Nope, I am not bored. I am learning some history while you guys sort out the what and why of where John was born. I have a family tradition of coming down through that line, but I have always doubted it, and have never seen any reason to think I was wrong. I read biography of the dear lady that was likely the one that started the tradition in my own line, and it re-enforced my idea it just ain't so... However, as I said, I amlearning some history. Carol.