, at Early Memorial Hospital. Mr. Hatcher was born in Early County Jan. 1, 1919, to the late John D. Hatcher and Katie Warren Hatcher. He was a member of Hentown Church of Christ and a retired farmer and Early County Road Department employee. He was preceded in death by his wife, Hazel Allen Hatcher. Suvivors include, four daughters, Phyllis Hodges, Mary Ellen Hatcher and Carolyn Pratt, all of Blakely, and Sheila Elizabeth Best of Pine Mountain; two sisters, Rozetta Gordon of Panama City and Beatrice Dowdney of Norman Park; six grandchildren; and eight great-grandchildren. Funeral services were Saturday, May 12, 2007, at 2 p.m. at Hentown Church of Christ with Rob Argersinger officiating. Interment followed at Flat Creek Cemetery. Pallbearers were Stanley Houston, Milton Johnson, Jerry Creel, Ted Warren, Stacy Gordon and Scott Warren. Manry-Jordan-Hodges was in charge of arrangemnents. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The entry re: James E. Hatcher, wife Anne E., came from an online database: The Alabama Supreme Court on Slaves by Dwayne Cox http://www.lib.auburn.edu/archive/aghy/slaves.htm Sorry I forgot to include this link before. It doesn't mention a county, but it sounds as if that's all straightened out...... Wondered if anyone has access to the Lexus/Nexus law database? I have signed up for a free mini-version, which provides complete transcripts of all US Supreme Court Cases, but for individual states only provides case transcriptions for the last 10 years. Is there a lawyer on the list who can tell me if there is any online access to State Supreme Court Case transcriptions? There are cases in Louisiana and Alabama in the 1800's involving my Cato family that I would like to research. Thanks! Cynthia

Name: James F. Hatcher Papers Dates: 1900-1993 (bulk 1940-1989) Extent: 23.5 cubic feet http://www.uab.edu/historical/mc016.htm Manuscripts Photographs Artificial collections created by removing photographs from Manuscript Collections. * PMC16, James F. Hatcher Photographs. http://www.uab.edu/historical/photos.html

Ran across this while searching cases decided in the Alabama Supreme Court, and thought it might be of interest to someone. I didn't search the Hatcher Family site, as I have no idea who this Hatcher belongs to... There may well be some interesting documents in the actual record of this case. Often they included wills and extracts from wills. The Alabama Supreme Court on Slaves. by Dwayne Cox. "In 1812 James E. Hatcher executed a deed of gift for certain slaves to his wife, Anne E. Hatcher. The clerk of the county court recorded the deed. Mrs. Hatcher died in 1844, but left two sons. Following her husband's death, the sons sued his executor, Allen Clifton, to recover damages for conversion of the slaves. The lower court ruled in favor of Clifton because in 1812 recording of such a deed was not among the official duties of the clerk of the court. Furthermore, the original deed did not exist, only a copy. On appeal, Judge Stone agreed. Hatcher v Clifton, 35 Alabama 275 (1859). "

The son James E. Hatcher was the son of James Hatcher of Dallas Co. I donot know why James died but he left the slaves to his wife.According to Nel, he was the descendent of Thomas and Wilmouth/ I still have him listed as a son of Robert Hatcher. Descendants of James E. Hatcher Generation No. 1 1. James E.6 Hatcher (James5, Robert4, Jeremiah3, Benjamin Sr.2, William1) was born 1816, and died in Dallas Co.Alabama. He married Ann E. Unknown 1836 in Dallas Co.Alabama. She was born Abt. 1815 in Dallas Co.Alabama, and died 1844 in Dallas Co. Alabama. Notes for James E. Hatcher: Thomas G. Rainer was the guardian. James E. was born in 1816 so the date of 1812 could not be correct The date was more likely 1842. In 1842 James E. Hatcher executed a deed of gift for certain slaves to his wife, Anne E. Hatcher. The clerk of the county court recorded the deed. Mrs. Hatcher died in 1844, but left two sons. Following her husband's death, the sons sued his executor, Allen Clifton, to recover damages for conversion of the slaves. The lower court ruled in favor of Clifton because in 1812 recording of such a deed was not among the official duties of the clerk of the court. Furthermore, the original deed did not exist, only a copy. On appeal, Judge Stone agreed. Hatcher v Clifton, 35 Alabama 275 (1859). Notes for Ann E. Unknown: Court Case HatcherVS Clifton, June Term 1859 statement is made that her death occured in 1844.Buried in Hatcher Cemetery , Hatcher Bluff, Dallas Co. Alabama. Headstone reads: Beneath this tomb in Peaceful Sleep her Mortal Body lies,surviving friends,forbears to weep for virtue never dies. Children of James Hatcher and Ann Unknown are: 2 i. William Henry7 Hatcher, born 1837 in Dallas Co.Alabama. Notes for William Henry Hatcher: William Henry Hatcher ,name # 72 Cahaba Rifles C.S.A. Enlisted April 10, 1861 at Cahaba, by Capt. C.C. Pegues, for one year.; wounded in battleMay 31st., 1862 at Seven Pines, Va.; captured at South Mountain September 14th,promotedfirst corporal May 1,1863 ; captured at Chancellor's ville May 3rd., 1863. Grandson of Martha Tate and James Hatcher, son of James E.and Ann E. Hatcher 3 ii. James A. Hatcher, born Bef. 1842 in Dallas Co. Alabama. Notes for James A. Hatcher: Cahaba Rifles , Dallas County, Alabama ,Name # 73 James Hatcher,enlisted C.S.A. April 10, 1861 at Cahaba,by Captain C. C. Pegues,for one year, discharged October29 for disability. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia Benua" <cbenua@msn.com> To: "HATCHER" <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 7:21 AM Subject: [HATCHER] James E. Hatcher, ALA, wife Anne E. c 1812 > Ran across this while searching cases decided in the Alabama Supreme > Court, and thought it might be of interest to someone. I didn't search > the Hatcher Family site, as I have no idea who this Hatcher belongs to... > > There may well be some interesting documents in the actual record of this > case. Often they included wills and extracts from wills. > > The Alabama Supreme Court on Slaves. by Dwayne Cox. > > "In 1812 James E. Hatcher executed a deed of gift for certain slaves to > his wife, Anne E. Hatcher. The clerk of the county court recorded the > deed. Mrs. Hatcher died in 1844, but left two sons. Following her > husband's death, the sons sued his executor, Allen Clifton, to recover > damages for conversion of the slaves. The lower court ruled in favor of > Clifton because in 1812 recording of such a deed was not among the > official duties of the clerk of the court. Furthermore, the original deed > did not exist, only a copy. On appeal, Judge Stone agreed. Hatcher v > Clifton, 35 Alabama 275 (1859). " > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cynthia wrote: "In 1812 James E. Hatcher executed a deed of gift for certain slaves to his wife, Anne E. Hatcher" Cynthia, Is there a county mentioned anywhere? Thanks, Winnette

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood James E Hatcher is s/o James/Martha Tate of DallasCo, AL. Nel

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HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood And an instant response from Sandi....... "I haven't seen the Bible - Eva Coe Peden copied it - don't know when or where!!" Sandi

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Dan, Sandi Gorin posted the bible almost 10 yrs ago. Sandi specializes in general KY research but not specific families so she is not a Hatcher descendant and it is likely she herself has never seen the originals. But it is possible she may know where they are. http://boards.ancestry.ca/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.barren/2906/mb.ashx She only states it was "copied" but does not state by whom. Nel

Dan, Please do post the scans, or send the pages to me by attachment to me at mplamkin@insightbb.com. Henry and Nancy are my 4Ggrandparents. Thank you very much. Martha Penick LAMKIN, Louisville, KY (born in Green Co. KY) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Rolph" <dan@rolph.com> Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Family Bible of Henry and Nancy Hatcher > Nel, > > Thank you very much for the information. I would just love to get my > hands on some scans of that bible. What are the origins of the > transcription? > > With my SAR research, I have a copy of a letter from Robert White, > Clerk of Adair County Court, Columbia, Kentucky, dated 11 June, 1962 > to Mrs. Sherman B. Watson. The letter testifies that Jeremiah Hatcher > and Polly Waggener were married on 11 June 1811. The minister was > Isaac Hadgen. The record comes from Marriage Book No. 1 Page 27. > > There is also a 2 page letter from John Paul Grady to Mrs Watson dated > 22 November, 1962, referencing a DAR application for Mrs. Pearl > Hatcher Morrison. The letter provides "necessary proof" that Jeremiah > Hatcher (b.1785) was a son of Nancy "Ann" (Haskins) Hatcher. The > proof uses the 1810 and 1820 Federal Censuses, Marriage Records, and > the 1815 Tax Roll of Green County to show that Jeremiah must have been > Henry's son. Basically, it establishes that, as you say, it would be > a stretch to assume this Jeremiah was not the son of Henry. > > If anyone would like me to post scans of the three pages, drop me a > line. > > If anyone has any other proof of the Jeremiah to Henry relationship, I > would definitely be interested. > > Thank you very much, > > Dan Rolph > > "Henry Hatcher's (b.1755) 4th great grandson"

Nel, Thank you very much for the information. I would just love to get my hands on some scans of that bible. What are the origins of the transcription? With my SAR research, I have a copy of a letter from Robert White, Clerk of Adair County Court, Columbia, Kentucky, dated 11 June, 1962 to Mrs. Sherman B. Watson. The letter testifies that Jeremiah Hatcher and Polly Waggener were married on 11 June 1811. The minister was Isaac Hadgen. The record comes from Marriage Book No. 1 Page 27. There is also a 2 page letter from John Paul Grady to Mrs Watson dated 22 November, 1962, referencing a DAR application for Mrs. Pearl Hatcher Morrison. The letter provides "necessary proof" that Jeremiah Hatcher (b.1785) was a son of Nancy "Ann" (Haskins) Hatcher. The proof uses the 1810 and 1820 Federal Censuses, Marriage Records, and the 1815 Tax Roll of Green County to show that Jeremiah must have been Henry's son. Basically, it establishes that, as you say, it would be a stretch to assume this Jeremiah was not the son of Henry. If anyone would like me to post scans of the three pages, drop me a line. If anyone has any other proof of the Jeremiah to Henry relationship, I would definitely be interested. Thank you very much, Dan Rolph "Henry Hatcher's (b.1755) 4th great grandson" On Sep 4, 2008, at 1:43 PM, nelhatch wrote: > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D > Greenwood > > Dan, > > The bible entries for Henry/Nancy Haskins were entered from a > transcript. I do not have copies of the original. > > The only other evidence we have that Jeremiah/Mary Waggener was > Henry's son is his marriage date. The Bible states June 1811 and the > Researchers Publication. Adair County, Kentucky records this > marriage between Jeremiah and Mary being June 11, 1811 - two > different sources matching each other. > > Jeremiah lived in AdairCo until 1820 when he returned to GreenCo > where his father and other family members were living. It would be a > stretch to assume this Jeremiah was NOT the son of Henry. > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Yes, I recvd your messages on DNA updates and I received this message on Sep 4 @1056am.  Bob --- On Thu, 9/4/08, Janice Deason <jdeason@panhandle.rr.com> wrote: From: Janice Deason <jdeason@panhandle.rr.com> Subject: Re: [HATCHER] HATCHER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 318 To: hatcher@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 10:56 AM 9-3, 7:23pm ----- Original Message ----- From: <hatcher-request@rootsweb.com> To: <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:11 AM Subject: HATCHER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 318 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. List problems........... (nelhatch) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:38:24 -0600 > From: "nelhatch" <nelhatch@hills.net> > Subject: [HATCHER] List problems........... > To: "HATCHERLIST" <hatcher@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00d401c90d1a$52072300$0301a8c0@FAMILY> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D > Greenwood > > Folks, > > We are having problems with this list and they seem to be very erratic. It > seems Ancestry is moving lists to new servers since sometime late last > week. > > I have sent msgs to the list that I (eventually) receive but that do not > appear on the list archives. > > I am seeing msgs in the archives that I've not rec'd. > > I have sent msgs that I have not yet rec'd (days later) and that do not > appear in the archives. > > Erratic! > > I am particularly interested in knowing if any of you rec'd my msgs on > 8-29 and 8-31 titled "DNA updates." I rec'd both of these msgs on 8-31 but > neither appears in the archives. > > I am sending this msg at 10:37 MT, Sept 2. I would also like to hear from > those of you who receive this msg and WHAT TIME/DAY you rec'd it. > > PLEASE contact me privately at nelhatch@hills.net. Do not send your > response to the list. > > Thanks! > Nel > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the HATCHER list administrator, send an email to > HATCHER-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the HATCHER mailing list, send an email to > HATCHER@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of HATCHER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 318 > *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ysdhv Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2008, at 12:12 PM, "nelhatch" <nelhatch@hills.net> wrote: > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D > Greenwood > > Cuzins, > > Now that our email list appears back to normal, I will be catching > up with msgs I've not yet responded to, simply because I wasn't sure > they'd even hit the list. > > In the meantime, Heather has been working to find the family of our > latest tester from London/South Africa. So far, assuming she's found > the right family, we've got him back to 1881 in Wiltshire.....most > interesting location since this is where Wm/Marion Newport were > married. > > But 1613 and 1881 is still a pretty huge gap :-) > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Received this one 8/31/08 Scarlett > > Hey Y'all > > We've acquired a few new DNA testers taking advantage of a great sale. > > 1) A Waccamaw Hatcher test > > 2) A descendant of Henry/Nancy Haskins > > 3) A descendant of Jonathan/Nancy Lipps > > And I'm expecting 1 more test to come in - a really, really, really interesting one from a most unusual source. But that's all I'll say for now....until I actually see the order :-) > > But this is also a last call for those (and I do hope there are more) who might still be considering testing. Just 2 more days to take advantage of that $70 drop in price. > > Cheers, > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Received 9/3/08 Scarlett > > Hey Y'all > > We've acquired a few new DNA testers taking advantage of a great sale. > > 1) A Waccamaw Hatcher test > > 2) A descendant of Henry/Nancy Haskins > > 3) A descendant of Jonathan/Nancy Lipps > > 4) And - a really, really, really interesting one from a most unusual source. We now have a tester whose family was from London, now in South Africa! > > FTDNA has also announced they will be continuing their great sale until Sept 30th! So if there are those among you (and I do hope there are more) who might still be considering testing - you now have 32 more days to take advantage of that $70 drop in price. > > Cheers, > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HATCHER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Dan, The bible entries for Henry/Nancy Haskins were entered from a transcript. I do not have copies of the original. The only other evidence we have that Jeremiah/Mary Waggener was Henry's son is his marriage date. The Bible states June 1811 and the Researchers Publication. Adair County, Kentucky records this marriage between Jeremiah and Mary being June 11, 1811 - two different sources matching each other. Jeremiah lived in AdairCo until 1820 when he returned to GreenCo where his father and other family members were living. It would be a stretch to assume this Jeremiah was NOT the son of Henry. Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "If you can't stand the skeletons, stay out of the closet" - Val D Greenwood Kay, I assume you are referring to Richard Hatcher of MorganCo, IL (my husband's line). No, I've found no RW service in this line. The only eligible candidate would have been his gfather, also a Richard, and there's nothing in his records showing service of any kind. Nel