Well, I have confidence in your skills. Y.H.D. On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:50 AM, nelhatch <[email protected]> wrote: > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a > brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld > > Not fantastic yet, Yvonne :-) > > Any time you start working on a theory and begin rearranging records and > people on your file, you run the risk of running head-on into new problems. > > I'm only part way thru this rearranging and have already run into new > problems and questions. > > The start of all this began with a 1690 patent on Proctor creek that ID's > Henry Hatcher as an adjacent owner. Both of our Henrys, the sons of Ben/Liz > and Henry/Lound, are either still minors in 1690 or just barely 21. There > have been no records found to indicate the estate of Henry/Lound contained > any real estate. But we do know John Greenhaugh gave Ben's sons land while > they were still minors c1675. From some of the records, it "appears" these > deeds were not registered until 1696. IF this is true, it doesn't explain > how it was known in 1690 that Henry owned this parcel of land. > > Maybe Henry, our Indian trader, was reported killed by Indians, his kids > get a guardian and his wife remarries. But, wah-lah! He ain't dead! He > escapes from his captors and returns (surprising a whole bunch of people) > and settles on Proctors creek. Would make for a great soap opera, ya think?? > > It ain't over til it's over :-) > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hey Miz Nelanie, Did you ever consider joining the FBI? You would have made a great agent! Hope all is well with you and Bruce. LOL, Scarlet ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Reporting on my major update.......... > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld > > Not fantastic yet, Yvonne :-) > > Any time you start working on a theory and begin rearranging records and people on your file, you run the risk of running head-on into new problems. > > I'm only part way thru this rearranging and have already run into new problems and questions. > > The start of all this began with a 1690 patent on Proctor creek that ID's Henry Hatcher as an adjacent owner. Both of our Henrys, the sons of Ben/Liz and Henry/Lound, are either still minors in 1690 or just barely 21. There have been no records found to indicate the estate of Henry/Lound contained any real estate. But we do know John Greenhaugh gave Ben's sons land while they were still minors c1675. From some of the records, it "appears" these deeds were not registered until 1696. IF this is true, it doesn't explain how it was known in 1690 that Henry owned this parcel of land. > > Maybe Henry, our Indian trader, was reported killed by Indians, his kids get a guardian and his wife remarries. But, wah-lah! He ain't dead! He escapes from his captors and returns (surprising a whole bunch of people) and settles on Proctors creek. Would make for a great soap opera, ya think?? > > It ain't over til it's over :-) > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Miz Scarlett, I'm afraid the closest I got to spy-hood was working for the Chgo Police Dept.....as a computer programmer. Don't think that counts, hey?? :-) And hoping all is well with you and Jim, too! Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Not fantastic yet, Yvonne :-) Any time you start working on a theory and begin rearranging records and people on your file, you run the risk of running head-on into new problems. I'm only part way thru this rearranging and have already run into new problems and questions. The start of all this began with a 1690 patent on Proctor creek that ID's Henry Hatcher as an adjacent owner. Both of our Henrys, the sons of Ben/Liz and Henry/Lound, are either still minors in 1690 or just barely 21. There have been no records found to indicate the estate of Henry/Lound contained any real estate. But we do know John Greenhaugh gave Ben's sons land while they were still minors c1675. From some of the records, it "appears" these deeds were not registered until 1696. IF this is true, it doesn't explain how it was known in 1690 that Henry owned this parcel of land. Maybe Henry, our Indian trader, was reported killed by Indians, his kids get a guardian and his wife remarries. But, wah-lah! He ain't dead! He escapes from his captors and returns (surprising a whole bunch of people) and settles on Proctors creek. Would make for a great soap opera, ya think?? It ain't over til it's over :-) Nel

WOW! Fantastic Detective Work Nel. Thank You, Y.H.D. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:13 PM, nelhatch <[email protected]> wrote: > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a > brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld > > Cuzins, > > I've come to some conclusions that will impact on a bunch of you so hope > you're sitting down. > > The story of the Henrys goes many years back and has been an arduous > process by several of us to reach the conclusions we did. Yet I've always > had nigglies about two facts that I could never explain. > > We had Ben/Greenhaugh with a son Henry whose birth year had been wrong for > decades. This Henry supposedly md Susanna Williamson. > > We had Henry/Lound with a son Henry who md Dorothy Hardaway. > > When it was proved that Ben's son was not born c1695 but closer to c1665, > we now had this very old man marrying Susanna, about 40 yrs younger than he. > In the beginning I believed Susanna's husband, Henry, was the son of the > older Henry whose wife was unknown. Still, it was always unclear when Henry > Sr died due to the lack of Sr-Jr being found in the records. I finally felt > that Henry Sr actually did marry Susanna as his 2nd wife. > > With the discovery that Ben and his sons probably lived on Proctors creek, > it has altered the landscape a good deal. > > What we had was the following: > > Henry/Anne Lound had son Henry Jr. > Henry Jr married Dorothy Hardaway and had son, Henry III. > Henry III married Margaret LNU. > > Ben/Greenhaugh had son Henry. > Henry married 1) unknown and 2) Susanna Williamson. > > But the Proctor Creek connections show very clearly that Henry owned land > in this area given him by his g-father, John Greenhaugh, and that Henry was > mentioned in a 1691 deed being an adjacent owner. > > A long time niggly I've had is the 1705 Henrico Rent Roll showing only ONE > Henry with 650A. This matches what is known about Henry of Proctor creek. > BUT! Where is Henry, son of Henry/Lound? Why is he not on this list? Does he > not own land in Henrico? Is he even living in Henrico? > > The second niggly, IF we had Henry, son of Ben, and Henry, son of Henry, > both living in Henrico and close in age, is the total absense of descriptive > titles other than in deeds dealing directly with Henry Sr and Jr. If Henry > #1 bought or sold land in Henrico, he would have to be ID'd as distinct from > Henry #2 by defining him as son of Henry or son of Ben. Nothing like this > has ever been found. > > That has led me to the conclusion that Henry, s/o Henry/Lound, died without > heirs!!! What we know is that after Henry's death, Anne remarried to Samuel > Moody and lived in Charles CityCo. Even tho Henry Lound was the guardian of > Henry/Anne's kids, that does not imply they lived with him. I believe those > young children were raised in CCCo and that sometime after 1696 and before > 1705 when Henry Lound was dismissed due to all kids being of age, young > Henry died. Henry did not appear on the 1705 CCCo Tax list and by that time, > one would expect him to have a wife, kids and land. NO! Not found. So with > this Henry NOT in Henrico and likely dead, it explains only 1 Henry on the > 1705 list and the absense in the records of any descriptive titles. > > I've been transferring records to align with this new theory and so far > what I'm seeing is finally beginning to make sense. One record in particular > caught my eye where Ben/Greenhaugh's sons are involved in a deed with Henry > who was assumed to be son of Henry/Lound. OK! Cousins dealing with cousins. > But the land involved and the witnesses went right back to Proctor's creek. > This now looks like brothers dealing with brothers. > > But I am a long way from finished with the transfer of records and there > are still many details to verify and perhaps questions to solve. > > The one thing that stands out from all this is that it appears NONE OF YOU > descend from Henry/Lound. You are all descendants of either Ben or Edward. > And that will be the last part of this process I will be working on - the > DNA results. That process, too, may solve a few nigglies when I realign test > results. > > And this all started with a msg from Shawn - it's all his fault :-) > > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Cuzins, I've come to some conclusions that will impact on a bunch of you so hope you're sitting down. The story of the Henrys goes many years back and has been an arduous process by several of us to reach the conclusions we did. Yet I've always had nigglies about two facts that I could never explain. We had Ben/Greenhaugh with a son Henry whose birth year had been wrong for decades. This Henry supposedly md Susanna Williamson. We had Henry/Lound with a son Henry who md Dorothy Hardaway. When it was proved that Ben's son was not born c1695 but closer to c1665, we now had this very old man marrying Susanna, about 40 yrs younger than he. In the beginning I believed Susanna's husband, Henry, was the son of the older Henry whose wife was unknown. Still, it was always unclear when Henry Sr died due to the lack of Sr-Jr being found in the records. I finally felt that Henry Sr actually did marry Susanna as his 2nd wife. With the discovery that Ben and his sons probably lived on Proctors creek, it has altered the landscape a good deal. What we had was the following: Henry/Anne Lound had son Henry Jr. Henry Jr married Dorothy Hardaway and had son, Henry III. Henry III married Margaret LNU. Ben/Greenhaugh had son Henry. Henry married 1) unknown and 2) Susanna Williamson. But the Proctor Creek connections show very clearly that Henry owned land in this area given him by his g-father, John Greenhaugh, and that Henry was mentioned in a 1691 deed being an adjacent owner. A long time niggly I've had is the 1705 Henrico Rent Roll showing only ONE Henry with 650A. This matches what is known about Henry of Proctor creek. BUT! Where is Henry, son of Henry/Lound? Why is he not on this list? Does he not own land in Henrico? Is he even living in Henrico? The second niggly, IF we had Henry, son of Ben, and Henry, son of Henry, both living in Henrico and close in age, is the total absense of descriptive titles other than in deeds dealing directly with Henry Sr and Jr. If Henry #1 bought or sold land in Henrico, he would have to be ID'd as distinct from Henry #2 by defining him as son of Henry or son of Ben. Nothing like this has ever been found. That has led me to the conclusion that Henry, s/o Henry/Lound, died without heirs!!! What we know is that after Henry's death, Anne remarried to Samuel Moody and lived in Charles CityCo. Even tho Henry Lound was the guardian of Henry/Anne's kids, that does not imply they lived with him. I believe those young children were raised in CCCo and that sometime after 1696 and before 1705 when Henry Lound was dismissed due to all kids being of age, young Henry died. Henry did not appear on the 1705 CCCo Tax list and by that time, one would expect him to have a wife, kids and land. NO! Not found. So with this Henry NOT in Henrico and likely dead, it explains only 1 Henry on the 1705 list and the absense in the records of any descriptive titles. I've been transferring records to align with this new theory and so far what I'm seeing is finally beginning to make sense. One record in particular caught my eye where Ben/Greenhaugh's sons are involved in a deed with Henry who was assumed to be son of Henry/Lound. OK! Cousins dealing with cousins. But the land involved and the witnesses went right back to Proctor's creek. This now looks like brothers dealing with brothers. But I am a long way from finished with the transfer of records and there are still many details to verify and perhaps questions to solve. The one thing that stands out from all this is that it appears NONE OF YOU descend from Henry/Lound. You are all descendants of either Ben or Edward. And that will be the last part of this process I will be working on - the DNA results. That process, too, may solve a few nigglies when I realign test results. And this all started with a msg from Shawn - it's all his fault :-) Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Hey Cuzins! I've just done some major reanalysis on Henry/Williamson and Henry/Hardaway and figured out where John Greenhaugh's land was located that he gave to his gsons Ben, John and Henry. The land was on Proctor's creek. I've done some reworking on Ben's page at http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/getperson.php?personID=I43717&tree=WmTheIm that includes a map at the bottom of the page showing where the land was. One important key was the name Thomas Holmes and a deed from Ben's son, William, that gives us the date when John Greenhaugh deeded this land to them. But I also believe this "MAY" mean that we have our 2 Henrys attached to the wrong parents. I "think" Ben's son married Dorothy Hardaway and Henry/Lound's son married Susanna Williamson. That's my work assignment for tomorrow but right now......my pillow is calling for me..........! Nel

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Done! Thanks, Winnette! Nel

Nel, this was on the Jax Co list this morning....Winnette Names in the News: 24 Oct 1930 Miss Nell HATCHER, 19, daughter of Mr. & Mrs. P G HATCHER of Quincy and niece of Mr. & Mrs. W E DENHAM, and Mr. Loyt BYNUM, 22, employed by Peoples Market, moved here about three years ago, will be married at Billroy's Show. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 100325-1, 03/25/2010 Tested on: 3/26/2010 8:42:00 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld BB, Here she is........ http://hatcherfamilyassn.com/getperson.php?personID=I40452&tree=WmTheIm But you did find a missing census! Thanks, BB! Nel

Hi Nel, I ran across this in the census and could not find it in Hatcher Family files. http://search.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid= 7163&path=Virginia.Floyd.Indian+Valley+and+Burks +Fork.16&sid=&gskw=&cr=1 1870 United States Federal Census Record Amanda Hatcher 48yrs Bob

This was posted on another list and thought it might be helpful.  Can't recall if there was discussion on this list, however, on some of the other's the suggestion was made to make a copy of your census before mailing in to put with your genealogy info.  If you want to leave your descendants census form information from any census year you might have missed, you can find the forms and questions for all the years at: (http://usa.ipums.org/usa/voliii/tEnumForm.shtml)  I'm pretty sure that 2000 was the first year that I was ever counted in the census, but then, 1970 and 1980 are still a bit fuzzy. Nancy

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Thanks Nel....Winnette ----- Original Message ----- From: "nelhatch" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [HATCHER] Georgia & Texas, E W "Pete" Hatcher, Jr > > HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com > HALL DNA project: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm > "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a > brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld > > Winnette, > > His full name is Eulie Walon Hatcher, Jr > > Thanks! > Nel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 100315-0, 03/15/2010 Tested on: 3/15/2010 7:46:02 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

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Can anyone tell me why the children of Charles W. Hatcher are living with the Robert Wilson family in Pope County AR in 1850? I see on the Hatcher family site and on the census that it appears their Mother died 1843-49, and that the family is spread out in different households in 1850. Then back together again in 1860 (Perry County), after Charles W. married to wife Virginia Davis. Surely there is some family relationship between the Wilsons (Robert Wilson born c1789 NC and Jane ___ Wilson born c 1795 TN, family came to ARK 1837 or so) and Charles W. Hatcher? Are they the parents of his first wife, and so the children's grandparents? Perhaps Robert Wilson's wife Jane ___ is an older sister of Charles Hatcher? Mere speculation, am hoping someone researching this family can help. Perry County to Pope County looks like quite a ways to send a 9 year old and an 8 year old, plus it involved a trip across the Arkansas River. Just seems like there must have been some good reason to send them there. Thanks, Cynthia Benua

HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Dale, And according to Beall researchers, the name can be found in records as Bell which can only compound the difficulties in sorting them out. Nel

FYI -- in most of the South Beall is pronounced Bell -- just thought you'd like to know.  It's not obvious. Dale Reed ________________________________ From: nelhatch <[email protected]> To: HATCHERLIST <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 10:23:01 PM Subject: [HATCHER] Mary Brady? or Mary Beall? HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Good Friday nite to all......... During some long ago discussions on Maj John and Mary, his wife, I had suggested that their 1st born child, born 1780 named Jeremiah B, may not have been Jeremiah Brady but may have been Jeremiah Beall, named after Maj John's commanding officer who died in battle. I should note that while the whole world shows his name as Brady, there has never been found evidence that was true. While googling around today, I've found a number of Beall recs that are of interest. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ga/county/taylor/rev/garevroster4.htm BEAL, JEREMIAH. Captain; killed in action. Entitled to bounty as refugee, per certificate of Gen. John Twiggs, 22nd March, 1784. (Petition of James Beal, an infant, heir to Jeremiah Beal, deceased, by Zephaniah Beal, his father and natural guardian, for 575 acres.) BEAL, ZEPHANIAH. Certificate of Gen. John Twiggs, 6th February, 1784. Entitled to 250 acres bounty. Prays for same in Washington Co., and appoints Hugh Magie to receive same on 15th January, 1784. The above site has even more Bealls in the same time frame, many with certs for WashingtonCo land. Excellent site for GA Rev War soldiers. I'm reading this as James, infant son of Zeph, being an heir of Jeremiah. Not sure how that works since it would seem that Zeph and not his son would be the heir. Also appears that Zeph was Jere's brother and not his father. Moving right along.........I also found the Long Creek Baptist church records. http://users.ticnet.com/shmartonak/gawalng.htm  This is the church John and Mary belonged to. There are 13 refs to Bealls as members of this church. While it appears the Bealls originally came from Md, I'm seeing very little on the GA Bealls who carry many of the same names, such as Zephaniah, found in MD. When I do find a few trees, there seems to be much confusion in making MD-GA connections and I see what looks like a missing gen. Too many Bealls dying in their 90s and many uncertain dates of birth. Many make ref to Capt. Jeremiah and claim he was born 1722. I don't think so. I suspect he was much closer to Maj John's age, bn 1757, and this is possibly an example of a missing gen. I think it's also possible Mary may have been Jeremiah's sister. I might also mention that the Offutt name appears to come from MD, too, and married into the Beall family. Offutt is another military name found in many of our GA military recs. The Bealls were all over Wilkes/Warren/Wilkinson Cos - the stomping grounds of Maj John. Sooooo! For any of you digging around in GA or SC recs, please keep an eye open for the Beal/Beel/Beall family in the timeframe 1750-1830. Nel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nel, I'm curious. Here in TX is chain stores BEAL. Wonder if these guys have any connection. Lois Brender Mar 12, 2010 09:23:20 PM, [email protected] wrote: HATCHER website: http://hatcherfamilyassn.com HALL DNA project: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nhatcher/hall/HDNAtest.htm "One of the tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a brutal gang of facts" - La Rochefoucauld Good Friday nite to all......... During some long ago discussions on Maj John and Mary, his wife, I had suggested that their 1st born child, born 1780 named Jeremiah B, may not have been Jeremiah Brady but may have been Jeremiah Beall, named after Maj John's commanding officer who died in battle. I should note that while the whole world shows his name as Brady, there has never been found evidence that was true. While googling around today, I've found a number of Beall recs that are of interest. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ga/county/taylor/rev/garevroster4.htm BEAL, JEREMIAH. Captain; killed in action. Entitled to bounty as refugee, per certificate of Gen. John Twiggs, 22nd March, 1784. (Petition of James Beal, an infant, heir to Jeremiah Beal, deceased, by Zephaniah Beal, his father and natural guardian, for 575 acres.) BEAL, ZEPHANIAH. Certificate of Gen. John Twiggs, 6th February, 1784. Entitled to 250 acres bounty. Prays for same in Washington Co., and appoints Hugh Magie to receive same on 15th January, 1784. The above site has even more Bealls in the same time frame, many with certs for WashingtonCo land. Excellent site for GA Rev War soldiers. I'm reading this as James, infant son of Zeph, being an heir of Jeremiah. Not sure how that works since it would seem that Zeph and not his son would be the heir. Also appears that Zeph was Jere's brother and not his father. Moving right along.........I also found the Long Creek Baptist church records. http://users.ticnet.com/shmartonak/gawalng.htm This is the church John and Mary belonged to. There are 13 refs to Bealls as members of this church. While it appears the Bealls originally came from Md, I'm seeing very little on the GA Bealls who carry many of the same names, such as Zephaniah, found in MD. When I do find a few trees, there seems to be much confusion in making MD-GA connections and I see what looks like a missing gen. Too many Bealls dying in their 90s and many uncertain dates of birth. Many make ref to Capt. Jeremiah and claim he was born 1722. I don't think so. I suspect he was much closer to Maj John's age, bn 1757, and this is possibly an example of a missing gen. I think it's also possible Mary may have been Jeremiah's sister. I might also mention that the Offutt name appears to come from MD, too, and married into the Beall family. Offutt is another military name found in many of our GA military recs. The Bealls were all over Wilkes/Warren/Wilkinson Cos - the stomping grounds of Maj John. Sooooo! For any of you digging around in GA or SC recs, please keep an eye open for the Beal/Beel/Beall family in the timeframe 1750-1830. Nel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message