HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Gang, I'm still on a roll. And now I'm brain picking again...........! Paul - for you. Who is Anderson Duncan, supposed father of Mary Malinda? And how do you know for sure he's her father? Does anyone have any info on Zachariah Duncan [1780-1790] of SanduskyCo, OH, died 1843 with kids Jackson bn 1820, dau bn 1822, dau bn 1824, Andrew bn 1826, Margaret bn 1831, Julia bn 1833? Named kids are proven. I think it's possible Mary Malinda is Zach's dau and not Anderson's. Her age fits with one of the unnamed daus. Does the name Amos White ring any bells with anyone? He seems to have a connection to Julia Duncan but we don't quite know what. How about Joseph Keller who was the guardian of Margaret and Julia? Julia had an illegitimate son named Robert L bn 1857 SanduskyCo and an unnamed Hatcher father. There have never been found any Hatchers in SanduskyCo in the 1850-1860 time frame and I strongly suspect that Julia met one of James Duncan Hatcher's relatives in the Logan/Champaign area while visiting her sister, Mary Malinda. Robert married and died in MI but his son, Dr Robert L Hatcher, ended up moving to CRAWFORDCo, OH where he died. Seems like CrawfordCo is the place where too many of our Hatcher people go to die :-( Dive right in, guys! Looking for any tidbits you can dredge up........... Nel

Nel, Google Elizabeth Jane EICHELBERGER Paul

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Ah-hah! Nothing at all of interest in searching for Elizabeth.Jane.Eichelberger. BUT! When I googled Elizabeth.Eichelberger hatcher, I came up with some most interesting hits! One of them was our own site reffing http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/getperson.php?personID=I1365&tree=QHatcher Again, we've got unsourced data on this page, but what struck me as most interesting is that Phoebe died in CrawfordCo, OH. And that is where I just found Casper and Mary in the 1850 census which confirms Adeline, Sam, John and JANE as kids. Since Phoebe died in 1929, don't know why CrawfordCo may have any importance but something took her there in her old age. I'm going to spend some time working to source Casper's family and see what I come up with. If anyone has any input on Casper Eichelberger, let's hear it!! Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Paul, You get up too early!! :-) So....I've been diggin in the censi and I'm NOT having any luck at all with ChampaignCo and the Eichelbergers. On soundex Eichelberger in Champaign None in 1830, 1840, 1850 On eic* in all of OH No name even close in 1830 - eickemeyer was closest In 1840 we have... ...George, John and Henry Eichelbarger in MontgomeryCo ...John and 2 Daniel Eickleberger in MontgomeryCo ...Jacob Eichelberg in MuskingumCo ...Adam and Charles Eichelberger in WayneCo ...Charles Eichelberger in ButlerCo ...Henry Eichelberger in Hamilton and FairfieldCo ...Christian EICHER in CHAMPAIGNCo, 1 dau bn 1835-40 ...David and Daniel EICKER in LOGANCo, 1 dau bn 1835-40 On eic* in 1850 ChampaignCo 1 Eichholtz family in Salem Twp, dau Elizabeth bn 1850 1 Eicker family, no Eliz or Jane On eic* in 1850 LoganCo 1 Eichelberger family, no Eliz or Jane 1 Eicher family, no Eliz or Jane On Eliz*, Jan* and Joa* bn 1829-1839 in 1850 Champaign and LoganCo. No one even close. Soooo.........regroup, rethink.....not sure where to go from here.........! Nel

Nel, The EICHELBERGER's were from Champaign county, Ohio, which borders Logan county on the south. Isaac and James's HATCHER's property was originally in Salem Twp., Champaign county, where their deed is recorded, but when Logan county was created from Champaign county, their property straddled the two county lines. Most of their early descendants lived in Logan county, but the two county courthouses are only about 30 miles apart. Abel Thomas 'Abe' HATCHER, was born in Mt. Tabor, Salem Twp., Champaign county, Ohio. There are Jane and Joan EICHELBERGER's in Champaign county, but I am no longer a member of Ancestry.com. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] To our Quaker Hatchers.......... > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a > brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld > > One more question! How is it known that Elizabeth was an Eichelberger and > not a Jones or Smith? > > There were no Eichelbergers in Logan in 1840. There was one family in > 1850 - Henry and Priscilla, age 26, with kids Adam 10, George 8, Wm 6, > Priscilla 3. No Elizabeth. In 1860 this family was gone. > > Anyone got more on the Eichelbergers? > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Nel, Rushsylvania cemetery, Rushcreek Twp., Logan county, Ohio, Section 2: HATCHER, Daniel d. Jan. 4, 1884, 57y 11m ? , William H. died May 2, 1851, 2y 9m 18d, son of U ? & M.A. (stone broken in half) DOBIE, infant daughter d. Oct. 21, 1855, daughter of I.M.? & S.A? HATCHER, Christinia d. Jan. 31, 1854, 1y 2m 15d, daughter of A.T. & E.J. [Abel Thomas & Elizabeth J.] DOBIE, Elwood d. Nov. 15 1853, 1y 5m 1d, son of G.W. & S.A. HATCHER, John E. d. Dec.24,1853 1y 7d, son of D[aniel] & Jane [BUTLER] HATCHER, Harry M. or H? d.June 21, 1876, 2y 8m, son of A.T. [Abel Thomas] & E. [Elizabeth J.]. Above all in a columb in "Bokes Creek and Rushsylvania, Logan County Ohio Cemetery Book" I did mean 1838, but she still would have conceived almost on her 14th birthday! Elizabeth (EICHELBARGER) HATCHER died more than 40 years before her husband, Abel Thomas. Paul > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld > > Paul, > > I think you made a typo here........ > > "Elizabeth Jane could not have been born in 1833, or she would have been only 14 years old when her daughter was born." > > I think you meant "born in 1838" since her dau was born Nov 1852. But I would disagree with the premise that 14 was too young. Phoebe was born Feb 1838 and if she were the mother of Christina, she would have been almost 15 at her birth. Keeping in mind that Phoebe was an orphan before 1850, I think it's entirely possible that permission may have been given for her to marry at age 14. It's not at all common but I've seen proof of a few of these "younger than normal" marriages. > > I agree with your details on Phoebe's death but not where she died. She died in CrawfordCo, OH. Here is that DC from FamilySearch.org. > > Name : Elizabeth Hatcher > Death date : 02 Nov 1929 > Death place : Crestline, Crawford, Ohio > Birth date : 21 Feb 1838 > Estimated birth year : > Birth place : Belfontaine, , Ohio > Age at death : 91 years 8 months 11 days > Gender : Female > Marital status : Widowed > Race or color : Caucasian > Street address : 336 N. Columbus > Occupation : Housewife > Residence : > Burial date : 04 Nov 1929 > Burial place : Rushsylvania, , Ohio > Cemetery name : > Spouse name : Abel T. Hatcher > Father name : John B. Patrick > Father titles : > Father birth place : , , Ireland > Mother name : Malinda Sutherland > Mother titles : > Mother birth place : , , Ohio > GSU film number : 1992019 > Digital GS number : 4022360 > Image number : 2760 > Certificate number : fn 68975 > Collection : Ohio Deaths 1908-1953 > > > Note that she uses Elizabeth equally with Phoebe: 2 Phebes in censi, 2 Elizabeths in censi, Elizabeth on her DC and apparently her tombstone. > > And if you're sure that Phoebe Elizabeth is on the same tombstone with Abel, then WHERE THE HECK is Elizabeth Eichelbarger??? Should she not be buried right next to Abel? Where is Christina buried? Should she not be buried next to her mother? > > So I'm still not seeing any evidence for the existence of Eichelbarger. And I'm wondering if it was assumed that Abel must have had a 1st wife because Phoebe was "too young." If that was the case, I'm still not seeing how Eichelbarger happened to be chosen. > > At this point, I really believe he had only 1 wife - Phoebe - unless someone has more clues to toss out. > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld One more question! How is it known that Elizabeth was an Eichelberger and not a Jones or Smith? There were no Eichelbergers in Logan in 1840. There was one family in 1850 - Henry and Priscilla, age 26, with kids Adam 10, George 8, Wm 6, Priscilla 3. No Elizabeth. In 1860 this family was gone. Anyone got more on the Eichelbergers? Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Paul, I'm going to ask for the pics of both Christina and Harry and hope they're still legible. But I'm still confused not seeing Abel and Elizabeth and/or Phoebe listed here. I don't understand why they wouldn't be close to their own children or at least in the same section. Since it's winter in OH, don't know how active the volunteers will be so this could be a long wait....... And, yup! IF Phoebe was his only wife, she would have been just 14 when she conceived. If so, it's also possible it was a shotgun wedding. Thank you! We're making progress but I'm still not 100% convinced :-) Nel

Nel, The Eichelberger's came from Champaign county, Ohio. I have not searched those cemeteries Elizabeth Jane could not have been born in 1833, or she would have been only 14 years old when her daughter was born. The Elizabeth on Abel's stone Phebe Elizabeth born 22 Feb. 1838, and died after 1920 while living with her son Fred in Cleveland, Cuyahoga county, Ohio. Aren't you glad he was not known to have married another Elizabeth? Paul > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a > brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld > > Paul, > > I think I understand what you're saying about a spouse's name on a dbl > tombstone with only a birth date. One of them died and the other is still > living. > > But in this case "Elizabeth" supposedly died in 1855, long before Abel > died, and it should be she who has both birth and death dates on the > stone. > > Again, I have to say I don't exactly know how or why some of these > memorials are set up. I've seen some with both birth and death dates > "unknown." Some have death date "unknown." Others have birth date > "unknown." And this situation does not necessarily mean illegible dates > since I've seen tombstone pics added later with very clear dates. > > At this point, I have no idea if Elizabeth is really buried there or what > her dates may be. I'll have to see what comes back from the FAG volunteer. > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hey Gang I have been to the Rushsylvania cemetery, Logan county, Ohio, almost 40 years ago and recorded the names and dates. It definitly not uncommon to have the spouses name inscribed on the stone. After she was paying for it. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] To our Quaker Hatchers.......... > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a > brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld > > Judy, > > That's much the same as is on our file and totally unsourced. > > One of the major problems is that "Elizabeth" buried in Rushsylvania has a > birth date of 2-22-1838 but no death date, according to FAG. At the same > time the DC for Phoebe Elizabeth Patrick Hatcher has a birth date of > 2-21-1838 calced from yrs, mos, days of her age. Just one day apart? > > Sorry but that is a major big red flag for me!!! > > I'm also not all that sure that there were 4 other kids. I know there was > Lydia and Casper bn 1854 and 1855. But Harry M hasn't been proven to > belong in this family. Have also asked for his tombstone pic. Fred M was > definitely found with Abel and Phoebe as a 2 yr old in the 1880 and his ML > listed his parents as Abel and Phoebe. BUT! This child was born 23 yrs > after Casper was born and is another big red flag. My bet is that Fred was > a gson and possibly Lydia's kid. > > Tangled webs...........! > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Paul, I think you made a typo here........ "Elizabeth Jane could not have been born in 1833, or she would have been only 14 years old when her daughter was born." I think you meant "born in 1838" since her dau was born Nov 1852. But I would disagree with the premise that 14 was too young. Phoebe was born Feb 1838 and if she were the mother of Christina, she would have been almost 15 at her birth. Keeping in mind that Phoebe was an orphan before 1850, I think it's entirely possible that permission may have been given for her to marry at age 14. It's not at all common but I've seen proof of a few of these "younger than normal" marriages. I agree with your details on Phoebe's death but not where she died. She died in CrawfordCo, OH. Here is that DC from FamilySearch.org. Name : Elizabeth Hatcher Death date : 02 Nov 1929 Death place : Crestline, Crawford, Ohio Birth date : 21 Feb 1838 Estimated birth year : Birth place : Belfontaine, , Ohio Age at death : 91 years 8 months 11 days Gender : Female Marital status : Widowed Race or color : Caucasian Street address : 336 N. Columbus Occupation : Housewife Residence : Burial date : 04 Nov 1929 Burial place : Rushsylvania, , Ohio Cemetery name : Spouse name : Abel T. Hatcher Father name : John B. Patrick Father titles : Father birth place : , , Ireland Mother name : Malinda Sutherland Mother titles : Mother birth place : , , Ohio GSU film number : 1992019 Digital GS number : 4022360 Image number : 2760 Certificate number : fn 68975 Collection : Ohio Deaths 1908-1953 Note that she uses Elizabeth equally with Phoebe: 2 Phebes in censi, 2 Elizabeths in censi, Elizabeth on her DC and apparently her tombstone. And if you're sure that Phoebe Elizabeth is on the same tombstone with Abel, then WHERE THE HECK is Elizabeth Eichelbarger??? Should she not be buried right next to Abel? Where is Christina buried? Should she not be buried next to her mother? So I'm still not seeing any evidence for the existence of Eichelbarger. And I'm wondering if it was assumed that Abel must have had a 1st wife because Phoebe was "too young." If that was the case, I'm still not seeing how Eichelbarger happened to be chosen. At this point, I really believe he had only 1 wife - Phoebe - unless someone has more clues to toss out. Nel

> > Nel, I have the following information about Abel, but did not write down my sources. Sorry Abel and Elizabeth Jane Eichilbarger were married 2, Mar. 1852. She died 19, June 1855. One child: Christenia. Born 16, Nov. 1852. Died 31, Jan. 1854. They are buried at the Rushsylvania Cem. Abel and Phebe were married 11, Nov. 1855. They had 4 children. A cuz from Ohio Judy (Dyer) Bowen

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Paul, I think I understand what you're saying about a spouse's name on a dbl tombstone with only a birth date. One of them died and the other is still living. But in this case "Elizabeth" supposedly died in 1855, long before Abel died, and it should be she who has both birth and death dates on the stone. Again, I have to say I don't exactly know how or why some of these memorials are set up. I've seen some with both birth and death dates "unknown." Some have death date "unknown." Others have birth date "unknown." And this situation does not necessarily mean illegible dates since I've seen tombstone pics added later with very clear dates. At this point, I have no idea if Elizabeth is really buried there or what her dates may be. I'll have to see what comes back from the FAG volunteer. Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Judy, That's much the same as is on our file and totally unsourced. One of the major problems is that "Elizabeth" buried in Rushsylvania has a birth date of 2-22-1838 but no death date, according to FAG. At the same time the DC for Phoebe Elizabeth Patrick Hatcher has a birth date of 2-21-1838 calced from yrs, mos, days of her age. Just one day apart? Sorry but that is a major big red flag for me!!! I'm also not all that sure that there were 4 other kids. I know there was Lydia and Casper bn 1854 and 1855. But Harry M hasn't been proven to belong in this family. Have also asked for his tombstone pic. Fred M was definitely found with Abel and Phoebe as a 2 yr old in the 1880 and his ML listed his parents as Abel and Phoebe. BUT! This child was born 23 yrs after Casper was born and is another big red flag. My bet is that Fred was a gson and possibly Lydia's kid. Tangled webs...........! Nel

Nel, Found the following but don't know if it's of any help.....Ray Elizabeth Eichelbarger found in: Ohio County and Family Histories, 1780-1970 Listed in: Springfield, Clark Counties Page number: 816 Elizabeth Eichelbarger found in: US - Census Index (1850) Township: Ephrata County: Lancaster State: Pennsylvania Roll: 789 Page: 156 Elizabeth Eichelbarger found in: US - Census Index (1860) Age: 52 Gender: F State: Ohio County: Darke Town: Twin Birth Location: PA Roll: 956 Elizabeth Eichelbarger found in: US - Census Index (1860) Age: 25 Gender: F State: Pennsylvania County: York Town: Monaghan Birth Location: PA Roll: 1201 Elizabeth Eichelbarger found in: US - Census Index (1870) State: Ohio Roll: 1249 County: Montgomery Town: Dayton Ward 6 Post Office: Dayton Page: 237 Age: 93 Sex: Female Race: White Birth Location: Pennsylvania Matches in Message Boards GenForum is the largest message board on the Internet devoted entirely to genealogy. With over 8 million messages, you have a great opportunity to connect with other researchers - maybe even some who are already working on your family line! Elizabeth Eichelbarger Re: Rea\Hatcher 1790's Logan Co., OH Logan county, Ohio +Elizabeth Jane EICHELBARGER Born: 22 February 1838 I couldn't find anything on a Phoebe Elizabeth Patrick in Ohio or PA. but did find a Phoebe A. Patrick in Ohio.....Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <[email protected]> To: "HATCHERLIST" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: [HATCHER] To our Quaker Hatchers.......... > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a > brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld > > Good morning! > > I am looking for anyone who has proof of Abel Thomas Hatcher's wives who > are supposedly > > 1) Elizabeth Jane Eichelbarger and > 2) Phoebe Elizabeth Patrick > > What proof of their last names and marriage dates exists. > > Our file shows their birth dates to be exactly one day apart and I'm > beginning to wonder if there was only one wife - Miss Patrick. > > Thanks!! > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.85/2532 - Release Date: 11/28/09 07:45:00

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld And here's what I've got on these wives........ Liz Eichelbarger supposedly md Abel in 1852. But the only Eichelbarger fam in LoganCo was Henry who had no dau named Liz or Phoebe. John B Patrick, father of Phoebe Patrick. is found in the 1840 LoganCo census with dau of Phoebe's age. In 1850 John and wife appear to both be dead and P E Patrick, female, age 12 is living with the Jesse Williams family. Phoebe's DC lists her as Phoebe Elizabeth, IDs her father as John B, husband as Abel T. So Phoebe Patrick can be documented as a wife of Abel. But Liz Eichelbarger cannot. Rushsylvania Cem on FAG shows an Elizabeth Hatcher buried there, bn 1838, no death date. I've requested a photo for this tombstone along with Abel's. And the beat goes on...........! Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Good morning! I am looking for anyone who has proof of Abel Thomas Hatcher's wives who are supposedly 1) Elizabeth Jane Eichelbarger and 2) Phoebe Elizabeth Patrick What proof of their last names and marriage dates exists. Our file shows their birth dates to be exactly one day apart and I'm beginning to wonder if there was only one wife - Miss Patrick. Thanks!! Nel

If this one comes through all screwy, I give up....Winnette 1920;Census Place: Mercer, Loudoun, Virginia; Roll T625_1893; Page: 4B; Enumeration District: 72; Image: 412. Household Members: Name Age Linzer Hatcher 32 Mary Hatcher 42 Ellis Hatcher 14 Linzer Hatcher 12 Wilmer Hatcher 9 Louise Hatcher 8 Grace Hatcher 6 Floyd Hatcher 3 2/12 Henry E Hatcher 2 5/12 http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=Wilmer&gsln=Hatcher&_81004010=1909&_81004030=1976&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&h=100994419&recoff=1+2&db=1920usfedcen&indiv=1U.S.World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946Name:Wilmer HatcherBirth Year:1909Race: Negro, citizen (Black)Nativity State or Country:VirginiaState of Residence:VirginiaEnlistment Date:13 Dec 1943Enlistment State:VirginiaEnlistment City:RichmondBranch:No branch assignmentBranch Code:No branch assignmentGrade:PrivateGrade Code:PrivateTerm of Enlistment:Enlistment for the duration of the War or otheremergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the Presidentorotherwise according to lawComponent:Selectees (Enlisted Men)Source:Civil LifeEducation:Grammar schoolCivil Occupation:Semiskilled chauffeurs and drivers, bus, taxi, truck, andtractorMarital Status:MarriedHeight:00Weight:000Social Security Death IndexName: Wilmer HatcherSSN: 230-09-6442Last Residence: 25401! Martinsburg, Berkeley, West Virginia, UnitedStatesof AmericaBorn: 15 Apr 1909Last Benefit: 22117 Middleburg, Loudoun, Virginia, United States ofAmericaDied: Nov 1976State (Year) SSN issued: Virginia (Before 1951)----- --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 091119-2, 11/19/2009 Tested on: 11/19/2009 8:37:20 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

This might help.....Winnette 1920;Census Place: Mercer, Loudoun, Virginia; Roll T625_1893; Page: 4B; Enumeration District: 72; Image: 412. Household Members: Name Age Linzer Hatcher 32 Mary Hatcher 42 Ellis Hatcher 14 Linzer Hatcher 12 Wilmer Hatcher 9 Louise Hatcher 8 Grace Hatcher 6 Floyd Hatcher 3 2/12 Henry E Hatcher 2 5/12 http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=Wilmer&gsln=Hatcher&_81004010=1909&_81004030=1976&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&h=100994419&recoff=1+2&db=1920usfedcen&indiv=1U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946Name:Wilmer HatcherBirth Year:1909Race:Negro, citizen (Black)Nativity State or Country:VirginiaState of Residence:VirginiaEnlistment Date:13 Dec 1943Enlistment State:VirginiaEnlistment City:RichmondBranch:No branch assignmentBranch Code:No branch assignmentGrade:PrivateGrade Code:PrivateTerm of Enlistment:Enlistment for the duration of the War or otheremergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President orotherwise according to lawComponent:Selectees (Enlisted Men)Source:Civil LifeEducation:Grammar schoolCivil Occupation:Semiskilled chauffeurs and drivers, bus, taxi, truck, andtractorMarital Status:MarriedHeight:00Weight:000Social Security Death IndexName: Wilmer HatcherSSN: 230-09-6442Last Residence: 2540! 1 Martinsburg, Berkeley, West Virginia, United Statesof AmericaBorn: 15 Apr 1909Last Benefit: 22117 Middleburg, Loudoun, Virginia, United States ofAmericaDied: Nov 1976State (Year) SSN issued: Virginia (Before 1951)----- Original Message -----From: "nelhatch" <[email protected]>To: <[email protected]>Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:09 PMSubject: Re: [HATCHER] WILMER HATCHER 1908-1976>> HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com> HALL DNA project:http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm> "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by abrutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld>> "I wasn't able to find this Wilmer Hatcher at hatcherfamilyassn.comeither.">> And I've never found this dude on a census either.....which is why he'snot on our files.>> Nel>> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subjec! t and the body of the message --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 091119-2, 11/19/2009 Tested on: 11/19/2009 8:12:34 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld My bad, Winnette! Did not associate LoudounCo with anything but the Quakers and searched only for white Hatchers named Wil* Thanks! Nel