Hi Evelyn, that query was from DAVE in St. Louis, asking in which Loveland you are living?  I was photographing the Loveland ski area on Monday, a day before their 8" snow hit....and I didn't see you.   Of course, NOW, I find out you are near Ft. Collins! Dave   DAVID DAVIS ASSOCIATES - ARCHITECTS 40 Broadview Drive / St. Louis, MO 63105 Mail: PO Box 9219 / St. Louis, MO 63117 1-314-721-5852 (bus) [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------- --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Evelyn Lee <[email protected]> wrote: From: Evelyn Lee <[email protected]> Subject: [HATCHER] (no subject) To: [email protected] Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 1:35 PM  Sunshine on the mountains, beautiful blue sky, storybook picture, oh what the heck, Calif. cous bring an 18 wheeler and we can supply you with anough snow to fill it from just our front yard. Don't know how I managed to totally loose the last message but it must be in outer space some place as I can not find it any where on the computer.   I beleive it was Steve in St. Louis, asking where Loveland was, where else but beautiful Colorado, stop in some time cous, we can always throw a pallet on the floor. Evelyn       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

 Sunshine on the mountains, beautiful blue sky, storybook picture, oh what the heck, Calif. cous bring an 18 wheeler and we can supply you with anough snow to fill it from just our front yard. Don't know how I managed to totally loose the last message but it must be in outer space some place as I can not find it any where on the computer.   I beleive it was Steve in St. Louis, asking where Loveland was, where else but beautiful Colorado, stop in some time cous, we can always throw a pallet on the floor. Evelyn

I'll take it and share ;) > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:43:34 -0600 > Subject: Re: [HATCHER] (no subject) > > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld > > But, but, but!! I thought California was PARA-dise! <evil grin> > > Several tons of snow will be shipped UPS asap - how's dat?? > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Simplify your PC. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen1:102009

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld But, but, but!! I thought California was PARA-dise! <evil grin> Several tons of snow will be shipped UPS asap - how's dat?? Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Evelyn, We don't do snoeshoes. We simply hibernate :-) It was supposed to be 7-14 inches for us but looks like we'll get thru it with about 6 inches. You are right about the "no credit" situation. But it's also true that there are only a few "original" copiers with everyone else copying from him/her. And it's often impossible to know who was "first." When you know that seasoned and experienced researchers do not copy whole pages of information from someone else's file, including personal notes, without giving proper credit, you also know all of these copiers are amateurs with limited or no knowledge of copyright issues. While documents or any public record are NOT copyrightable and can certainly be "copied" no matter where you find them, personal writings ARE protected. I have also seen a few egregious examples of a "copier" not only copying my words but interspersing his/her own words into the mix, leaving the clear impression with the viewer that this entire scenario was researched solely by the "copier." But it's also a waste of time and effort to chase after these guys. As you point out, our presence on Google is large and in the long run our site will be found. And once that happens, the "copiers" are left in the dust :-) Sooo......back to the tombstones as I watch the snow fall....and fall! Nel

You guys are making me so jealous!! I want winter to come to California so bad, I would even take the snow. It has been an endless summer and much too dry. Joyce > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:20:27 -0600 > Subject: Re: [HATCHER] (no subject) > > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld > > Evelyn, > > We don't do snoeshoes. We simply hibernate :-) > > It was supposed to be 7-14 inches for us but looks like we'll get thru it with about 6 inches. > > You are right about the "no credit" situation. But it's also true that there are only a few "original" copiers with everyone else copying from him/her. And it's often impossible to know who was "first." > > When you know that seasoned and experienced researchers do not copy whole pages of information from someone else's file, including personal notes, without giving proper credit, you also know all of these copiers are amateurs with limited or no knowledge of copyright issues. While documents or any public record are NOT copyrightable and can certainly be "copied" no matter where you find them, personal writings ARE protected. > > I have also seen a few egregious examples of a "copier" not only copying my words but interspersing his/her own words into the mix, leaving the clear impression with the viewer that this entire scenario was researched solely by the "copier." > > But it's also a waste of time and effort to chase after these guys. As you point out, our presence on Google is large and in the long run our site will be found. And once that happens, the "copiers" are left in the dust :-) > > Sooo......back to the tombstones as I watch the snow fall....and fall! > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Simplify your PC. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen1:102009

Good morning, Get you snowshoes on, it is coming your way.  We have had 16.5 inches thus far in Loveland and it is still snowing lightly. Just went on Google for "Hatcher".  I was amazed at all the different sites listed for it and did notice some of it was pay, the crests for sale, various families genealogy and much that read like it came from your Hatcher site and I didn't see any credits to you .  I am sure that it is possible to find other info from various sites, but I doubt that it is possible to do so without it being rather costly.  As much time, effort, money and etc. that you have put into this wonderful HATCHER site with much help with others, I think it appalling   for others to copy and not give credit. Have a good snow day...............Evelyn

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CynthiaDaniel97 Surnames: Hatcher, Mundy Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.hatcher/557.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I believe the wife of John Bunyan Hatcher, Jr. was Clara Mundy. Am seeking her death date and location. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: winn Surnames: Wyche, Williams Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.hatcher/995.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found this obituary for an African American Woman named Artie Williams. Thomasville Times Enterprise Published August 18, 2006 11:32 pm Services for Artie Lee (Wyche) Williams, 79, are at noon Monday Artie Lee (Wyche) Williams Services for Artie Lee (Wyche) Williams, 79, are at noon Monday, Aug. 21, 2006, at Disciples of Jesus Ministries. Dr. Irsael Blake will officiate and interment will be at Peaceful Rest Cemetery. Pall bearers will be friends of the family. Mrs. Williams died Wednesday, Aug. 16, 2006. Born June 17, 1927, in Thomas County, she was the daughter of the late Sam and Lucendy Wyche and a life-long resident of Thomasville. She was a homemaker and a member of Power and Glory Ministries. She was married to Sampson Williams Sr., who preceded her in death. Survivors include sons James Williams , Sampson Williams Jr., Tommy Williams, Arthur Williams, Larry Williams, Alvin Williams, Tommy Lenorris Williams; daughters Theresa Shockley, Evelyn Tayor, Brenda Alexander and Beryl Blake; grandchildren Jennifer McGee, Timothy Williams, James Williams, Melinda Sullivan, Kristie Alford, Eston King, Felicia Warren, Jonathan Warren, Cedric Williams, Lisa Farrell, Rosiland Mack, Samantha Williams, Roderick Bean, Tommy L. Williams, Morris Williams, Donna Powell, Aleria Davis, Trevena Williams, Arthur J. Williams, Quinton Williams, Monica Jenkins, Johnny Higdon Jr., Yvondria Kellogg, Tynisha Williams, Natasha Williams, Anissa Williams, LaToya Myers, Shineka King, Eboni Williams, Elsje Alexander, Sherri Alexander, Jeffery Alexander, Amber Copeland, Kandace Blake, Kamberlyn Blake, Jada Blake, Endia Hadley, Amelia Hadley, Kyley Hester, Jessica Williams and Tommy Nicholas Williams Jr.; 59 great-grandchildren; sisters Marie Williams, Mary Williams! and Crotel Lawyer; brothers James Wyche, Nathaniel Wyche and O'Neal Wyche. She was preceded in death by her son, Sam J. Williams. Visitation will be from noon until 8:30 p.m. Sunday, Aug. 20. The remains will lie in state Monday from 10 a.m. until the funeral hour, with no viewing after the eulogy. - Hatcher-Peoples Funeral Home . Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: winn Surnames: Williams Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.hatcher/995.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I will be happy to help you, but I will need some dates and as much info as possible in order find his parents for you. Winnette Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld I've just finished CO, DE and DC photo requests. Moving on to FL.......... Nel

Thanks, Nel. The names other than THOMPSON are so old that I am not surprised. (By the way, our surname is spelled with just one "p".) Blessings! Martha Penick LAMKIN ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] More cemetery confusion... > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a > brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld > > Hah! There are 4 Thompson cems in GreenCo but I found yours, Martha. USGS > has no alternate names nor does a search for Brummal, Pennick or Motley > produce anything. > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.29/2455 - Release Date: 10/24/09 06:43:00

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: phfl20 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.hatcher/995.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would like to know who is Artie Williams father. I have Williams in my family that live in Thomasville, Georgia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Sorry, Nel - - that's in Green County, KY, on Hwy 61. Martha ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] More cemetery confusion... > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a > brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld > > Martha, > > Just for giggles, where is your Thompson-Brummal-Pennick-Motley cemetery > lodated? County-state? > > It will be interesting to see what pops up on USGS...... > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.29/2455 - Release Date: 10/24/09 06:43:00

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Hah! There are 4 Thompson cems in GreenCo but I found yours, Martha. USGS has no alternate names nor does a search for Brummal, Pennick or Motley produce anything. Nel

Nel, It sounds as if your request was removed, but, I would have thought only you could have removed it. But, I am not that up on these things. I have 18 pics requested for the Hatcher Cemetery in Dallas Co., AL. Hoping someone will do those. Winnette --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 091023-0, 10/23/2009 Tested on: 10/24/2009 1:07:37 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

Nel: Another example of cemetery confusion: My paternal grandmother's family is buried in a family graveyard on the THOMPSON family homestead. This THOMPSON Family Cemetery contains burials from 1912 to 1988, and is referred to by that name in all legal documents, courthouse records, etc. during that time period. An older section of the same cemetery contains burials from 1834 to 1892, during which time the cemetery was called the BRUMMAL-PENICK Cemetery, and legal documents, etc., during that time period referred to it by that name. Yet another, still older, section, contains a number of unmarked graves plus two legible tombstones, with dates from 1828 to 1865, and the graveyard was called the MOTLEY Family Graveyard during those years and in documents of that time period. I was well along into my research before I did a reading of the cemetery, took photos, and put the puzzle pieces together. The name of the same cemetery had simply changed according to the ownership of the land at the time and the surnames of family members being buried in it at that time. Martha Penick LAMKIN, Louisville, KY ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] cemeteries > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a > brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld > > Debbie, > > Sometimes you can resolve this issue using USGS. They have many historical > names and/or alternate names listed. I've found a number of creeks by > searching for the name in that very old deed and finding alternate names, > including the current name. Doesn't work all the time but always worth a > try. > > And many times you may not find the cemetery listed but will find the > [historical] church of the same name. > > I have sometimes run into problems when people give me the name of a > cemetery that can't be found on fag but on USGS, up pops the church. > Further digging discovers that this "church" cemetery had been turned over > to the city/town and now has a new name. I'm now trying hard to include > aka names on our files. > > Gets confuzin' sometimes :-) > > Nel > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.28/2454 - Release Date: 10/23/09 14:09:00

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Martha, Just for giggles, where is your Thompson-Brummal-Pennick-Motley cemetery lodated? County-state? It will be interesting to see what pops up on USGS...... Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Winnette, While I said "many months", it could have been as long as 1-3 years ago. It may be that fag simply didn't have all the bugs worked out or a mechanism in place to do back then what they can do today. You need only look at where we are today compared to 2 years ago. But I'm wishing you a 100 pounds of luck getting pics from the DallasCo Hatcher cem based on its location and the description Ala Bob gave a few years ago. I am guessing it will take far more effort than the hike Don had to take thru a soybean field. Overgrown is probably an understatement. Nel

Nel, go to your profile page, you will find a list of everything you have done, including photo request. You can click on that and all you have requested will come up. If it is still listed, it probably means, there are no volunteers in that area. Winnette ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Findagrave > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a > brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld > > Tim wrote: > "In instances where there is no marker for an FAG request that you claim, > there is an option to recommend removal of the photo request, but not to > remove the memorial itself." > > I think this is touching on one of my concerns. Many months ago I put in a > request for a photo for someone I had questions about, not being at all > sure this person would have been buried where it was claimed he was > buried. I do remember that the death date given was in the mid to late > 1800s so not at all recent. > > I never rec'd a response. There is much info on submitting photos or data > and how the volunteer process works. I think I saw where volunteers could > access a list of all the requests they've processed. But there was nothing > to show that a requestor could access a list of their requests. > > You state that you as a volunteer can recommend removal of a request but > not removal of the memorial. > > So I'm left wondering the following..... > > Did anyone ever accept my request? > Is it still sitting in limboland waiting for a volunteer? > Did a volunteer find the cemetery but not a marker and not notify me, > perhaps just "removing my request"? > Was this a "lost cemetery" that no one could find or had ever heard of? > Did the cemetery now have another name with the name as entered by the > original submitter lost to history? > > It would certainly seem the most desirable method of handing a "no marker" > or "no cemetery found" situation would be to do as Tim mentioned - add a > note to that memorial's page stating his findings. But at the very least, > let the requestor know. > > As it stands, I feel like my request fell down the rabbit hole :-( > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 091023-0, 10/23/2009 Tested on: 10/24/2009 10:16:47 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com