HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Thanks, Winnette! I'm usually "on a mission" when I'm in FaG and haven't really studied all the various links. Nel

Nel, Requested one for Robert Hatcher in WI so they are all in "requested" mode. None in Maine. None in Rhode Island Vermont has 2 already on New Hampshire has none Conn. has 3. I requested 2 but one is already up for Madeline in Mashantucket Pequot Cemetery. Requested all 3 in ND Only 1 in SD and that's already up Montana had 8 done and I requested the 1 remaining Started on Minnesota - requested 7 in Fort Snelling National Cemetery. Started on Idaho whre 11 are already up and I requested 4 when I hit my limit for the week. Only allowed 20 / week. So, I'll finish MN and ID and then NY has about 35 and Maryland has about 25 and then Mass next if not already done by someone else. Someone asked about copywrite. Yes, that's the disclaimer on findagrave but I know MANY folks have downloaded my photos. But if you download and/or request a copy, remember they may not be of great quality. To upload to findagrave, they have to be the smallest size. If I do not use the smallest setting on my digital camera, they will not accept them. Then I have to shrink and retry. I don't bother. I just use my smallest setting. Enlarging them does not always result in good copies. And, then for my nieces wedding in June, I forgot to change the size. I took, all 200+ shots in the smallest mode. Obviously not good photos when printed out. Darleen

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Winnette, Yes, I know how to contact the submitter and have done so in several cases, always providing the documented evidence. What has me annoyed are those who do not make the correction and do not respond at all. One particular example is where a maiden name has been listed for a Hatcher wife that is provably wrong. For the most part I've often seen corrections made within the same day. But I wasn't aware of techs being in the background. How do they become aware of a request for change made to one of the submitters and how are they aware thaf the change has or has not been made? Nel

Martha, We can ask that the volunteer send you the photograph. I have done this for close family members. That way I have it to put in my FTM as well. I don't think anyone who volunteers really care if you use the photo's, it is FAG that makes those rules. But, it is a good thing to learn in advance. Winnette --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 091021-0, 10/21/2009 Tested on: 10/22/2009 7:28:34 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

Nel, You do know if you find an entry with an error, you can click on edit and send the person the correct info. If they do not change it with in a few months, then FAG tech's will make attempts to get it done and if that fails, they will turn the submission over to the person who has the most and correct data. I have submitted over 11,000 (not many by most standards) and hardly a day goes by that someone doesn't want me to add or correct data. Typo's occur for we old folks and that is most often the primary cause of error. My trifocals give me much grief in this area. Also, if there are some entered of FAG for Thomas & Grady Counties in Georgia, I will try to get the photo's. However, there are many others that are signed up as photo volunteers for this area. Winnette --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 091021-0, 10/21/2009 Tested on: 10/22/2009 7:25:24 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Martha, The photos I use from FaG are always sourced to the site but not to the individual who took the picture. If someone like Tim Hites notifies me [giving me permission, so to speak] that he's uploaded more pics, I list him as the "contributor" and enter his FaG URL as the owner/source. Except in rare cases, I've never asked permission to use a photo that has been placed on a public site but always just give credit to the owner, if known, or the site. This, I believe, falls under the "fair use" part of the copyright law in that small pieces of data from a published work can be used by others without permission but with the data sourced to the owner. So I believe Winnette is correct and that the only way one might get into serious trouble over copyright issues is if an individual attempted to sell a large collection of data/pics from a site without getting permission. Nel

Nel, The question/answer below was on find a grave. Does this mean that before any grave marker photos can be uploaded to the Hatcher site, written permission to do so must be obtained? Just wondered....Martha Hatcher Welling I found a photo of a relative on Find A Grave, can I use it? Photos posted to memorials on Find A Grave are copyrighted by the member who submitted the photos. Lifting the photo to use elsewhere would be a violation of copyright. You must obtain written permission from the member to use any photo for your own use. In general if you did not take the photo yourself, you do not hold the copyright to the photo. [_Top_ (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=listFaqs#faqTop) ]

Washington state is finished and I even requested a photo for my own dad's marker! Martha Hatcher Welling In a message dated 10/21/2009 5:33:08 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Once in a while I have a brainstorm but this one will require a whole lot of volunteers........that means YOU :-) On Findagrave at www.findagrave.com it is possible to request a pic of a particular tombstone. I did it just now to see how the procedure works - easy! This is what you would need to do....... 1) Volunteer for a state and I will keep track of them. 2) Go to findagrave and search for hatcher in that state. 3) if a Hatcher does NOT have the tombstone icon, click on his/her name to bring up his/her page. 4) At the bottom right of that page, you will see the Request a Photo icon. 5) Click it and if you're not already registered, you must register. 6) Otherwise, enter your email addy and password. 7) If someone has already requested a photo, you need do nothing. 8) If not, all you need to do is click Submit 9) Continue this process untill all Hatchers with no pic have had a request made. If/when someone sends you the pic or a notification that it is now on findagrave, just let me know and we'll get it online. Any takers??

Nel, I will take Washington state if you don't already have someone doing it! Martha Hatcher Welling In a message dated 10/21/2009 5:33:08 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Once in a while I have a brainstorm but this one will require a whole lot of volunteers........that means YOU :-) On Findagrave at www.findagrave.com it is possible to request a pic of a particular tombstone. I did it just now to see how the procedure works - easy! This is what you would need to do....... 1) Volunteer for a state and I will keep track of them. 2) Go to findagrave and search for hatcher in that state. 3) if a Hatcher does NOT have the tombstone icon, click on his/her name to bring up his/her page. 4) At the bottom right of that page, you will see the Request a Photo icon. 5) Click it and if you're not already registered, you must register. 6) Otherwise, enter your email addy and password. 7) If someone has already requested a photo, you need do nothing. 8) If not, all you need to do is click Submit 9) Continue this process untill all Hatchers with no pic have had a request made. If/when someone sends you the pic or a notification that it is now on findagrave, just let me know and we'll get it online. Any takers??

Nel, Your wish is my command! There are only 4 HATCHER's in Wisconsin on findagrave. Requested them. If you want me to do some other states, just let me know. Remember, the northern states have to be worked before the snow falls!!!! I had someone from LA expecting a photo from a cemetery here in January. I wrote I'd get it as soon I could get through the snow banks! Were you asking us to find names on the Hatcher website who are known to be buried in Wisconsin, upload them to findagrave, and then request a photo -- were you? That's another kettle of fish but can be done. Darleen

sent this from the wrong email address, so will try again. /Darleen Nel, I'll do Hatcher's on findagrave in the state of Wisconsin. I'm already registered. I have over 5,000 uploaded. FYI, when you request a photo, the volunteers for that zip code get an email. I automatically get requests for cemeteries in zip codes within a 15-10 mile radius. I know there are other volunteers getting the same notice. If I know we are going one direction, I look at other zip codes/cemeteries and plan our route to fulfill as many as possible. The volunteer can "claim" it or not. If "claimed" it must be done in 7 days. When the volunteer has the photo, they upload it under the "fulfill" category and when uploaded it sends the person who requested the photo an email saying their request has been done (fulfilled). All through the system. Darleen Chipman PS - You didn't say what you were going to do with the picture you requested of us. I would have picked one where my hair was at least organized! From both of us, thanks for the honor.

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Darleen, First - Robert E Hatcher. Yes, would like to have the tombstone pic, too. Then - I'm more and more impressed with how findagrave operates on getting these pics. I have more confidence in the data when I know someone, often unrelated, took that pic. In the recent past I've not been overly happy with many of the Hatcher entries that do NOT have a tombstone pic, It appears that many people are adding names and dates of people they may only "believe" were buried there. There are wrong names and dates being listed, additional info added that in some cases I have proof is wrong, etc, etc. It tends to look as if people are just adding unproven data from their family file. And Wisconsin is already done!! Thank you :-) I suspect many of the northern states will not have all that many Hatchers per state. "Were you asking us to find names on the Hatcher website who are known to be buried in Wisconsin, upload them to findagrave, and then request a photo -- were you?" NO! In fact, I had not thought of that angle. That would, yes, be a trickier can of worms :-) But if you're looking for more fun, you could start with Maine and work down thru the NE states. My suspicion is that it may be only NY and NJ where you'll find any Hatchers.....but we could still check them off the states list as DONE. Now I happen to think the pic you sent was lovely!! I could've worked with one of the reunion pics where ya' both looked like ya' lost your comb :-) Nel

Nel, Question -- On Robert E Hatcher, buried in West Beef River Cemetery, Strum, Tempealeau County, WI there already is a portrait photo of him. Do you want a gravestone photo too? I requested one for his wife Marion Halverson HATCHER. When I did so, I was notified there were at least 4 volunteers within a 10-mile radius and 10 volunteers within a 50-mile radius. Darleen J. Chipman

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Sharon, Michigan is yours! Go fer it! Nel

I can do Michigan if you'd like. Sharon ________________________________ From: nelhatch <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:18:37 PM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] I have an idea.....! HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Ah, that's interesting to know, Rena. And obviously Virginia would be a huge state to deal with. But I'd bet we could knock out a whole bunch of smaller states with just a half dozen volunteers. Nel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Ah, that's interesting to know, Rena. And obviously Virginia would be a huge state to deal with. But I'd bet we could knock out a whole bunch of smaller states with just a half dozen volunteers. Nel

I forgot to add that once a photo request is placed on a marker, another one may not be placed, and so anyone else working on the same state can't duplicate effort. A note will come up saying a photo request already exists on that marker. I am a volunteer for Find-a-grave, but i am not able to walk a great distance any more because of back pain.. anyone know a good "Natural herb" for back pain? I HATE dr's. Rena    ----- Original Message ---- From: nelhatch <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 8:18:37 PM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] I have an idea.....! HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Ah, that's interesting to know, Rena. And obviously Virginia would be a huge state to deal with. But I'd bet we could knock out a whole bunch of smaller states with just a half dozen volunteers. Nel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Once in a while I have a brainstorm but this one will require a whole lot of volunteers........that means YOU :-) On Findagrave at www.findagrave.com it is possible to request a pic of a particular tombstone. I did it just now to see how the procedure works - easy! This is what you would need to do....... 1) Volunteer for a state and I will keep track of them. 2) Go to findagrave and search for hatcher in that state. 3) if a Hatcher does NOT have the tombstone icon, click on his/her name to bring up his/her page. 4) At the bottom right of that page, you will see the Request a Photo icon. 5) Click it and if you're not already registered, you must register. 6) Otherwise, enter your email addy and password. 7) If someone has already requested a photo, you need do nothing. 8) If not, all you need to do is click Submit 9) Continue this process untill all Hatchers with no pic have had a request made. If/when someone sends you the pic or a notification that it is now on findagrave, just let me know and we'll get it online. Any takers?? Nel

Hi Tim, My name is Judy (Dyer) Bowen. We are cousins through Lot Inskeep. Son Silas Hatcher, Daughter Ida Belle Lisby or Lusby, Daughter Wilma Foulk, Son Charles Foulk then Me. I have not been active for several years. Went to single mom and had no time. Now on medical for a couple months and would like to get started again. I have really enjoyed the last couple of days of e-mails. And like Paul, when I started I never wrote down my sources. Thanks to you guys I want to get going. Judy B. -----Original message----- From: Timothy Hites [email protected] Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:34:04 -0400 To: [email protected] Subject: [HATCHER] my lineage- for Tom > Tom, > I am a descendant of James. > > (1)Wm Sr.- > ..(2)James Sr- > ...(3)Isaac-James- > ....(4)Lot Inskeep- > .....(5)Daniel Wade- > ......(6)Clara Ellen+ Harley Edwin Hites > .......(7)Willis Elmer Hites- > ........(8)"Me" > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

   You can only do 20 request a week. I started on virginia. First i pulled up cemetery name "Hatcher" and did those.. then i started on any cemetery with a Hatcher, and did about 15. anyway, some of the 365 hatcher burials in va have been requested.  ----- Original Message ---- From: nelhatch <[email protected]> To: HATCHERLIST <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 7:33:22 PM Subject: [HATCHER] I have an idea.....! HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Once in a while I have a brainstorm but this one will require a whole lot of volunteers........that means YOU :-) On Findagrave at www.findagrave.com it is possible to request a pic of a particular tombstone. I did it just now to see how the procedure works - easy! This is what you would need to do....... 1) Volunteer for a state and I will keep track of them. 2) Go to findagrave and search for hatcher in that state. 3) if a Hatcher does NOT have the tombstone icon, click on his/her name to bring up his/her page. 4) At the bottom right of that page, you will see the Request a Photo icon. 5) Click it and if you're not already registered, you must register. 6) Otherwise, enter your email addy and password. 7) If someone has already requested a photo, you need do nothing. 8) If not, all you need to do is click Submit 9) Continue this process untill all Hatchers with no pic have had a request made. If/when someone sends you the pic or a notification that it is now on findagrave, just let me know and we'll get it online. Any takers?? Nel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message