Dear listers, I'm having trouble locating a copy of the Hart family crest and wondered if anyone on here could tell me where i can see a copy of it online. I was also wondering if there is more then one Hart Family crest, maybe for each country? Are there any listers researching the Harts of New Zealand, Lancashire (Salford, Manchester) or Staffordshire?? Regards, Kate Hart Auckland New Zealand Currently searching for: Harts of Coromandel and Thames NZ Harts of Salford, Lancs. Harts of Haughton and Seighford, Staffs Owens of Hulme, Lancs Owens of Bangor, North Wales Toveys of London Beech of Onehunga, NZ A never-ending supply of chocolate tim tams World Peace (not in that order of course) _________________________________________________________________ Surf the net and talk on the phone with Xtra JetStream @ http://xtra.co.nz/jetstream

Go to www.genealogyweb.com/coatofarms.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "K E Hart" <je_suis_prest_nz@hotmail.com> To: <HART-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 1:08 AM Subject: [HART-L] Hart family crest > > > Dear listers, > > I'm having trouble locating a copy of the Hart family crest and wondered if > anyone on here could tell me where i can see a copy of it online. > > I was also wondering if there is more then one Hart Family crest, maybe for > each country? > > Are there any listers researching the Harts of New Zealand, Lancashire > (Salford, Manchester) or Staffordshire?? > > > Regards, > Kate Hart > Auckland > New Zealand > > Currently searching for: > Harts of Coromandel and Thames NZ > Harts of Salford, Lancs. > Harts of Haughton and Seighford, Staffs > Owens of Hulme, Lancs > Owens of Bangor, North Wales > Toveys of London > Beech of Onehunga, NZ > A never-ending supply of chocolate tim tams > World Peace > > (not in that order of course) > > _________________________________________________________________ > Surf the net and talk on the phone with Xtra JetStream @ > http://xtra.co.nz/jetstream >

Dear Kate, By "crest" I suppose that you mean "coat-of-arms" of which a crest is a component. Coats-of arms were/are granted to individuals, not to families. They were/are inherited by the owner's eldest son. The rest is fiction. But you will always find someone willing to sell you a "family" coat of arms, even if your name is Johnson. Rockne Hart Johnson At 01:30 AM 12/26/2004, Bill wrote: >Go to www.genealogyweb.com/coatofarms.htm >----- Original Message ----- >From: "K E Hart" <je_suis_prest_nz@hotmail.com> >To: <HART-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 1:08 AM >Subject: [HART-L] Hart family crest > > > > > > > > Dear listers, > > > > I'm having trouble locating a copy of the Hart family crest and wondered >if > > anyone on here could tell me where i can see a copy of it online. > > > > I was also wondering if there is more then one Hart Family crest, maybe >for > > each country? > > > > Are there any listers researching the Harts of New Zealand, Lancashire > > (Salford, Manchester) or Staffordshire?? > > > > > > Regards, > > Kate Hart > > Auckland > > New Zealand > > > > Currently searching for: > > Harts of Coromandel and Thames NZ > > Harts of Salford, Lancs. > > Harts of Haughton and Seighford, Staffs > > Owens of Hulme, Lancs > > Owens of Bangor, North Wales > > Toveys of London > > Beech of Onehunga, NZ > > A never-ending supply of chocolate tim tams > > World Peace > > > > (not in that order of course) > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Surf the net and talk on the phone with Xtra JetStream @ > > http://xtra.co.nz/jetstream > >

Be aware that many family crests have been created just for sales. My surname is usually shown as English with a crest that is "hundreds of years old." In reality, my surname is a mutation of the original Dutch surname Van Kouwenhoven (meaning "from Kouwenhoven"), which was adopted in the 1600's in the "New World." The heraldry on the website previously given has started saying that Crownover is of Netherlands origin, but use the same coat of arms that it did when it was "English." The majority of "Van Kouwenhoven" descendants became Conovers. The Heraldry site says nothing of Conovers being anything except of English in origin. This is a long way of saying that there are "smoke and mirrors" in heraldry. Jim Crownover- CA -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release Date: 12/26/04