While searching for my "own" Joel Harvey b. 1779 in Westminster, Worcester Co., MA, I have managed to gather enough information about this fellow to present on-line with the hope that we can place him in one of our HARVEY lines. Here is what I have found thus far : Joel A. HARVEY b. 1838 in prob. Herkimer Co., NY. The birth year of 1838 is supported by Joel's biography as found in Memorial & Biographical History of Northern California - 1891 [I will post this biography when the Rootsweb system is accessible again ] and by the 1850 Federal Census which lists Joel's parents and siblings as follows : (LDS Film # 0017089 for 1850 Census - Town of Herkimer, Herkimer County, New York; Page 6/33 Dwell/Family = 214/223) Ira Harvey age 45 Male Farmer $6000 real estate value b. New York Malincia? Harvey age 41 Female b. New York Hellen Harvey age 19 Female b. New York Amanda Harvey age 17 Female b. New York Joel Harvey age 12 Male b. New York Norman? Harvey age 6 Male b. New York Gasary? Harvey age 2 Male b. New York Polly Harvey age 77 Female b. New York (ironically, a majority of the 1850 census information found on the film was beautifully clear with precise penmanship except for the work of the enumerator who did this portion - his spelling and penmanship were close to unreadable for some names - hopefully they will provide some clues for the correct people/spellings) 1860 Census HARVEY, Joel UT , Carson Co. , Carson Valley Pg 171 [before Nevada state established] 1870 Census HARVEY, J. A. CA , Solano Co. , Vallejo Pg 78 (probably will be found in 1880 and 1890 records as well --- since Joel A. did not show up in the California Death Index which began in July?, 1905 I believe he had died before then.) Highlights of the above mentioned biography are as follows : Joel A. HARVEY born in Herkimer County NY in 1838, came to CA overland in 1859. He lived in Placerville [El Dorado Co.,] and Vallejo [Solano Co.] Married Almeda L. HUBBARD in 1862 in CA. She was a native of Canada and daughter of Tily and Hulda (PARISH) HUBBARD of VT and NY who had left Michigan in 1849 for CA. Joel and Almeda had six children: Joel H., Amanda L. (Mrs. T. M. DOYLE), May A., Inez A., Blanch(e) L. and Maud F. They lived in Vallejo where Joel was elected County Clerk for Solano County and alternatively practiced law. He lived a quite interesting and diverse life, all in all. Joel H. HARVEY, son of Joel A. and Almeda, was found listed in the Calif. Death Index as being age 53 when he died April 17, 1918 which would place his birth year as about 1865. He was Deputy County Clerk for Solano County ca. 1891. I am hoping this will be enough information to begin adding Joel and his folks into one of the William b. 1614 or Thomas b. 1617 HARVEY lines of ENG >MA>NY. Let me hear from you! Bill Harvey wlh@foothill.net