Hello Bill, Out of curiosity, I tried to find your Hart family, and succeeded somewhat. Here's what I found (briefly): In 1910 the families were in Vernon Co., WI. Julius and Della were there with two children, and Frank and Elmer were there with their mother Helen, age 68. In 1880, the family was in Vernon Co., WI also, headed by Orange Hart and wife Helen. The children were Frank, Frederick, Julius, Ardo (Otto?), and Orange's brother in law Howard Pelizy, age 40 born VT (Helen's brother?). In 1870, the family was in Rutland Co., VT. Orange was listed as 34, b VT, wife Maria was 28, b VT, and two children Elmer 5 and Emma born Nov 1869. Helen and Maria might be the same person. Finding the family in 1900 will solve that, as it will show how many children the woman has had, and how many are still living. I hope you get some more leads with this information. Best wishes, Judith http://home1.gte.net/judithaw/index.htm