Nel, Judy, et al, Joseph Hatcher is my great uncle, brother of my grandfather Robert P. Hatcher. He operated a dry goods store and a funeral home business for many years in Dunn, NC; hence the link to product endorsements in 1912 ads. Further info on Joseph on TNG site record # 12444, page 249. Charles R. Price -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Judith Bowen Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Why some of the Hatchers may never be found Nel, I started with Hatchers in Ohio newspapers. Only got the first 10 done. Here is a short story on what I found. Prof John Bell Hatcher: He was an explorer in Patagonia for rare fossils. He was from Princeton and a graduate of Yale. Marietta Daily Leader, Dec. 30, 1898. Elijah Hatcher: He wooed Mary McCamey for 60 yrs. Longest wooing Tennessee has ever seen. He is 82 and Mary is two years his junior. They got married near Maryland. They got married because, they wanted to before they die. Marietta Daily Leader, Nov. 8, 1900. William R Hatcher: Wrote a letter to the editor. Stated that he is 78, raised in Eastern Ohio by Campbellite parents. ( What is a Campbellite)? Blue-grass Blade (Lexington, KY) Tom Hatcher: Tom was one of 4 men who swopped their property in Pikeville, Ky. The paper asked if their wifes were nexted to be swopped. Mahoning Co. May 6, 1910. John Hatcher: Salem, Ohio, leased a farm and the owner decided not to lease to John after he had went out and purchased stock and tools. Mahoning Co. May 26, 1911. Joseph Hatcher: Selma, N.C., his name appeared in three ads endorsing a liniment or ointment. Mahoning Co. Nov. 29, 1912. I did not find any of these men on Hathcer site. Judy B -----Original message----- From: "nelhatch" [email protected] Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:30:49 -0500 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Why some of the Hatchers may never be found > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld > > Great find, Cecil! > > Nice to find a real nugget after wading thru all those "hatcheries." > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Alan, I had just never heard of the word Campbellite before. Judy B

Nel, I started with Hatchers in Ohio newspapers. Only got the first 10 done. Here is a short story on what I found. Prof John Bell Hatcher: He was an explorer in Patagonia for rare fossils. He was from Princeton and a graduate of Yale. Marietta Daily Leader, Dec. 30, 1898. Elijah Hatcher: He wooed Mary McCamey for 60 yrs. Longest wooing Tennessee has ever seen. He is 82 and Mary is two years his junior. They got married near Maryland. They got married because, they wanted to before they die. Marietta Daily Leader, Nov. 8, 1900. William R Hatcher: Wrote a letter to the editor. Stated that he is 78, raised in Eastern Ohio by Campbellite parents. ( What is a Campbellite)? Blue-grass Blade (Lexington, KY) Tom Hatcher: Tom was one of 4 men who swopped their property in Pikeville, Ky. The paper asked if their wifes were nexted to be swopped. Mahoning Co. May 6, 1910. John Hatcher: Salem, Ohio, leased a farm and the owner decided not to lease to John after he had went out and purchased stock and tools. Mahoning Co. May 26, 1911. Joseph Hatcher: Selma, N.C., his name appeared in three ads endorsing a liniment or ointment. Mahoning Co. Nov. 29, 1912. I did not find any of these men on Hathcer site. Judy B -----Original message----- From: "nelhatch" [email protected] Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:30:49 -0500 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Why some of the Hatchers may never be found > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld > > Great find, Cecil! > > Nice to find a real nugget after wading thru all those "hatcheries." > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Thanks, Judy and Alan. And now..... Just for giggles for those of you trolling the news items in the Lof C, let's see if you can find the article for the following...... Title Missouri Gazette. July 20, 1816, Page 3, Column 2. Subject Hatcher, Samuel Description Takes up stray horse in St. Louis County. If that date is too early for the LofC, try this one...... Title Columbia Statesman August 4, 1876 Page 1, Section 3 Subject Hatcher, George N. Description -son of Congressman R. A. Hetcher found dead in Pemiscat County court house. Nel

A "Campbellite" refers to a member of the Restoration Movement in the early 1800's. Here's a detailed article about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restoration_Movement This is the historical roots of the modern Churches of Christ. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Judith Bowen <[email protected]> wrote: > William R Hatcher: Wrote a letter to the editor.  Stated that he is 78, raised in Eastern Ohio by Campbellite parents. ( What >                              is a Campbellite)? >                              Blue-grass Blade (Lexington, KY)

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Great find, Cecil! Nice to find a real nugget after wading thru all those "hatcheries." Nel

http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/getperson.php?personID=I40394&tree=WmTheIm Richmond (VA) Dispatch 01 May 1885, p. 1 A GRAVEYARD SUIT. AN INTERESTING DECISION. Case Where a Purchaser of Land Had Put a Hog-Pen on a Family Burial-Ground -- Damages Allowed. The only case decided by the Supreme Court on yesterday will be of much public interest, especially so to the country people throughout the State, for with them the old family graveyard is an institution, a familiar object to be seen on almost every farm in Virginia. This case was as follows: In August, 1872, Benjamin T. Benn came to Virginia from the State of Michigan and purchased in the county of Goochland a farm of 275 acres of land. There was on it at the time he purchased a graveyard of three quarters of an acre in extent, situated just in front of his house, and, though uninclosed[sic], was yet distinctly and visibly marked as such by the growth of cedars, locusts, and similar native woods; by periwinkle covering the ground, and by head- and foot-stones to the graves, and in one instance by a brick wall enclosing one of the graves. After acquiring possession he determined, it seems, to destroy it -- to "wipe it out" -- and accordingly he cut the trees down, had them grubbed up by the roots -- as likewise the bushes and undergrowth; he moved the stones, removed the bricks completely from around the walled grave (a corner or portion of which, it is true, had been knocked down by the falling of a tree in a storm), converted the spot into a hog-pen, and then afterwards had it ploughed and planted in crops. And afterwards refused to permit the interment there of a member of the family, whose body was carried there for that purpose from this city; even threatening to shoot anyone that would attempt to dig a grave there. In August, 1851, Ann Hatcher, the widow, and nine others, the children and devisees of Josiah Hatcher, deceased, sold and conveyed this farm to Mr. John T. Sublett, of this city, in the deed "reserving to the parties of the first part three fourths of an acre as a burying-ground for the family and their descendants." In 1852 John T. Sublett sold and conveyed the farm to David A. and Frank J. Hatcher, two of the nine devisees who had conveyed to him, with a similar reservation of the graveyard. Through them, after several alienations, but all without any reservation of the graveyard, the farm came to the hands of Benn. In 1882, soon after Benn's refusal of the interment of the body there, an action of ejectment was instituted against him for recovery of the graveyard and for damages for the waste and destruction committed by him by the devisees of Josiah Hatcher. This was tried and a verdict in their favor rendered for the premises and $500 damages at the April term of the Circuit Court, 1883, (Judge Wellford, of this city, sitting specially to try the case). From this decision Benn took an appeal. The Supreme Court, in an opinion delivered by Lewis, president, Fauntleroy J., dissenting, affirmed the decision of the lower court. TITLE. It sustained the title of the Hatchers to the graveyard on two grounds: First, that there had been an appropriation -- a dedication -- of this particular spot as a burying-ground long before Mr. Josiah Hatcher's death, and that while a dedication, in its technical, legal sense, is the appropriation of land to some public purpose, such as a highway or a common, yet is is effectual, it seems, when it is an appropriation to some pious or Christian use. "It is not necessary that it should be by deed or in writing. It may be by act in pais; nor is it necessary that the fee should pass, for dedication has respect to the possession merely. And where property is thus set apart an estoppel arises which precludes the owner from revoking the dedication; for the law considers that it would be in violation of good faith, and in some instances even sacreligeous[sic], to reclaim at pleasure property which has been devoted to the use of the public or in furtherance of some charitable or pious object." Beatty vs. Kurtz. 2 Pet., 566; Cincinnati vs. White's lessee, 6 Id., 431; Hunter vs. Trustees of Sandy Hill, 6 Hill, 407; 3 Wash. on Real Prop., 459. And in the second place, the opinion goes on to show that this case "stands on even higher ground. It stands on the solemn agreement of the parties themselves that the lot in question should not only be excepted out of the deed to Sublett, but that it should be devoted in the future, as it had been in the past, to the use of the family as a place of burial for its dead. And the appropriation thus made was not for the separate use of the individuals composing the family at the time, but for the family as a whole and their descendants, and could not be relinquished or assigned, in whole or in part, except by the concurrent act of all for whose benefit it was intended. It follows therefore, that no title to the premises in controversy was acquired by any of the conveyances subsequent to the deed to Sublett." DAMAGES. The court fixes the measure of damages in the case to what it would cost to restore the premises to the condition in which they were before the destruction. In this form of action -- it was an ejectment suit -- the idea of punitive damages would not be allowed, whatsoever might be proper in any other form of action. It sustained the instruction given by the lower court, and under the evidence as certified, and which was not contradictory, it could not say that the damages were excessive. Messrs. B. H. Nash and Jackson Guy were counsel for the Hatchers in this case, and Judge A. K. Leake and Mr. W. B. Pettit for Benn.

Fort Bend Herald > Monday February 1, 2010 > Rosenberg - Richmond, TX. Robert Hatcher Funeral services for Robert J Hatcher, 72 of Brookshire, are pending with Garmany & Carden Funeral Directors, Inc., 1201 fourth St. In Rosenberg,  281-342-4671.  Mr Hatcher passed away Saturday, Jan. 30, 2010, at Memorial Hermann Katy Hospital.  Updated information and Online Guest Book will be available at  www.garmanycarden.com . BB

This Oscar is a new one for me. Since I'm from the Meridian area, I'll check it out. There were two Hatchers murdered near the little town of Marion (next door to Meridian). They were descendants of Henry Jefferson Hatcher. I wish I had known these murders about 25 years ago, so I could have asked HJ's last descendants before they died. The Miazza-Woods office building was legendary for its demise. This building was triangular and six stories tall. It was also called the Flatiron Building. Over a period of years the upper floors burned (about one at a time). Insurance claims were paid. The floors were not rebuilt, just torn off and a new roof was added. Portions of the lower level still exist in downtown Meridian. Postcards sometimes show up on eBay. Greg Hatcher

Nel, Wow! What a great website! The very first thing I pulled up for PENICK was the Obit for my Great-grandfather, I. N. PENICK, in The Adair Co. News! It's midnight now and I have just gone through the first page of images and have found about a dozen references to various family members! Only 110 more pages to go. THANKS, NEL! No sleep for me this week..........ZZZZZZZZZ.......zzzzzzzz.......z....z...........z...............z...........z............... . . Martha Penick LAMKIN, KY ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <[email protected]> To: "HATCHERLIST" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:17 PM Subject: [HATCHER] While searching for something else.......... > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a > brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld > > I stumbled across a great new find - Library of Congress Newspaper search. > > http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/search/pages/ > > Very user friendly. Have fun! > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2659 - Release Date: 01/31/10 06:39:00

My grandfather ran "Hatcher's Egg and Dairy" in Tumwater, Washington. In a message dated 1/31/2010 9:43:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Yep, makes you re-live all those elementary school playground jokes. "How many eggs did you hatch today, Alan? Bwak, bwak, bwak." On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:38 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > A lot of those results are referencing hatchers as it pertains to > eggs.....just an fyi, Nel...: )

A lot of those results are referencing hatchers as it pertains to eggs.....just an fyi, Nel...: ) In a message dated 1/31/2010 10:35:11 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hey, only 1177 pages of results if you put just "Hatcher" in. At 10 results per page, that means Nel only has to go through 11,770 pages to finish it all. Heh. On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:17 AM, nelhatch <[email protected]> wrote: > I stumbled across a great new find - Library of Congress Newspaper search. > > http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/search/pages/ > > Very user friendly. Have fun! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yep, makes you re-live all those elementary school playground jokes. "How many eggs did you hatch today, Alan? Bwak, bwak, bwak." On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:38 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > A lot of those results are referencing hatchers as it pertains to > eggs.....just an fyi, Nel...:  )

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Hah! Better tell Alan about those hatcher "eggs." I'm still trying to wade thru Darleen's FAG msgs......! Nel

A photo has been added to this memorial: Enoch Arden Hatcher (1901 - 1972) - Lee Co Ga http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=33592156 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 100131-1, 01/31/2010 Tested on: 1/31/2010 9:15:55 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

Anyone know who this Oscar Hatcher is? He can be found in the 1900 census in Meriden, Lauderdale Co, MS born in January 1877 in GA with both parents born in GA. However, he is not found on the Hatcher family file. The Sun (New York, NY) 10 Feb 1908, p. 1 WIFE SEES FATAL PISTOL FIGHT. Stands By When Husband Is Killed In Quarrel About Her. MERIDEN, Miss., Feb. 9. -- In a pistol fight between Covert Taylor, a prominent contractor, and Oscar Hatcher, a farmer, begun in the corridor of the Miazza-Woods office building at 5 o'clock this evening, Hatcher received wounds from which he died a half hour later and Taylor received a wound in the hand and a scalp wound just above his right ear. Hatcher's wife was standing at his side during the fight, begging the men to desist. Hatcher fired four shots at Taylor in quick succession. Taylor fired only once in the building, the bullet striking Hatcher in the left breast, penetrating the lung and coming out at the back. Hatcher ran out through the storm doors followed by Taylor. When he turned into a cigar store Taylor fired twice, one bullet entering Hatcher's neck and the other ploughing its way through his cheek and passing through the leg of James Hamm, a young man standing a short distance away. Hatcher ran to a drug store and fell on his face. He was hurried to a hospital, where he died within fifteen minutes. Taylor was locked up in the county jail. The trouble was about Hatcher's wife. From: Cecil Larsen Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 2:48 PM To: nelhatch Subject: Question 1: Who is this Oscar Hatcher? http://search.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7602&iid=004119880_00536&fn=Oscar&ln=Hatcher&st=r&ssrc=&pid=27976249

Bisbee daily review. (Bisbee, Ariz.) 1901-1971, February 13, 1910, Image 10 http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn84024827/1910-02-13/ed-1/seq-10/ I'm reasonably sure that this is his record in our Hatcher file, but could be wrong: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/getperson.php?personID=I1982&tree=WmTheIm (Douglas International ) At the nursery of W. H. Hatcher at the corner of Green street and D avenue In this city has been received one of the finest lot of trees, vines and shrubbery ever brought to Doug las, though in the past Mr. Hatcher has received many important ship ments of the kind. The shipment this morning came from Huntsville, Alabama, and every tree and vine arrived in perfect con dition. Mr. Hatcher declaring that In this respect the shipment was the most satisfactory ever received from any nursery. The shipment included Carolina poplars, Lombardy poplars, Umbrel la China trees. Black Walnuts, Weep ing Mulberries. California Privet, Amoor River Privet, north and south; there were also a large variety of roses, some magnolias and acasias, and many varieties of fruit trees, shrubbery bushes and plants. All these goods were being carefully un packed this morning and put into prepared ground ready for delivery to purchasers. During the past fall and winter Mr. Hatcher has added two lots to his nursery and has planted on them 289 rose bushes of carefully selected varieties. Each variety was planted in a separate row and a plat made of the rose farm for future reference as to the success of the several varie ties. Mr. Hatcher maintains a hot house un which he is cultivating many rare house plants and flowers. Mr Hatcher has been engaged In the nursery business in this city for many years and has studied the soil and conditions so as to be able to judge of the best trees and plants for the climate. As a landscape gar dener he ranks with the very best and many or the beautiful grounds in Douglas and Bisbee are the result of his knowledge and handiwork.

I've been through the first 10 already. :) Next cousin up! On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:55 PM, nelhatch <[email protected]> wrote: > I've got a great idea! You round up 10 volunteers and all you have to do is go thru 1,177 news items each. > > Fantastic plan, eh wot??? :-) > > Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Ya gotta' dig 'em out of their caves, Alan. Those Hatcher bears are all hibernating! Nel

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn94056415/1907-09-20/ed-1/seq-4/ The McCook tribune (McCook, Neb.) 1886-1936, September 20, 1907, Image 4 CLAUDIA B HATCHER CANDIDATE FOR COUNTY SUPERINTENDENT Claudia B Hatcher the daughter of Dick Hatcher of Fritsch precinct, was born in Illinois July 30, 1880. When one year old she moved with her parents to Eastern Nebraska and two years afterwards to Red Willow county where she has resided to the present time. Miss Hatcher received her education in the Indianola schools and graduated with the class of 1897. The two years following she taught the North Star school district No 13 and for the next three successive years she was employed in the intermediate department of the Indianola schools resigning the offer of the fourth term to pursue higher studies. The years of '03 and '04 Miss Hatcher attended the state university receiving credit for more than two years work and the highest recommendations from all departments in which she was registered. On her return from the University she was elected principal of the school at Minco, Ind. Ty., and last year was teacher of the 6th A and 7th B grades in the McCook schools being reemployed for the present year but resigning to accept the nomination for county superintendent. Miss Quick our present county superintendent in writing a recommendation for Miss Hatcher when making an application for a school says the following: "I have known Miss Hatcher personally for years and know her to be a Christian young woman careful in conduct neat in appearance and of a position to succeed in anything that underlakes to do She is a worker who realizes the value of effort in all that she does and who stops working onl when sho has accomplished tho task set for herself Miss Hatcher taught in Indianola for three years and her work was acceptable to all It has been the same in the other places where she has taught." Hatcher Family Assn record : http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/getperson.php?personID=I13911&tree=WmTheIm