My HART line started out in Leic. England. Some sailed for Canada, some to New Zealand, some to Australia and a couple to New York State USA. I have Samuel married Sarah GLOVER (England,----Leic., Notts) some of their children are John baptized 1807 --my brick wall Anthony married Frances JACKSON --came to Canada their son Wm Samuel married Gertrude COOK(e) in Canada and went to Waipu, New Zealand. (1883) one other son John Thomas is my ggrandfather. William m Harriett JACKSON sister to Frances Prestwold Daughter Mary m William ADKIN Saxelby Son Thomas m Harriett SHIPMAN then Lucy CROSS Then future generations migrated to USA Carol (tweetybird) Home page:<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/> Visit my home page for "Home Children" information and other "world wide" links plus various passenger lists. Searching : Hart, Haslip, Jackson, Stevens, Little, Budge, Chipman, Welch, Russell, Johns & Glover ----- Original Message ----- From: <FishNSuth@aol.com> To: <HART-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:08 AM Subject: [HART-L] HARTS in Canada In a message dated 11/20/2003 5:03:42 AM Central Standard Time, HART-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: X-Message: #1 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:04:41 -0500 From: "Cush and Karen Anthony" <cushkaren@gwi.net> To: HART-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <004201c3aeb6$d86cdd80$e891c3d8@cushkaren> Subject: [HART-L] Re: HART / HARTE- IRL Surnames List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I don't think there is a connection with my Harts, but, who knows? maybe there is. This is what I know of my forebears: Samuel Hart (b. c. 1815 in Ireland) married Rebecca Kelly (b. c. 1809?) in Ireland, probably Co. Cavan. Rebecca's parents were James Kelly and Jane ?. They had 4 daughters. Her siblings were: 1-Anna Bella or Isabella Kelly, b. about 1800. She married John Caughey on 17 Jan 1828, son of Nicholas Caughey. He was born about 1800 in Ballyshiel, County Armagh, Ireland. He died 25 Nov 1871. 2-Jane Kelly, b. 1800 (?), married David Jeffrey and she was married in 1831. 3-Mary Kelly, b ?, married James McHenry on 23 April 1830 4. Rebecca Kelly married Samuel Hart on 15 Mar 1840. These two are my forebears. They emigrated to Canada It's likely that Samuel Hart was from Co. Cavan, Ireland, and it's possible that Rebecca Kelly might have been from Co. Armagh in Ireland, or it could be she was also from Co. Cavan. Some of Rebecca (Kelly) Hart's relatives also emigrated to Canada. Some of Samuel's brothers and sisters also emigrated, not only to Canada but also to the US, Australia and New Zealand.died before 1839. Some of Rebecca (Kelly) Hart's relatives also emigrated to Canada. Some of Samuel's brothers and sisters also emigrated, not only to Canada but also to the US, Australia and New Zealand. Samuel apparently had six brothers and sisters - John, Martha, James, Nancy, Maurice, and Jane - as well as a half-brother, Robert, and a half-sister, Violet. Samuel and Rebecca's first son was named Maurice (or Morris?), born in Canada, probably named after Samuel's brother back in Ireland, and their other sons were named James, Samuel and John. Their daughters were named Martha Jane, Agnys ("Nancy"), and Anna Bella. It seems that Anna Bella might have been named for her mother Rebecca's eldest sister back in Ireland. Maurice married in Canada and his sons were named Samuel, David Lorenzo, Charles Merrill, Eli Maurice, and Archibald Arthur. His daughters were named Margaret, Ella, Elizabeth Rubena, and Agnes. Eli was my grandfather. Elderly folks remembered Co. Cavan as our forebears' home county. Other memories say "Belfast." So it sounds like they were from either what we now call Northern Ireland, or, since the Cavan name seems a strong memory, likely in the area of Ireland just south of Northern Ireland. My father always said he was "Scots-Irish." One of Maurice (Morris)' sons was Archibald Arthur Hart. He apparently had a serious falling out with Maurice Hart, his father. Whatever it was, Archibald took it seriously enough to move to the States and assume another name. Maurice was, from all reports, a rigidly religious man and was not very tolerant at all. I don't really know if Samuel and Rebecca were protestant or not -- some folks have told me the children's names appear to be protestant, but who knows. Karen Hart Anthony Falmouth, Maine Hello Karen. Thought I would respond since there seems to be some similarities between the HART branch that I am researching and the one you are researching. My Harts came from Canada and moved to Michigan in the mid-1800s. As far as I can tell, John Hart, my ggggrandfather, was born in New Brunswick and it appears this line was in the U. S. originally since there is some information that ties this branch to John Hart, the signer of the Declaration of Indepedence. What I have been told (undocumented) is that my people went to Nova Scotia/New Brunswick because they were Loyalists during the Revolutionary War. The similarities of the chosen first names and the location Canada makes me wonder if there is a link. Here is another site I found and corresponded with the sources and am now convinced that these people are my line: Jonathan and Jemina Hartt My gggrandmother, Sarah Elizabeth Hart, was alive until the late 1920s and my grandfather knew her. Let me know if any of this seems to line up for you. Kathryn --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 11/21/03