Vivian, One quick suggestion / request: Please join the Hatcher DNA project at FTDNA. You can follow this link, then log in: https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?code=T80694&Group=Hatcher If you join the project, the admins can then look at your data to see what they (we) can determine. It looks like this is the Frances Hatcher, b. ca 1800 you mentioned in your email. I don't have any new information on her or the family generally. http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/getperson.php?personID=I41114&tree=WmTheIm Unfortunately, we don't have many DNA project members closely related to you. One descends from an uncle of your Frances R. Hatcher, Bartlett W Hatcher (1801-1857). We don't have any others along that line down from "Wm the Im." Alas, he took only the Y-DNA test, and not the FamilyFinder test. He also died over a decade ago. Here he is in the tree: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/getperson.php?personID=I41461&tree=WmTheIm As he passed away without giving us any particular permissions, we can't order additional tests for him. Regards, William On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 3:30 PM vtoole <vtoole@exede.net> wrote: > Hello to the Hatcher group, > I can help at least with the expansion of the autosomnal DNA part > of the Hatcher Family Association Projects. > If anyone has done the Family Finder test through > familytereedna.com in Houston and you have a match to me, Vivian Toole > Cates, please let me hear from you. I am still not sure if I have a > Hatcher > line. Even if I have a Hatcher line, I may not have gotten any part of the > Hatcher DNA. While I have some understanding of DNA, I am still having > some > problems understanding some of it because I don't deal with it on an > everyday basis. I did my test in May 2015 and now have over 6,000 matches > most distantly so. Why people spend money on the test but never answer > their e-mail and/or never post a pedigree chart is beyond me. > My Hatcher connection is to Alfred Hatcher b. c. 1800 d.c. 1868 on > the 1850 census of Edgefield District, South Carolina. I still do not have > positive proof as to whether he was the biological father or stepfather of > my ancestor, Frances {_?_] b.c. 1842 who was living in his household in > 1850 > and 1860. The 1860 census is somewhat scrambled. I will not try to > explain > that here. I still think that he was more likely a step father. > It has been sometime since I worked on this line. I have never > been > able to contact the person who posted some of the information about Alfred > Hatcher and some of that information might not be correct. Frances might > not be a Hatcher, She just used that name. > There was a lawsuit in the 1870's in Edgefield District/County, > South Carolina. The heirs of Alfred Hatcher's brother, John(?), were suing > Rice Swearingen whom it appears had married Alfred's Hatcher's widow for > possession of Alfred's land. The provision in their father's will was that > if Alfred had no children, his land at his death was to go to his brother's > heirs. > I have copies of some of the suit papers, but not the ones that > show > how the dispute was settled or who got the land and who now has possession > of the land * the exact location on an Edgefield County map.. Who won the > suite? Frances {_?_} b.c. 1842 d. before 1880 married James Whitlock, Jr. > and they had several children including a daughter, Emma Frances Whitlock > who married Ed/Edward/Edmund Carpenter about 1884. Their oldest child, > Alice Leigh Carpenter b. 1885 was my paternal grandmother. The family > moved from Edgefield County, South Carolina, across the Savannah River to > Augusta, Georgia, after the 1900 census. The older children took jobs in > the textile mills there. > Right now, earlier today, the personal match sites on the > familytreedna.com website were still not working as they were advertised > to > be upgraded by November 30th. > We got "totaled" in the series of tornadoes that hit Alto in South > Cherokee County, Texas, about 60 miles south of Tyler on Saturday afternoon > April 13th. We lost our four bedroom house of 39 years, car, pickup truck > and three bay detached garage/barn, most all of our yard trees and a lot of > pasture fencing. Most of my genealogy books and other "stuff" survived. > Just some still in storage and the rest very unorganized. At the age of 76 > and 84 our retirement plan did not include tearing down our house and > "glamping" in manufactured housing. So I am typing this from memory and I > don't remember these names as well as I once did. One of the tornadoes > followed right along Highway 21 and took the relatives standing timber, > trees and pasture fences in Houston County, then crossed the Neches River > and hit the Caddo Mounds State Historic Site Museum, our house place, and a > cousins 380 cow dairy, etc. plus other places along the road and around > town. Reallly tore up the public school to the tune of a new 10 plus > million bond issue. > Vivian Toole Cates, Mound Prairie Ranch, 2403 State Highway 21 West, Alto, > Texas 75925-5706 1-936-858-3801 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hatcher Families Association [mailto:ban8ball@alabama.shnw.net] > Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 7:26 AM > To: vtoole@exede.net > Subject: Hatcher Family Genealogy Update - Nov 2019 > > Greetings! > > It's been a long time since I last sent out a Hatcher update. Please accept > my apologies for the delay. Since last I sent out word, I started a > demanding new job and moved. I've recently been laid off, so have a bit > more > time at the moment. I have a few topics for this message: > > Yes, we're still alive > General website updates > Updates on the DNA project: > - A Y-DNA test identified a new family with over 60 members > - Some very interesting news on deep background of Henrico Hatcher DNA > - We're working on expanding to autosomnal DNA and want more information > - Tests are on very deep discount at FTDNA and Ancestry.com through Monday > We're working on a list of projects that others could take on > > Organization: > Bill and I and the board members of the Hatcher Families Genealogy > Association are all still involved, keeping the organization going, and the > website up. James still managed state and federal forms from Virginia. Bill > Schultz serves as the president of the organization. > > Website: > The website is still up and running. We have the latest major version of > the > TNG software on the server. That new version added the ability to log, > track, and compare DNA results Our hosting company has made some tweaks > that > make the site easier to manage, and uptime seems very good over the past > year. > > We now show a total of 1274 user registrations, 52,491 individuals in the > "Wm the Im" tree, 9047 in the Quaker, Dorset, and Newfoundland tree, and > nearly 10,000 in our other Hatcher trees. Bill and I continue to approve > new > user registrations, to query new registered site users for their > connections, and incorporate changes. New users often have data on their > families to contribute, and many times those will lead to others, at > FindAGrave, in cemetery websites, FamilySearch.org, and elsewhere. As > always, you can see our most recent updates on the "What's New" page: > http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/whatsnew.php > > We're considering other options for the web site, in addition to the > database. One would be a blog, where we could post significant updates. > Another would be a "forum" where site users could communicate and > coordinate > projects. We'll let you know if we decide to add such features, and how you > might use them. > > DNA project: > The DNA project at FamilyTreeDNA.com now has 214 members. One of the latest > members took a Y-DNA test, and has results that match only two others in > the > entire FTDNA database. This identified a disconnected family as not tied to > any of our existing families. We'll work to flesh out further details. > > We now have 24 project members who have upgraded to "Big Y" tests. Those > descended from "William the Immigrant" match each other very well. The > folks > at FTDNA show the nearest matches not part of our project differ from our > "Henrico County" men by at least 30 unique changes (Single Nucleide > Polymorphisms or "SNPs "). The project with the most closely-related men is > the McCarthy project, working on Irish genealogy, and in particular on > descendants of the "Kings of Cashel" of the tenth century. The men in their > family that most closely matches "Wm the Im" all carry a specific change > (SNP) that our Henrico Hatchers do not. This means that Wm descended from > ancestors of those Irish kings. They have a large number of project > members, > and have identified specific changes for different branches of their tree, > and have an estimated date for their distinctive SNP. They project that it > took place in about the year 1040 BC. So much for any paper trail > connecting > the Hatchers to the Kings of Cashel! > > At this point, FTDNA uses the SNP Y34483 to identify the branch of the > complete Human race Y-tree for Hatcher men. All our Henrico men carry that > distinct marker, and nobody else does. Mind, FTDNA lists over 30 such SNPs > carried by all the Hatcher men and nobody else. So far, no kit from any man > not in our project yet shows carrying of any of those "Hatcher-only" SNPs. > We have no way of knowing if our Hatcher line represents a long series of > lone survivors, only sons, and other bottlenecks, or if tens of thousands > of > other men carry some of the Hatcher SNPs, but just haven't tested yet. > > For a presentation on the migration of the men leading to our branch's > arrival in the British Isles, you can check this out: > http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html?snp=Y34483 > The link above shows the migration from about 150,000 years ago to about > 1000 or so ago to the neolithic, perhaps about the time of the split from > the Irish KIngs. (They place the date of the split of our Hatchers from the > Kings of Cashel at only about 950 AD.) Look at the different tabs for more > information, including a way to animate a marker on the timeline. > > You can display the tree of Y-chromosome splits down to "the Hatcher > branch" > at this URL: > https://www.familytreedna.com/public/y-dna-haplotree/R;name=R-Y34483 > > You can browse the Big Tree of Y-DNA branches. The block showing the Y34483 > SNP carried by the Hatcher men, and distance to three nearest related men > (Armstrong, Harrington, and Hodges) appears here: > https://www.ytree.net/DisplayTree.php?blockID=6 > Those three men are to the right of the Hatcher men, and the Irish folks > are > the next block to our left. > > I know that all of the above may be heavy going for folks who aren't > immersed in DNA genealogy. I intend to pull together a summary presentation > soon, but wanted to get this message out without waiting to finish that. > > Soliciting DNA information > To date, our main focus in DNA testing has involved Y-DNA tests, starting > all the way back in 2002, with Nel making important discoveries. We now > hope > to use autosomnal DNA tests to further our efforts. To that end, we would > like to know: > - Who has taken an autosomnal DNA test (FTDNA FamilyFinder, Ancestry.com, > or > 23andMe.com)? > - Who has transferred their raw data to GEDmatch.com or another site? > - If you have data at GEDmatch.com, will you send us your kit number? > - Who has worked to look for genetic cousins, triangulated segments, > analyzed clusters of matches, or otherwise gone beyond the basics with > autosomnal DNA Working with autosomnal DNA looks like it will take > significantly more work per kit than Y-DNA has. If you can help with the > work, please let us know! > > Seeking volunteers / project leaders / etc. > We'd like to find ways for more folks to get involved in the Hatcher > project. We're looking for both projects and project leaders. Possible > projects include: > - Mapping early Hatchers in England. One could start with the data in our > database, or with the International Genealogical Index on FamilySearch.org, > and use Google My Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/d/) or another tool to > plot the locations. > - Working with the 1940 census records to track our existing Hatcher > families > - Working with English census records to identify and connect families over > there. > > Does anyone have any project that they'd care to lead? > > Please email us at hfga@googlegroups.com with any comments, questions, or > concerns. Thanks! > > William Watson > Hatcher Families Genealogy Association > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Hatcher Families Genealogy Association" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to hfga+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hfga/000601d5a89f%243e1afc40%24ba50f4c0%24%40exede.net > . >

Hello to the Hatcher group, I can help at least with the expansion of the autosomnal DNA part of the Hatcher Family Association Projects. If anyone has done the Family Finder test through familytereedna.com in Houston and you have a match to me, Vivian Toole Cates, please let me hear from you. I am still not sure if I have a Hatcher line. Even if I have a Hatcher line, I may not have gotten any part of the Hatcher DNA. While I have some understanding of DNA, I am still having some problems understanding some of it because I don't deal with it on an everyday basis. I did my test in May 2015 and now have over 6,000 matches most distantly so. Why people spend money on the test but never answer their e-mail and/or never post a pedigree chart is beyond me. My Hatcher connection is to Alfred Hatcher b. c. 1800 d.c. 1868 on the 1850 census of Edgefield District, South Carolina. I still do not have positive proof as to whether he was the biological father or stepfather of my ancestor, Frances {_?_] b.c. 1842 who was living in his household in 1850 and 1860. The 1860 census is somewhat scrambled. I will not try to explain that here. I still think that he was more likely a step father. It has been sometime since I worked on this line. I have never been able to contact the person who posted some of the information about Alfred Hatcher and some of that information might not be correct. Frances might not be a Hatcher, She just used that name. There was a lawsuit in the 1870's in Edgefield District/County, South Carolina. The heirs of Alfred Hatcher's brother, John(?), were suing Rice Swearingen whom it appears had married Alfred's Hatcher's widow for possession of Alfred's land. The provision in their father's will was that if Alfred had no children, his land at his death was to go to his brother's heirs. I have copies of some of the suit papers, but not the ones that show how the dispute was settled or who got the land and who now has possession of the land * the exact location on an Edgefield County map.. Who won the suite? Frances {_?_} b.c. 1842 d. before 1880 married James Whitlock, Jr. and they had several children including a daughter, Emma Frances Whitlock who married Ed/Edward/Edmund Carpenter about 1884. Their oldest child, Alice Leigh Carpenter b. 1885 was my paternal grandmother. The family moved from Edgefield County, South Carolina, across the Savannah River to Augusta, Georgia, after the 1900 census. The older children took jobs in the textile mills there. Right now, earlier today, the personal match sites on the familytreedna.com website were still not working as they were advertised to be upgraded by November 30th. We got "totaled" in the series of tornadoes that hit Alto in South Cherokee County, Texas, about 60 miles south of Tyler on Saturday afternoon April 13th. We lost our four bedroom house of 39 years, car, pickup truck and three bay detached garage/barn, most all of our yard trees and a lot of pasture fencing. Most of my genealogy books and other "stuff" survived. Just some still in storage and the rest very unorganized. At the age of 76 and 84 our retirement plan did not include tearing down our house and "glamping" in manufactured housing. So I am typing this from memory and I don't remember these names as well as I once did. One of the tornadoes followed right along Highway 21 and took the relatives standing timber, trees and pasture fences in Houston County, then crossed the Neches River and hit the Caddo Mounds State Historic Site Museum, our house place, and a cousins 380 cow dairy, etc. plus other places along the road and around town. Reallly tore up the public school to the tune of a new 10 plus million bond issue. Vivian Toole Cates, Mound Prairie Ranch, 2403 State Highway 21 West, Alto, Texas 75925-5706 1-936-858-3801 -----Original Message----- From: Hatcher Families Association [mailto:ban8ball@alabama.shnw.net] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 7:26 AM To: vtoole@exede.net Subject: Hatcher Family Genealogy Update - Nov 2019 Greetings! It's been a long time since I last sent out a Hatcher update. Please accept my apologies for the delay. Since last I sent out word, I started a demanding new job and moved. I've recently been laid off, so have a bit more time at the moment. I have a few topics for this message: Yes, we're still alive General website updates Updates on the DNA project: - A Y-DNA test identified a new family with over 60 members - Some very interesting news on deep background of Henrico Hatcher DNA - We're working on expanding to autosomnal DNA and want more information - Tests are on very deep discount at FTDNA and Ancestry.com through Monday We're working on a list of projects that others could take on Organization: Bill and I and the board members of the Hatcher Families Genealogy Association are all still involved, keeping the organization going, and the website up. James still managed state and federal forms from Virginia. Bill Schultz serves as the president of the organization. Website: The website is still up and running. We have the latest major version of the TNG software on the server. That new version added the ability to log, track, and compare DNA results Our hosting company has made some tweaks that make the site easier to manage, and uptime seems very good over the past year. We now show a total of 1274 user registrations, 52,491 individuals in the "Wm the Im" tree, 9047 in the Quaker, Dorset, and Newfoundland tree, and nearly 10,000 in our other Hatcher trees. Bill and I continue to approve new user registrations, to query new registered site users for their connections, and incorporate changes. New users often have data on their families to contribute, and many times those will lead to others, at FindAGrave, in cemetery websites, FamilySearch.org, and elsewhere. As always, you can see our most recent updates on the "What's New" page: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/whatsnew.php We're considering other options for the web site, in addition to the database. One would be a blog, where we could post significant updates. Another would be a "forum" where site users could communicate and coordinate projects. We'll let you know if we decide to add such features, and how you might use them. DNA project: The DNA project at FamilyTreeDNA.com now has 214 members. One of the latest members took a Y-DNA test, and has results that match only two others in the entire FTDNA database. This identified a disconnected family as not tied to any of our existing families. We'll work to flesh out further details. We now have 24 project members who have upgraded to "Big Y" tests. Those descended from "William the Immigrant" match each other very well. The folks at FTDNA show the nearest matches not part of our project differ from our "Henrico County" men by at least 30 unique changes (Single Nucleide Polymorphisms or "SNPs "). The project with the most closely-related men is the McCarthy project, working on Irish genealogy, and in particular on descendants of the "Kings of Cashel" of the tenth century. The men in their family that most closely matches "Wm the Im" all carry a specific change (SNP) that our Henrico Hatchers do not. This means that Wm descended from ancestors of those Irish kings. They have a large number of project members, and have identified specific changes for different branches of their tree, and have an estimated date for their distinctive SNP. They project that it took place in about the year 1040 BC. So much for any paper trail connecting the Hatchers to the Kings of Cashel! At this point, FTDNA uses the SNP Y34483 to identify the branch of the complete Human race Y-tree for Hatcher men. All our Henrico men carry that distinct marker, and nobody else does. Mind, FTDNA lists over 30 such SNPs carried by all the Hatcher men and nobody else. So far, no kit from any man not in our project yet shows carrying of any of those "Hatcher-only" SNPs. We have no way of knowing if our Hatcher line represents a long series of lone survivors, only sons, and other bottlenecks, or if tens of thousands of other men carry some of the Hatcher SNPs, but just haven't tested yet. For a presentation on the migration of the men leading to our branch's arrival in the British Isles, you can check this out: http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html?snp=Y34483 The link above shows the migration from about 150,000 years ago to about 1000 or so ago to the neolithic, perhaps about the time of the split from the Irish KIngs. (They place the date of the split of our Hatchers from the Kings of Cashel at only about 950 AD.) Look at the different tabs for more information, including a way to animate a marker on the timeline. You can display the tree of Y-chromosome splits down to "the Hatcher branch" at this URL: https://www.familytreedna.com/public/y-dna-haplotree/R;name=R-Y34483 You can browse the Big Tree of Y-DNA branches. The block showing the Y34483 SNP carried by the Hatcher men, and distance to three nearest related men (Armstrong, Harrington, and Hodges) appears here: https://www.ytree.net/DisplayTree.php?blockID=6 Those three men are to the right of the Hatcher men, and the Irish folks are the next block to our left. I know that all of the above may be heavy going for folks who aren't immersed in DNA genealogy. I intend to pull together a summary presentation soon, but wanted to get this message out without waiting to finish that. Soliciting DNA information To date, our main focus in DNA testing has involved Y-DNA tests, starting all the way back in 2002, with Nel making important discoveries. We now hope to use autosomnal DNA tests to further our efforts. To that end, we would like to know: - Who has taken an autosomnal DNA test (FTDNA FamilyFinder, Ancestry.com, or 23andMe.com)? - Who has transferred their raw data to GEDmatch.com or another site? - If you have data at GEDmatch.com, will you send us your kit number? - Who has worked to look for genetic cousins, triangulated segments, analyzed clusters of matches, or otherwise gone beyond the basics with autosomnal DNA Working with autosomnal DNA looks like it will take significantly more work per kit than Y-DNA has. If you can help with the work, please let us know! Seeking volunteers / project leaders / etc. We'd like to find ways for more folks to get involved in the Hatcher project. We're looking for both projects and project leaders. Possible projects include: - Mapping early Hatchers in England. One could start with the data in our database, or with the International Genealogical Index on FamilySearch.org, and use Google My Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/d/) or another tool to plot the locations. - Working with the 1940 census records to track our existing Hatcher families - Working with English census records to identify and connect families over there. Does anyone have any project that they'd care to lead? Please email us at hfga@googlegroups.com with any comments, questions, or concerns. Thanks! William Watson Hatcher Families Genealogy Association

[Sent on behalf of William Watson, who is on the road.] Greetings! It’s been a long time since I last sent out a Hatcher update. Please accept my apologies for the delay. Since last I sent out word, I started a demanding new job and moved. I’ve recently been laid off, so have a bit more time at the moment. I have a few topics for this message: Yes, we’re still alive General website updates Updates on the DNA project: - A Y-DNA test identified a new family with over 60 members - Some very interesting news on deep background of Henrico Hatcher DNA - We’re working on expanding to autosomnal DNA and want more information - Tests are on very deep discount at FTDNA and Ancestry.com through Monday We’re working on a list of projects that others could take on Organization: Bill and I and the board members of the Hatcher Families Genealogy Association are all still involved, keeping the organization going, and the website up. James still managed state and federal forms from Virginia. Bill Schultz serves as the president of the organization. Website: The website is still up and running. We have the latest major version of the TNG software on the server. That new version added the ability to log, track, and compare DNA results Our hosting company has made some tweaks that make the site easier to manage, and uptime seems very good over the past year. We now show a total of 1274 user registrations, 52,491 individuals in the “Wm the Im” tree, 9047 in the Quaker, Dorset, and Newfoundland tree, and nearly 10,000 in our other Hatcher trees. Bill and I continue to approve new user registrations, to query new registered site users for their connections, and incorporate changes. New users often have data on their families to contribute, and many times those will lead to others, at FindAGrave, in cemetery websites, FamilySearch.org, and elsewhere. As always, you can see our most recent updates on the “What’s New” page: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/whatsnew.php We’re considering other options for the web site, in addition to the database. One would be a blog, where we could post significant updates. Another would be a “forum” where site users could communicate and coordinate projects. We’ll let you know if we decide to add such features, and how you might use them. DNA project: The DNA project at FamilyTreeDNA.com now has 214 members. One of the latest members took a Y-DNA test, and has results that match only two others in the entire FTDNA database. This identified a disconnected family as not tied to any of our existing families. We’ll work to flesh out further details. We now have 24 project members who have upgraded to “Big Y” tests. Those descended from “William the Immigrant” match each other very well. The folks at FTDNA show the nearest matches not part of our project differ from our “Henrico County” men by at least 30 unique changes (Single Nucleide Polymorphisms or “SNPs “). The project with the most closely-related men is the McCarthy project, working on Irish genealogy, and in particular on descendants of the “Kings of Cashel” of the tenth century. The men in their family that most closely matches “Wm the Im” all carry a specific change (SNP) that our Henrico Hatchers do not. This means that Wm descended from ancestors of those Irish kings. They have a large number of project members, and have identified specific changes for different branches of their tree, and have an estimated date for their distinctive SNP. They project that it took place in about the year 1040 BC. So much for any paper trail connecting the Hatchers to the Kings of Cashel! At this point, FTDNA uses the SNP Y34483 to identify the branch of the complete Human race Y-tree for Hatcher men. All our Henrico men carry that distinct marker, and nobody else does. Mind, FTDNA lists over 30 such SNPs carried by all the Hatcher men and nobody else. So far, no kit from any man not in our project yet shows carrying of any of those “Hatcher-only” SNPs. We have no way of knowing if our Hatcher line represents a long series of lone survivors, only sons, and other bottlenecks, or if tens of thousands of other men carry some of the Hatcher SNPs, but just haven’t tested yet. For a presentation on the migration of the men leading to our branch’s arrival in the British Isles, you can check this out: http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html?snp=Y34483 The link above shows the migration from about 150,000 years ago to about 1000 or so ago to the neolithic, perhaps about the time of the split from the Irish KIngs. (They place the date of the split of our Hatchers from the Kings of Cashel at only about 950 AD.) Look at the different tabs for more information, including a way to animate a marker on the timeline. You can display the tree of Y-chromosome splits down to "the Hatcher branch" at this URL: https://www.familytreedna.com/public/y-dna-haplotree/R;name=R-Y34483 You can browse the Big Tree of Y-DNA branches. The block showing the Y34483 SNP carried by the Hatcher men, and distance to three nearest related men (Armstrong, Harrington, and Hodges) appears here: https://www.ytree.net/DisplayTree.php?blockID=6 Those three men are to the right of the Hatcher men, and the Irish folks are the next block to our left. I know that all of the above may be heavy going for folks who aren’t immersed in DNA genealogy. I intend to pull together a summary presentation soon, but wanted to get this message out without waiting to finish that. Soliciting DNA information To date, our main focus in DNA testing has involved Y-DNA tests, starting all the way back in 2002, with Nel making important discoveries. We now hope to use autosomnal DNA tests to further our efforts. To that end, we would like to know: - Who has taken an autosomnal DNA test (FTDNA FamilyFinder, Ancestry.com, or 23andMe.com)? - Who has transferred their raw data to GEDmatch.com or another site? - If you have data at GEDmatch.com, will you send us your kit number? - Who has worked to look for genetic cousins, triangulated segments, analyzed clusters of matches, or otherwise gone beyond the basics with autosomnal DNA Working with autosomnal DNA looks like it will take significantly more work per kit than Y-DNA has. If you can help with the work, please let us know! Seeking volunteers / project leaders / etc. We’d like to find ways for more folks to get involved in the Hatcher project. We’re looking for both projects and project leaders. Possible projects include: - Mapping early Hatchers in England. One could start with the data in our database, or with the International Genealogical Index on FamilySearch.org, and use Google My Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/d/) or another tool to plot the locations. - Working with the 1940 census records to track our existing Hatcher families - Working with English census records to identify and connect families over there. Does anyone have any project that they’d care to lead? Please email us at hfga@googlegroups.com with any comments, questions, or concerns. Thanks! William Watson Hatcher Families Genealogy Association

I have the box of records safely in my position now. I plan to try and start going through them this week as time allows. It may take some time as it is a large box. I will report any findings that I believe would be of interest to all. William Hatcher ------ Original Message ------ Sent: 8/27/2019 7:19:54 AM Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin >Tony, William Hatcher in Milledgeville, GA has the records now. Maybe you can get with him when he has time to go through them & not duplicate anything the English researcher did. We had an interesting trip to Careby in 1999 when we went over to the Hatcher reunion that British Bob organized. If he were still alive I imagine he would agree to the DNA test. Hopefully you can find a candidate. Thanks for your efforts & do keep us informed if you find anything. >Sue Hatcher Conley > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Anthony Barreto-Neto via HATCHER <hatcher@rootsweb.com> >To: hatcher@rootsweb.com >Cc: Anthony Barreto-Neto <tbn3@me.com> >Sent: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:17:12 -0400 (EDT) >Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin > >Sue that would be great if you can or whatever... >I really want to see what the researcher came up with. >Had to reschedule my visit to Careby this week along with the one to London metropolitan archive, but going to London this coming Friday to have look see at the documents that are digitized yet.. > >Thank you Sue, >Tony > >If you don't wake up every morning >Willing to die for what you believe in >Then you don't believe in anything > > >Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 19, 2019, at 7:57 PM, Sue Conley <sconley713@embarqmail.com> wrote: >> >> Tony, someone has already spoken for them. If this doesn't work out I will certainly keep you in mind. What I have is information the English researcher came up with when the Hatcher Research Association hired her when Emory Hatcher was in charge. Thanks for you interest. >> Sue >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Anthony Barreto-Neto via HATCHER <hatcher@rootsweb.com> >> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com >> Cc: Anthony Barreto-Neto <tbn3@me.com> >> Sent: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 12:00:27 -0400 (EDT) >> Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin >> >> I would love to get my hands on copies of your records Sue... I would pay for the copies and to have them shipped to the UK or my daughter in Ocala.. >> Is there any possible way? >> >> Are these the ones done by the researchers? >> >> Thanks again >> Tony >> >> If you don't wake up every morning >> Willing to die for what you believe in >> Then you don't believe in anything >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Aug 12, 2019, at 9:41 PM, Sue Conley <sconley713@embarqmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> William, I have correspondence with Emory that goes back to 1990 plus all the Hatcher Family Research Association reports from 1990 to October 2000. I also have the three Hatcher volumes on Henry, Edward & Benjamin plus the volume on Jerry Proudfit & SC Moore. I would be happy to donate these to one of our active, current researchers. The box weighs approximately 30 lbs. & is 16 inches (length) 13 (height) & 10 1/2 width. I live in Tallahassee, FL if someone is driving through & could pick them up or I would be willing to ship if reimbursed for cost. I descend from William Greene Hatcher in central GA. My dad was Albert Sidney Hatcher of Macon, GA. >>> Sue Hatcher Conley >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: William Hatcher <thehatchers@windstream.net> >>> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 13:45:25 -0400 (EDT) >>> Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin >>> >>> Tony, You asked: "Didn’t someone else go there??" >>> >>> I remember quite a few years ago, and I am running stickily on memory, >>> Emory Hatcher and the Hatcher Family Association at that time hired and >>> paid a professional Genealogist in England to research the roots of >>> William the Immigrant in the England locations. >>> Again, best I can remember, nothing concrete was found or discovered and >>> I believe Nel at one time had the results of this research shared with >>> her back in the 90's right after I first got started in researching >>> Hatcher genealogy and met Nel on line. >>> I may have had the info on computer at one time, but after a massive >>> computer failure back in early 2000, I unfortunately lost a lot of my >>> saved records, documents, and notes. >>> I believe Robert Hatcher aka Ala. Bob also had copies of this research? >>> >>> As to how deep they went or where all they looked I do not know. Maybe >>> some of the other members might remember some of the finer details or >>> have a copy of the research... >>> William W. Hatcher >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Welcome to the Hatcher Mail list. Please contact Rena Worthen doreatr@yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/hatcher@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Welcome to the Hatcher Mail list. 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Tony, William Hatcher in Milledgeville, GA has the records now. Maybe you can get with him when he has time to go through them & not duplicate anything the English researcher did. We had an interesting trip to Careby in 1999 when we went over to the Hatcher reunion that British Bob organized. If he were still alive I imagine he would agree to the DNA test. Hopefully you can find a candidate. Thanks for your efforts & do keep us informed if you find anything. Sue Hatcher Conley ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Barreto-Neto via HATCHER <hatcher@rootsweb.com> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com Cc: Anthony Barreto-Neto <tbn3@me.com> Sent: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:17:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin Sue that would be great if you can or whatever... I really want to see what the researcher came up with. Had to reschedule my visit to Careby this week along with the one to London metropolitan archive, but going to London this coming Friday to have look see at the documents that are digitized yet.. Thank you Sue, Tony If you don't wake up every morning Willing to die for what you believe in Then you don't believe in anything Sent from my iPad > On Aug 19, 2019, at 7:57 PM, Sue Conley <sconley713@embarqmail.com> wrote: > > Tony, someone has already spoken for them. If this doesn't work out I will certainly keep you in mind. What I have is information the English researcher came up with when the Hatcher Research Association hired her when Emory Hatcher was in charge. Thanks for you interest. > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anthony Barreto-Neto via HATCHER <hatcher@rootsweb.com> > To: hatcher@rootsweb.com > Cc: Anthony Barreto-Neto <tbn3@me.com> > Sent: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 12:00:27 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin > > I would love to get my hands on copies of your records Sue... I would pay for the copies and to have them shipped to the UK or my daughter in Ocala.. > Is there any possible way? > > Are these the ones done by the researchers? > > Thanks again > Tony > > If you don't wake up every morning > Willing to die for what you believe in > Then you don't believe in anything > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 12, 2019, at 9:41 PM, Sue Conley <sconley713@embarqmail.com> wrote: >> >> William, I have correspondence with Emory that goes back to 1990 plus all the Hatcher Family Research Association reports from 1990 to October 2000. I also have the three Hatcher volumes on Henry, Edward & Benjamin plus the volume on Jerry Proudfit & SC Moore. I would be happy to donate these to one of our active, current researchers. The box weighs approximately 30 lbs. & is 16 inches (length) 13 (height) & 10 1/2 width. I live in Tallahassee, FL if someone is driving through & could pick them up or I would be willing to ship if reimbursed for cost. I descend from William Greene Hatcher in central GA. My dad was Albert Sidney Hatcher of Macon, GA. >> Sue Hatcher Conley >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: William Hatcher <thehatchers@windstream.net> >> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 13:45:25 -0400 (EDT) >> Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin >> >> Tony, You asked: "Didn’t someone else go there??" >> >> I remember quite a few years ago, and I am running stickily on memory, >> Emory Hatcher and the Hatcher Family Association at that time hired and >> paid a professional Genealogist in England to research the roots of >> William the Immigrant in the England locations. >> Again, best I can remember, nothing concrete was found or discovered and >> I believe Nel at one time had the results of this research shared with >> her back in the 90's right after I first got started in researching >> Hatcher genealogy and met Nel on line. >> I may have had the info on computer at one time, but after a massive >> computer failure back in early 2000, I unfortunately lost a lot of my >> saved records, documents, and notes. >> I believe Robert Hatcher aka Ala. Bob also had copies of this research? >> >> As to how deep they went or where all they looked I do not know. Maybe >> some of the other members might remember some of the finer details or >> have a copy of the research... >> William W. Hatcher >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> https://www.avg.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Welcome to the Hatcher Mail list. Please contact Rena Worthen doreatr@yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/hatcher@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Welcome to the Hatcher Mail list. 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Sue that would be great if you can or whatever... I really want to see what the researcher came up with. Had to reschedule my visit to Careby this week along with the one to London metropolitan archive, but going to London this coming Friday to have look see at the documents that are digitized yet.. Thank you Sue, Tony If you don't wake up every morning Willing to die for what you believe in Then you don't believe in anything Sent from my iPad > On Aug 19, 2019, at 7:57 PM, Sue Conley <sconley713@embarqmail.com> wrote: > > Tony, someone has already spoken for them. If this doesn't work out I will certainly keep you in mind. What I have is information the English researcher came up with when the Hatcher Research Association hired her when Emory Hatcher was in charge. Thanks for you interest. > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anthony Barreto-Neto via HATCHER <hatcher@rootsweb.com> > To: hatcher@rootsweb.com > Cc: Anthony Barreto-Neto <tbn3@me.com> > Sent: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 12:00:27 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin > > I would love to get my hands on copies of your records Sue... I would pay for the copies and to have them shipped to the UK or my daughter in Ocala.. > Is there any possible way? > > Are these the ones done by the researchers? > > Thanks again > Tony > > If you don't wake up every morning > Willing to die for what you believe in > Then you don't believe in anything > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 12, 2019, at 9:41 PM, Sue Conley <sconley713@embarqmail.com> wrote: >> >> William, I have correspondence with Emory that goes back to 1990 plus all the Hatcher Family Research Association reports from 1990 to October 2000. I also have the three Hatcher volumes on Henry, Edward & Benjamin plus the volume on Jerry Proudfit & SC Moore. I would be happy to donate these to one of our active, current researchers. The box weighs approximately 30 lbs. & is 16 inches (length) 13 (height) & 10 1/2 width. I live in Tallahassee, FL if someone is driving through & could pick them up or I would be willing to ship if reimbursed for cost. I descend from William Greene Hatcher in central GA. My dad was Albert Sidney Hatcher of Macon, GA. >> Sue Hatcher Conley >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: William Hatcher <thehatchers@windstream.net> >> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 13:45:25 -0400 (EDT) >> Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin >> >> Tony, You asked: "Didn’t someone else go there??" >> >> I remember quite a few years ago, and I am running stickily on memory, >> Emory Hatcher and the Hatcher Family Association at that time hired and >> paid a professional Genealogist in England to research the roots of >> William the Immigrant in the England locations. >> Again, best I can remember, nothing concrete was found or discovered and >> I believe Nel at one time had the results of this research shared with >> her back in the 90's right after I first got started in researching >> Hatcher genealogy and met Nel on line. >> I may have had the info on computer at one time, but after a massive >> computer failure back in early 2000, I unfortunately lost a lot of my >> saved records, documents, and notes. >> I believe Robert Hatcher aka Ala. Bob also had copies of this research? >> >> As to how deep they went or where all they looked I do not know. Maybe >> some of the other members might remember some of the finer details or >> have a copy of the research... >> William W. Hatcher >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> https://www.avg.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Welcome to the Hatcher Mail list. Please contact Rena Worthen doreatr@yahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/hatcher@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Welcome to the Hatcher Mail list. 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Tony, someone has already spoken for them. If this doesn't work out I will certainly keep you in mind. What I have is information the English researcher came up with when the Hatcher Research Association hired her when Emory Hatcher was in charge. Thanks for you interest. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Barreto-Neto via HATCHER <hatcher@rootsweb.com> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com Cc: Anthony Barreto-Neto <tbn3@me.com> Sent: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 12:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin I would love to get my hands on copies of your records Sue... I would pay for the copies and to have them shipped to the UK or my daughter in Ocala.. Is there any possible way? Are these the ones done by the researchers? Thanks again Tony If you don't wake up every morning Willing to die for what you believe in Then you don't believe in anything Sent from my iPad > On Aug 12, 2019, at 9:41 PM, Sue Conley <sconley713@embarqmail.com> wrote: > > William, I have correspondence with Emory that goes back to 1990 plus all the Hatcher Family Research Association reports from 1990 to October 2000. I also have the three Hatcher volumes on Henry, Edward & Benjamin plus the volume on Jerry Proudfit & SC Moore. I would be happy to donate these to one of our active, current researchers. The box weighs approximately 30 lbs. & is 16 inches (length) 13 (height) & 10 1/2 width. I live in Tallahassee, FL if someone is driving through & could pick them up or I would be willing to ship if reimbursed for cost. I descend from William Greene Hatcher in central GA. My dad was Albert Sidney Hatcher of Macon, GA. > Sue Hatcher Conley > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: William Hatcher <thehatchers@windstream.net> > To: hatcher@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 13:45:25 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin > > Tony, You asked: "Didn’t someone else go there??" > > I remember quite a few years ago, and I am running stickily on memory, > Emory Hatcher and the Hatcher Family Association at that time hired and > paid a professional Genealogist in England to research the roots of > William the Immigrant in the England locations. > Again, best I can remember, nothing concrete was found or discovered and > I believe Nel at one time had the results of this research shared with > her back in the 90's right after I first got started in researching > Hatcher genealogy and met Nel on line. > I may have had the info on computer at one time, but after a massive > computer failure back in early 2000, I unfortunately lost a lot of my > saved records, documents, and notes. > I believe Robert Hatcher aka Ala. Bob also had copies of this research? > > As to how deep they went or where all they looked I do not know. Maybe > some of the other members might remember some of the finer details or > have a copy of the research... > William W. Hatcher > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > _______________________________________________ > Welcome to the Hatcher Mail list. Please contact Rena Worthen doreatr@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/hatcher@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Welcome to the Hatcher Mail list. Please contact Rena Worthen doreatr@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/hatcher@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Welcome to the Hatcher Mail list. Please contact Rena Worthen doreatr@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/hatcher@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hey y’all I’ve got both the Y test and would be happy to have an autosomal test. My problem is getting them uploaded. As far as permission to upload “for me” to whichever ones you want, you have it. I can also put it in writing signed with online app. Let me know. I’m only in the Hatcher family tree site now. Thanks Tony If you don't wake up every morning Willing to die for what you believe in Then you don't believe in anything Sent from my iPad > On Aug 13, 2019, at 9:52 PM, Steve Williams <stevewilliamsfamily@gmail.com> wrote: > > The potential role that I see for HFA is as a forum to allow > individuals who have submitted DNA samples (whether "DNA geek" or > novice) to find each other. The amount of work involved in evaluating > autosomal DNA matches (and lack thereof) is far beyond what I imagine > the HFA could take on. Privacy and security have to be top > priorities. There could be a password-protected web page accessible > only by those who have submitted contact information, a mention of > paper-trail HATCHER ancestry, and names of web sites where DNA results > are available. Further information could be exchanged by e-mail, with > no further burden on HFA. > > > > > >> On 8/13/19, Bill Schultz <elbonian@live.com> wrote: >> Steve: >> >> We would be happy to track GEDmatch account numbers for anybody who is in >> any of our trees at http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/index.php >> >> HOWEVER, we only track non-Hatcher surnames up and down one generation from >> the Hatcher spouse. Thus, while I'm on GEDmatch, I'm not in the Hatcher >> family tree (t being my 2nd-great grandmother who was born a Hatcher). >> >> Our Hatcher DNA project is over at Family Tree DNA, and we have a lot of >> folks there, but we can't take their data and upload it to GEDmatch without >> permission. And, I really don't care to start another "DNA project" at >> GEDmatch. I see it as a less-secure repository than any of the others. But >> I'll admit they currently have better tools. But they don't advertise, so it >> is kind-of a DNA geek site. I would expect that Family Tree DNA and/or >> Ancestry (where I've also tested) would eventually catch up on the tool >> front. Ancestry just recently released its "ThruLines" feature that matches >> DNA and family trees to create an otherwise impossible map of your >> relatives. I personally feel that is a LOT more useful than the great tools >> at GEDmatch. >> >> William Watson and I are still in the early stages of considering what we >> will do with an autosomal DNA project. We've been allowing people to join >> our Hatcher project, and we've looked at their DNA, but we don't really have >> a good idea of what to do about it. Stay tuned. Maybe next year...... >> >> == Bill > > _______________________________________________ > Welcome to the Hatcher Mail list. Please contact Rena Worthen doreatr@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/hatcher@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I would love to get my hands on copies of your records Sue... I would pay for the copies and to have them shipped to the UK or my daughter in Ocala.. Is there any possible way? Are these the ones done by the researchers? Thanks again Tony If you don't wake up every morning Willing to die for what you believe in Then you don't believe in anything Sent from my iPad > On Aug 12, 2019, at 9:41 PM, Sue Conley <sconley713@embarqmail.com> wrote: > > William, I have correspondence with Emory that goes back to 1990 plus all the Hatcher Family Research Association reports from 1990 to October 2000. I also have the three Hatcher volumes on Henry, Edward & Benjamin plus the volume on Jerry Proudfit & SC Moore. I would be happy to donate these to one of our active, current researchers. The box weighs approximately 30 lbs. & is 16 inches (length) 13 (height) & 10 1/2 width. I live in Tallahassee, FL if someone is driving through & could pick them up or I would be willing to ship if reimbursed for cost. I descend from William Greene Hatcher in central GA. My dad was Albert Sidney Hatcher of Macon, GA. > Sue Hatcher Conley > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: William Hatcher <thehatchers@windstream.net> > To: hatcher@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 13:45:25 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin > > Tony, You asked: "Didn’t someone else go there??" > > I remember quite a few years ago, and I am running stickily on memory, > Emory Hatcher and the Hatcher Family Association at that time hired and > paid a professional Genealogist in England to research the roots of > William the Immigrant in the England locations. > Again, best I can remember, nothing concrete was found or discovered and > I believe Nel at one time had the results of this research shared with > her back in the 90's right after I first got started in researching > Hatcher genealogy and met Nel on line. > I may have had the info on computer at one time, but after a massive > computer failure back in early 2000, I unfortunately lost a lot of my > saved records, documents, and notes. > I believe Robert Hatcher aka Ala. Bob also had copies of this research? > > As to how deep they went or where all they looked I do not know. Maybe > some of the other members might remember some of the finer details or > have a copy of the research... > William W. Hatcher > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > _______________________________________________ > Welcome to the Hatcher Mail list. Please contact Rena Worthen doreatr@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/hatcher@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Welcome to the Hatcher Mail list. Please contact Rena Worthen doreatr@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/hatcher@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Who knows Cynthia but it’s worth a try. Especially if I can entice them with some of his exploits in VA... whatever it takes hey. Tony If you don't wake up every morning Willing to die for what you believe in Then you don't believe in anything Sent from my iPad > On Aug 13, 2019, at 5:39 PM, Cynthia L. Fuerst <cynthialfuerst@msn.com> wrote: > > Good Luck Antonio `~~~ hope "Who do you think you are" will give you more than a minute or two!!!!! > Cindy > > ________________________________ > From: Anthony Barreto-Neto via HATCHER <hatcher@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 2:42 PM > To: hatcher@rootsweb.com <hatcher@rootsweb.com> > Cc: William Hatcher <thehatchers@windstream.net>; Anthony Barreto-Neto <tbn3@me.com> > Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin > > One more thing, in October here roots web is having one of their hugh conferences in London which I plan on going to...I mean what else is this American Florida boy gonna do in Faversham Kent?? One of the speakers is two people off Who Do You Think You Are TV show that seem to find everyone and their cousins. I certainly hope they give me some insight as well... > > Tony > > If you don't wake up every morning > Willing to die for what you believe in > Then you don't believe in anything > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 12, 2019, at 10:17 PM, Anthony Barreto-Neto via HATCHER <hatcher@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks all of you. Yeah if I find a Hatchet living around there I'll grab them & force them (uh not), to get tested. >> I'm also thinking of going to St George in Ogbourme (?) to see if I can find a marriage license in Wiltshire for Wm. & Marian Newporte & if finding one will of course try to copy & forward & see where it leads me. >> >> Also of interest one of the Hatchers married a Skinner and she (I suppose one of our (?) gggggg'grandmothers go all the way back to the 10th century. I wonder if from err her much later records of we could find anything that ties Wm to Marion? >> >> Seems hard to believe 2 WM. Could arrive in the same area of colonies both become members of Burgess and both have same children we descend from. Even barring a piece of paper (or 2 birds in a bush), how da hell many of them could there have been? >> Oh & they came over about the same time but one lost a wife & kids on the way or not!? >> >> I did talk to the people who went to Careby and have photos but they are from an earlier Sir Thomas child nephew Indian chief in Careby cuz he died in 1711. So??? If Those records are there and they would not be on microfiche but originals which I'm told I might have to have a History Card to view (& I do), will be interesting indeed. >> >> If you don't wake up every morning >> Willing to die for what you believe in >> Then you don't believe in anything >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Aug 12, 2019, at 9:41 PM, Sue Conley <sconley713@embarqmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> William, I have correspondence with Emory that goes back to 1990 plus all the Hatcher Family Research Association reports from 1990 to October 2000. I also have the three Hatcher volumes on Henry, Edward & Benjamin plus the volume on Jerry Proudfit & SC Moore. I would be happy to donate these to one of our active, current researchers. The box weighs approximately 30 lbs. & is 16 inches (length) 13 (height) & 10 1/2 width. I live in Tallahassee, FL if someone is driving through & could pick them up or I would be willing to ship if reimbursed for cost. I descend from William Greene Hatcher in central GA. My dad was Albert Sidney Hatcher of Macon, GA. >>> Sue Hatcher Conley >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: William Hatcher <thehatchers@windstream.net> >>> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 13:45:25 -0400 (EDT) >>> Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin >>> >>> Tony, You asked: "Didn’t someone else go there??" >>> >>> I remember quite a few years ago, and I am running stickily on memory, >>> Emory Hatcher and the Hatcher Family Association at that time hired and >>> paid a professional Genealogist in England to research the roots of >>> William the Immigrant in the England locations. >>> Again, best I can remember, nothing concrete was found or discovered and >>> I believe Nel at one time had the results of this research shared with >>> her back in the 90's right after I first got started in researching >>> Hatcher genealogy and met Nel on line. >>> I may have had the info on computer at one time, but after a massive >>> computer failure back in early 2000, I unfortunately lost a lot of my >>> saved records, documents, and notes. >>> I believe Robert Hatcher aka Ala. 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If I could figure out how to upload my Y-DNA data from my iPad to gedmatch or 23 & me I would but looks like you need pc or laptop? Is that right Steve? Tony If you don't wake up every morning Willing to die for what you believe in Then you don't believe in anything Sent from my iPad > On Aug 13, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Steve Williams <stevewilliamsfamily@gmail.com> wrote: > > Y-DNA is obviously useful in a surname project. Autosomal DNA (the > test available through most testing companies) is also useful. If > Hatcher descendants will upload their "raw data" to GEDmatch, and if > this group will maintain a list of Hatcher descendants who have > uploaded, and if family trees are available, much can be done. > > >> On 8/12/19, Bill Schultz <elbonian@live.com> wrote: >> Folks: >> >> For whatever it's worth, I'm also involved with the Clay Family DNA project >> (my direct ancestor was James Hatcher who married Sarah Clay) and what they >> are doing is this: >> >> They actively recruited donations for DNA testing, getting several thousand >> dollars in donations. Then, they've been buying Y-DNA 37 kits in bulk from >> FTDNA. They have a man in England who places ads in genealogy society >> magazines and so forth to locate Clay men who would like to have a free DNA >> test in return for supplying a decent family tree. >> >> This process actually resulted in some success for me, personally. The >> aforementioned Sarah Clay is the granddaughter of Percival Clay who was a >> convict transportee from Yorkshire. I recruited a direct male descendant of >> her brother to take a DNA test and the predicted haplotype (E-M25) is fairly >> rare for England, although it did match a descendant of Sarah's uncle, so >> I'm now fairly certain what I'm looking for in England. Unfortunately, the >> best match so far is a gentleman from Warwickshire who has a family tree >> back to the 1500s that doesn't show any relationship with Yorkshire. Also, >> we have a third disconnected E-M35 family that shows up in New York state >> sometime in the early 1800s and migrates to Washington County, PA. So, I now >> have three tree leaves and no known connection. The hunt goes on. (There >> are record of a Percival Clay in Yorkshire about a century before MY >> Percival; we just need to find a descendant from THAT family who will take a >> DNA test....) >> >> Anyway, that's how the Clay family is approaching the problem. If somebody >> would assemble a decent-sized fund, and if Tony would be "our man in >> England," then we might be able to do something similar..... >> >> == Bill > > _______________________________________________ > Welcome to the Hatcher Mail list. Please contact Rena Worthen doreatr@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/hatcher@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I neglected to mention: Upgrades are also on sale: Y 25 new kit $109 (no discount) Y37 new kit $129 (saves $40) Y67 new kit $199 (saves $69) Y111 new kit $299 (saves $60) BigY700 new kit $499 (saves $150) Y12 to Y37 $99 (saves $10) Y12 to Y67 $169 (saves $30) Y12 to Y111 $279 (saves $80) Y25 to Y37 $49 (saves $10) Y25 to Y67 $139 (saves $20) Y25 to Y111 $239 (saves $30) Y37 to Y67 $89 (saves $20) Y37 to Y111 $178 (saves $50) Y67 to Y111 $89 (saves $10) On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 3:50 PM William J. Watson <wjw@alumni.rice.edu> wrote: > Folks, > > I'm delighted to see all the activity on this list of late. One point I > want to make sure nobody misses: DNA tests are on sale at both FTDNA and > Ancestry.com. > > For general information on our DNA project and tests, you can check out > this page: > http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/DNAjoin.htm > > Here's the information on Y-DNA tests, taken in association with our > project: > https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?code=T80694&Group=Hatcher > > > > The Y-DNA tests taken by Hatcher males do the best to confirm or disprove > connections to the existing Hatcher families. The Y-37 test can provide > that with its results. The price through the end of August is $129 instead > of the list price of $169. Within our project, it's possible to order the > Y-12 and Y-25 tests, but the former provides so little data that it's > nearly useless, and at $109, the latter costs almost as much as the Y-37, > so probably isn't worth the saving. > > The big Y test is on sale at $499, still a rather hefty price, but down > from list price of $649. > > We have about 40 test participants in our Henrico County family who > connect through Edward, the eldest son of William "the Immigrant." We have > only nine who connect throughWm's son Henry, Sr, and only five who connect > through William's son Benjamin, Sr. > > > In our other Hatcher families, we have up to a double-handful or so > project members. One long-standing success is the connection of the Quaker > Hatchers of New England to the Dorset Hatchers of Minnesota and the > Newfoundland Hatchers. > > We've been communicating with administrators of other projects as well. > The Milam project leads have convinced themselves that our Nancy Hatcher > married a specific James Milam, but that some sort of falling-out caused > them to separate, and her to give thier children her maiden name. > > We anticipate some conclusions from working with the Burton admins. It > appears that Our various Burton DNA matches *may* all have good genetic > connections to the Henrico CountyHatchers. This would imply that the person > we list as Susannah Hatcher was likely not a daughter of Wm the Im, but > instead a daughter-in-law, and that either William's son William Jr. was > her husband and the father of her children, before he passed away young, > with Thomas Burton merely their step-father, or Thomas was actually > William's son, or perhaps they shared an ancestor in England. > > Alas, test upgrades don't seem to be on sale at the moment. > > > Autosomnal tests cost $59 through the end of the month, through Ancestry > or through FamilyTreeDNA.com. Only the latter allows our DNA project admins > to review your results and assist with identifying connections. You can, > however, download data from either and upload to GEDmatch.com or > MyHeritage.com and look through their databases for results. You can even > download from Ancrestry and upload to FTDNA. > > > If you have taken any DNA test anywhere, or have uploaded data to > GEDmatch.com, I would be happy to add information about your test(s) to the > Hatcher site. We have the ability to log tests in our database, and connect > them to people in our genealogical database. As Bill mentioned, our > database does not always follow lines to the present, as we track only one > generation up or down from the Hatcher name. > > To maintain a modicum of privacy, I do *NOT* make public the specific > individual who took the test, unless they have passed away. Instead, I link > to a great-grandfather or similarly distant relative. > > Do please ask if you have any questions! > > Very best regards, > > William Watson > Portland, Oregon > co-admin https://HatcherFamilyAssn.com/ > co-admin, Hatcher DNA genealogy project > >

Folks, I'm delighted to see all the activity on this list of late. One point I want to make sure nobody misses: DNA tests are on sale at both FTDNA and Ancestry.com. For general information on our DNA project and tests, you can check out this page: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/DNAjoin.htm Here's the information on Y-DNA tests, taken in association with our project: https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?code=T80694&Group=Hatcher The Y-DNA tests taken by Hatcher males do the best to confirm or disprove connections to the existing Hatcher families. The Y-37 test can provide that with its results. The price through the end of August is $129 instead of the list price of $169. Within our project, it's possible to order the Y-12 and Y-25 tests, but the former provides so little data that it's nearly useless, and at $109, the latter costs almost as much as the Y-37, so probably isn't worth the saving. The big Y test is on sale at $499, still a rather hefty price, but down from list price of $649. We have about 40 test participants in our Henrico County family who connect through Edward, the eldest son of William "the Immigrant." We have only nine who connect throughWm's son Henry, Sr, and only five who connect through William's son Benjamin, Sr. In our other Hatcher families, we have up to a double-handful or so project members. One long-standing success is the connection of the Quaker Hatchers of New England to the Dorset Hatchers of Minnesota and the Newfoundland Hatchers. We've been communicating with administrators of other projects as well. The Milam project leads have convinced themselves that our Nancy Hatcher married a specific James Milam, but that some sort of falling-out caused them to separate, and her to give thier children her maiden name. We anticipate some conclusions from working with the Burton admins. It appears that Our various Burton DNA matches *may* all have good genetic connections to the Henrico CountyHatchers. This would imply that the person we list as Susannah Hatcher was likely not a daughter of Wm the Im, but instead a daughter-in-law, and that either William's son William Jr. was her husband and the father of her children, before he passed away young, with Thomas Burton merely their step-father, or Thomas was actually William's son, or perhaps they shared an ancestor in England. Alas, test upgrades don't seem to be on sale at the moment. Autosomnal tests cost $59 through the end of the month, through Ancestry or through FamilyTreeDNA.com. Only the latter allows our DNA project admins to review your results and assist with identifying connections. You can, however, download data from either and upload to GEDmatch.com or MyHeritage.com and look through their databases for results. You can even download from Ancrestry and upload to FTDNA. If you have taken any DNA test anywhere, or have uploaded data to GEDmatch.com, I would be happy to add information about your test(s) to the Hatcher site. We have the ability to log tests in our database, and connect them to people in our genealogical database. As Bill mentioned, our database does not always follow lines to the present, as we track only one generation up or down from the Hatcher name. To maintain a modicum of privacy, I do *NOT* make public the specific individual who took the test, unless they have passed away. Instead, I link to a great-grandfather or similarly distant relative. Do please ask if you have any questions! Very best regards, William Watson Portland, Oregon co-admin https://HatcherFamilyAssn.com/ co-admin, Hatcher DNA genealogy project

Hi Barbara Jones Benton.I also descend from Nancy Hatcher. Fleming Hatcher. I would really like the opportunity to talk to you about the family line we have in common Thanks Bernard "Ben"Hatcher Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 9:25 AM, buzzybee56--- via HATCHER<hatcher@rootsweb.com> wrote: It is so nice to see activity on Nel's amazing site. I helped her with interpreting old english wills, etc and would be glad to help with that type of thing. Not an expert with the computer, and age has slowed me down a bit but will try to help in some way.I come from the William the Immigrant line through Nancy Hatcher (Milam) line.Buzzy(Barbara Jones Benton) _______________________________________________ Welcome to the Hatcher Mail list. Please contact Rena Worthen doreatr@yahoo.com  _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/hatcher@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Kevin, Nice to hear from you & your Macon connection. I have a "taker" for my records but if it falls through I will certainly keep you in mind. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Murphy <kwmurphy@bellsouth.net> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com Cc: conley713@embargmail.com Sent: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 18:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin Hello Sue, I was scanning through your email and the name EMORY caught my attention. My wife is the daughter of Lee Anderson (who Married Johnny White in Macon Georgia). My wife's grandmother (Lee's mother) is Rosamond Hatcher (who married Chalmers Anderson also in Macon). My wife's great grandfather is Marvin Mc Iver Hatcher of Alabama (I forget the city, but I believe it's Geneva). Rosamond was the Daughter of Marvin, who I believe had 8 or 9 children. We know Emory out of Denver and he sent us his book on the 9 generations of Hatcher about 5 years ago and also have numerous documents from the Hatcher Family Research association that I received from her grandmother that Emory put together. I'm sure she would be happy to pay for the shipping of those documents that you have. I've done most of the family research for my wife on the Non-Hatcher side. My wife grew up in Macon, and then Atlanta and we now live in Nashville where the Hatcher Family Dairy resides under the direction of Charlie Hatcher. K. W. Murphy -----Original Message----- From: Cynthia L. Fuerst [mailto:cynthialfuerst@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 11:40 AM To: hatcher@rootsweb.com Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin Good Luck Antonio `~~~ hope "Who do you think you are" will give you more than a minute or two!!!!! Cindy ________________________________ From: Anthony Barreto-Neto via HATCHER <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 2:42 PM To: hatcher@rootsweb.com <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Cc: William Hatcher <thehatchers@windstream.net>; Anthony Barreto-Neto <tbn3@me.com> Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin One more thing, in October here roots web is having one of their hugh conferences in London which I plan on going to...I mean what else is this American Florida boy gonna do in Faversham Kent?? One of the speakers is two people off Who Do You Think You Are TV show that seem to find everyone and their cousins. I certainly hope they give me some insight as well... Tony If you don't wake up every morning Willing to die for what you believe in Then you don't believe in anything Sent from my iPad > On Aug 12, 2019, at 10:17 PM, Anthony Barreto-Neto via HATCHER <hatcher@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Thanks all of you. Yeah if I find a Hatchet living around there I'll grab them & force them (uh not), to get tested. > I'm also thinking of going to St George in Ogbourme (?) to see if I can find a marriage license in Wiltshire for Wm. & Marian Newporte & if finding one will of course try to copy & forward & see where it leads me. > > Also of interest one of the Hatchers married a Skinner and she (I suppose one of our (?) gggggg'grandmothers go all the way back to the 10th century I wonder if from err her much later records of we could find anything that ties Wm to Marion? > > Seems hard to believe 2 WM. Could arrive in the same area of colonies both become members of Burgess and both have same children we descend from. Even barring a piece of paper (or 2 birds in a bush), how da hell many of them could there have been? > Oh & they came over about the same time but one lost a wife & kids on the way or not!? > > I did talk to the people who went to Careby and have photos but they are from an earlier Sir Thomas child nephew Indian chief in Careby cuz he died in 1711. So??? If Those records are there and they would not be on microfiche but originals which I'm told I might have to have a History Card to view (& I do), will be interesting indeed. > > If you don't wake up every morning > Willing to die for what you believe in > Then you don't believe in anything > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 12, 2019, at 9:41 PM, Sue Conley <sconley713@embarqmail.com> wrote: >> >> William, I have correspondence with Emory that goes back to 1990 plus all the Hatcher Family Research Association reports from 1990 to October 2000 I also have the three Hatcher volumes on Henry, Edward & Benjamin plus the volume on Jerry Proudfit & SC Moore. I would be happy to donate these to one of our active, current researchers. The box weighs approximately 30 lbs & is 16 inches (length) 13 (height) & 10 1/2 width. I live in Tallahassee, FL if someone is driving through & could pick them up or I would be willing to ship if reimbursed for cost. I descend from William Greene Hatcher in central GA. My dad was Albert Sidney Hatcher of Macon, GA. >> Sue Hatcher Conley >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: William Hatcher <thehatchers@windstream.net> >> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 13:45:25 -0400 (EDT) >> Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin >> >> Tony, You asked: "Didn't someone else go there??" >> >> I remember quite a few years ago, and I am running stickily on memory, >> Emory Hatcher and the Hatcher Family Association at that time hired and >> paid a professional Genealogist in England to research the roots of >> William the Immigrant in the England locations. >> Again, best I can remember, nothing concrete was found or discovered and >> I believe Nel at one time had the results of this research shared with >> her back in the 90's right after I first got started in researching >> Hatcher genealogy and met Nel on line. >> I may have had the info on computer at one time, but after a massive >> computer failure back in early 2000, I unfortunately lost a lot of my >> saved records, documents, and notes. >> I believe Robert Hatcher aka Ala. 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Hello Sue, I was scanning through your email and the name EMORY caught my attention. My wife is the daughter of Lee Anderson (who Married Johnny White in Macon Georgia). My wife's grandmother (Lee's mother) is Rosamond Hatcher (who married Chalmers Anderson also in Macon). My wife's great grandfather is Marvin Mc Iver Hatcher of Alabama (I forget the city, but I believe it's Geneva). Rosamond was the Daughter of Marvin, who I believe had 8 or 9 children. We know Emory out of Denver and he sent us his book on the 9 generations of Hatcher about 5 years ago and also have numerous documents from the Hatcher Family Research association that I received from her grandmother that Emory put together. I'm sure she would be happy to pay for the shipping of those documents that you have. I've done most of the family research for my wife on the Non-Hatcher side. My wife grew up in Macon, and then Atlanta and we now live in Nashville where the Hatcher Family Dairy resides under the direction of Charlie Hatcher. K. W. Murphy -----Original Message----- From: Cynthia L. Fuerst [mailto:cynthialfuerst@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 11:40 AM To: hatcher@rootsweb.com Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin Good Luck Antonio `~~~ hope "Who do you think you are" will give you more than a minute or two!!!!! Cindy ________________________________ From: Anthony Barreto-Neto via HATCHER <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 2:42 PM To: hatcher@rootsweb.com <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Cc: William Hatcher <thehatchers@windstream.net>; Anthony Barreto-Neto <tbn3@me.com> Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin One more thing, in October here roots web is having one of their hugh conferences in London which I plan on going to...I mean what else is this American Florida boy gonna do in Faversham Kent?? One of the speakers is two people off Who Do You Think You Are TV show that seem to find everyone and their cousins. I certainly hope they give me some insight as well... Tony If you don't wake up every morning Willing to die for what you believe in Then you don't believe in anything Sent from my iPad > On Aug 12, 2019, at 10:17 PM, Anthony Barreto-Neto via HATCHER <hatcher@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Thanks all of you. Yeah if I find a Hatchet living around there I'll grab them & force them (uh not), to get tested. > I'm also thinking of going to St George in Ogbourme (?) to see if I can find a marriage license in Wiltshire for Wm. & Marian Newporte & if finding one will of course try to copy & forward & see where it leads me. > > Also of interest one of the Hatchers married a Skinner and she (I suppose one of our (?) gggggg'grandmothers go all the way back to the 10th century I wonder if from err her much later records of we could find anything that ties Wm to Marion? > > Seems hard to believe 2 WM. Could arrive in the same area of colonies both become members of Burgess and both have same children we descend from. Even barring a piece of paper (or 2 birds in a bush), how da hell many of them could there have been? > Oh & they came over about the same time but one lost a wife & kids on the way or not!? > > I did talk to the people who went to Careby and have photos but they are from an earlier Sir Thomas child nephew Indian chief in Careby cuz he died in 1711. So??? If Those records are there and they would not be on microfiche but originals which I'm told I might have to have a History Card to view (& I do), will be interesting indeed. > > If you don't wake up every morning > Willing to die for what you believe in > Then you don't believe in anything > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 12, 2019, at 9:41 PM, Sue Conley <sconley713@embarqmail.com> wrote: >> >> William, I have correspondence with Emory that goes back to 1990 plus all the Hatcher Family Research Association reports from 1990 to October 2000 I also have the three Hatcher volumes on Henry, Edward & Benjamin plus the volume on Jerry Proudfit & SC Moore. I would be happy to donate these to one of our active, current researchers. The box weighs approximately 30 lbs & is 16 inches (length) 13 (height) & 10 1/2 width. I live in Tallahassee, FL if someone is driving through & could pick them up or I would be willing to ship if reimbursed for cost. I descend from William Greene Hatcher in central GA. My dad was Albert Sidney Hatcher of Macon, GA. >> Sue Hatcher Conley >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: William Hatcher <thehatchers@windstream.net> >> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 13:45:25 -0400 (EDT) >> Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin >> >> Tony, You asked: "Didn't someone else go there??" >> >> I remember quite a few years ago, and I am running stickily on memory, >> Emory Hatcher and the Hatcher Family Association at that time hired and >> paid a professional Genealogist in England to research the roots of >> William the Immigrant in the England locations. >> Again, best I can remember, nothing concrete was found or discovered and >> I believe Nel at one time had the results of this research shared with >> her back in the 90's right after I first got started in researching >> Hatcher genealogy and met Nel on line. >> I may have had the info on computer at one time, but after a massive >> computer failure back in early 2000, I unfortunately lost a lot of my >> saved records, documents, and notes. >> I believe Robert Hatcher aka Ala. 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The potential role that I see for HFA is as a forum to allow individuals who have submitted DNA samples (whether "DNA geek" or novice) to find each other. The amount of work involved in evaluating autosomal DNA matches (and lack thereof) is far beyond what I imagine the HFA could take on. Privacy and security have to be top priorities. There could be a password-protected web page accessible only by those who have submitted contact information, a mention of paper-trail HATCHER ancestry, and names of web sites where DNA results are available. Further information could be exchanged by e-mail, with no further burden on HFA. On 8/13/19, Bill Schultz <elbonian@live.com> wrote: > Steve: > > We would be happy to track GEDmatch account numbers for anybody who is in > any of our trees at http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/index.php > > HOWEVER, we only track non-Hatcher surnames up and down one generation from > the Hatcher spouse. Thus, while I'm on GEDmatch, I'm not in the Hatcher > family tree (t being my 2nd-great grandmother who was born a Hatcher). > > Our Hatcher DNA project is over at Family Tree DNA, and we have a lot of > folks there, but we can't take their data and upload it to GEDmatch without > permission. And, I really don't care to start another "DNA project" at > GEDmatch. I see it as a less-secure repository than any of the others. But > I'll admit they currently have better tools. But they don't advertise, so it > is kind-of a DNA geek site. I would expect that Family Tree DNA and/or > Ancestry (where I've also tested) would eventually catch up on the tool > front. Ancestry just recently released its "ThruLines" feature that matches > DNA and family trees to create an otherwise impossible map of your > relatives. I personally feel that is a LOT more useful than the great tools > at GEDmatch. > > William Watson and I are still in the early stages of considering what we > will do with an autosomal DNA project. We've been allowing people to join > our Hatcher project, and we've looked at their DNA, but we don't really have > a good idea of what to do about it. Stay tuned. Maybe next year...... > > == Bill

Steve: We would be happy to track GEDmatch account numbers for anybody who is in any of our trees at http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/index.php HOWEVER, we only track non-Hatcher surnames up and down one generation from the Hatcher spouse. Thus, while I'm on GEDmatch, I'm not in the Hatcher family tree (t being my 2nd-great grandmother who was born a Hatcher). Our Hatcher DNA project is over at Family Tree DNA, and we have a lot of folks there, but we can't take their data and upload it to GEDmatch without permission. And, I really don't care to start another "DNA project" at GEDmatch. I see it as a less-secure repository than any of the others. But I'll admit they currently have better tools. But they don't advertise, so it is kind-of a DNA geek site. I would expect that Family Tree DNA and/or Ancestry (where I've also tested) would eventually catch up on the tool front. Ancestry just recently released its "ThruLines" feature that matches DNA and family trees to create an otherwise impossible map of your relatives. I personally feel that is a LOT more useful than the great tools at GEDmatch. William Watson and I are still in the early stages of considering what we will do with an autosomal DNA project. We've been allowing people to join our Hatcher project, and we've looked at their DNA, but we don't really have a good idea of what to do about it. Stay tuned. Maybe next year...... == Bill ________________________________ From: hfga@googlegroups.com <hfga@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Steve Williams <stevewilliamsfamily@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 11:37 AM To: hatcher@rootsweb.com <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Cc: William J. Watson <wjw@alumni.rice.edu>; Donald L Hatcher <ncis2003@bellsouth.net>; Hatcher Families Genealogy Association <hfga@googlegroups.com> Subject: [hfga] Re: Early English Hatchers Y-DNA is obviously useful in a surname project. Autosomal DNA (the test available through most testing companies) is also useful. If Hatcher descendants will upload their "raw data" to GEDmatch, and if this group will maintain a list of Hatcher descendants who have uploaded, and if family trees are available, much can be done. On 8/12/19, Bill Schultz <elbonian@live.com> wrote: > Folks: > > For whatever it's worth, I'm also involved with the Clay Family DNA project > (my direct ancestor was James Hatcher who married Sarah Clay) ... [SNIP]

Good Luck Antonio `~~~ hope "Who do you think you are" will give you more than a minute or two!!!!! Cindy ________________________________ From: Anthony Barreto-Neto via HATCHER <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 2:42 PM To: hatcher@rootsweb.com <hatcher@rootsweb.com> Cc: William Hatcher <thehatchers@windstream.net>; Anthony Barreto-Neto <tbn3@me.com> Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin One more thing, in October here roots web is having one of their hugh conferences in London which I plan on going to...I mean what else is this American Florida boy gonna do in Faversham Kent?? One of the speakers is two people off Who Do You Think You Are TV show that seem to find everyone and their cousins. I certainly hope they give me some insight as well... Tony If you don't wake up every morning Willing to die for what you believe in Then you don't believe in anything Sent from my iPad > On Aug 12, 2019, at 10:17 PM, Anthony Barreto-Neto via HATCHER <hatcher@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Thanks all of you. Yeah if I find a Hatchet living around there I'll grab them & force them (uh not), to get tested. > I'm also thinking of going to St George in Ogbourme (?) to see if I can find a marriage license in Wiltshire for Wm. & Marian Newporte & if finding one will of course try to copy & forward & see where it leads me. > > Also of interest one of the Hatchers married a Skinner and she (I suppose one of our (?) gggggg'grandmothers go all the way back to the 10th century. I wonder if from err her much later records of we could find anything that ties Wm to Marion? > > Seems hard to believe 2 WM. Could arrive in the same area of colonies both become members of Burgess and both have same children we descend from. Even barring a piece of paper (or 2 birds in a bush), how da hell many of them could there have been? > Oh & they came over about the same time but one lost a wife & kids on the way or not!? > > I did talk to the people who went to Careby and have photos but they are from an earlier Sir Thomas child nephew Indian chief in Careby cuz he died in 1711. So??? If Those records are there and they would not be on microfiche but originals which I'm told I might have to have a History Card to view (& I do), will be interesting indeed. > > If you don't wake up every morning > Willing to die for what you believe in > Then you don't believe in anything > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 12, 2019, at 9:41 PM, Sue Conley <sconley713@embarqmail.com> wrote: >> >> William, I have correspondence with Emory that goes back to 1990 plus all the Hatcher Family Research Association reports from 1990 to October 2000. I also have the three Hatcher volumes on Henry, Edward & Benjamin plus the volume on Jerry Proudfit & SC Moore. I would be happy to donate these to one of our active, current researchers. The box weighs approximately 30 lbs. & is 16 inches (length) 13 (height) & 10 1/2 width. I live in Tallahassee, FL if someone is driving through & could pick them up or I would be willing to ship if reimbursed for cost. I descend from William Greene Hatcher in central GA. My dad was Albert Sidney Hatcher of Macon, GA. >> Sue Hatcher Conley >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: William Hatcher <thehatchers@windstream.net> >> To: hatcher@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 13:45:25 -0400 (EDT) >> Subject: [HATCHER] Re: Mary Boykin >> >> Tony, You asked: "Didn’t someone else go there??" >> >> I remember quite a few years ago, and I am running stickily on memory, >> Emory Hatcher and the Hatcher Family Association at that time hired and >> paid a professional Genealogist in England to research the roots of >> William the Immigrant in the England locations. >> Again, best I can remember, nothing concrete was found or discovered and >> I believe Nel at one time had the results of this research shared with >> her back in the 90's right after I first got started in researching >> Hatcher genealogy and met Nel on line. >> I may have had the info on computer at one time, but after a massive >> computer failure back in early 2000, I unfortunately lost a lot of my >> saved records, documents, and notes. >> I believe Robert Hatcher aka Ala. Bob also had copies of this research? >> >> As to how deep they went or where all they looked I do not know. Maybe >> some of the other members might remember some of the finer details or >> have a copy of the research... >> William W. Hatcher >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avg.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C5fb2e7a34e45422b8c7008d71f6df76d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637012429467849660&amp;sdata=nYMKe1a6IFVGTolXB9nYJ83EhcknJhOaUkM%2BuHpC%2BVw%3D&amp;reserved=0 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Welcome to the Hatcher Mail list. 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Y-DNA is obviously useful in a surname project. Autosomal DNA (the test available through most testing companies) is also useful. If Hatcher descendants will upload their "raw data" to GEDmatch, and if this group will maintain a list of Hatcher descendants who have uploaded, and if family trees are available, much can be done. On 8/12/19, Bill Schultz <elbonian@live.com> wrote: > Folks: > > For whatever it's worth, I'm also involved with the Clay Family DNA project > (my direct ancestor was James Hatcher who married Sarah Clay) and what they > are doing is this: > > They actively recruited donations for DNA testing, getting several thousand > dollars in donations. Then, they've been buying Y-DNA 37 kits in bulk from > FTDNA. They have a man in England who places ads in genealogy society > magazines and so forth to locate Clay men who would like to have a free DNA > test in return for supplying a decent family tree. > > This process actually resulted in some success for me, personally. The > aforementioned Sarah Clay is the granddaughter of Percival Clay who was a > convict transportee from Yorkshire. I recruited a direct male descendant of > her brother to take a DNA test and the predicted haplotype (E-M25) is fairly > rare for England, although it did match a descendant of Sarah's uncle, so > I'm now fairly certain what I'm looking for in England. Unfortunately, the > best match so far is a gentleman from Warwickshire who has a family tree > back to the 1500s that doesn't show any relationship with Yorkshire. Also, > we have a third disconnected E-M35 family that shows up in New York state > sometime in the early 1800s and migrates to Washington County, PA. So, I now > have three tree leaves and no known connection. The hunt goes on. (There > are record of a Percival Clay in Yorkshire about a century before MY > Percival; we just need to find a descendant from THAT family who will take a > DNA test....) > > Anyway, that's how the Clay family is approaching the problem. If somebody > would assemble a decent-sized fund, and if Tony would be "our man in > England," then we might be able to do something similar..... > > == Bill