I am fairly new to this list and trust that my request is the sort the list supports. Please let me know, if you can, who James and Spicey Hart's parents were and where they can be found in the U. S. Census. James was born c1780 and died c1844. Spicey was born c1783 and died October 10, 1860 in Gilmer, Upsher Co, Texas. She is buried in one of the cemeteries near Gilmer. 1880 census records of their grown children in Texas indicate that James was born in Virginia and Spicey (Lawhon, aka Lawhorn, Laugharne, etc.) was born in North Carolina. Some descendants claim they were born in Ireland and Scotland, respectively, that they were married in Chatham Co., North Carolina, and that James died in Kemper Co., Mississsippi. I have yet to see proof of these claims. There have also been suggestions that James died in Marshall Co., TN, and that Spicey and her son, George Washington Hart, went to Mississippi after his death for about 4 years before migrating on to NE Texas, Upshur County where an older son, William H. Hart, had established himself after having been in Marshall Co. TN, with his father and father-in-law or brother-in-law (James Hart, Wm. Lawhon, Joel Lawhon, and Wm. H. Hart all appear in Marshall Co. Court Records in the late 1830s). Since quite a number of families mirgrated from Chatham Co., NC, to TN, especially to the Maury and Marshall County areas, I suspect that James' parents may well have lived in Chatham Co. Indeed, they may have migrated from VA to NC when James was still a young boy. There is a will of a John Hart, probated c1848, which lists a son James, but does not give the date of birth of the son. Some of the daugherters listed married men whose surnames show up in the same TN area. One of Spicey and John's children, a daughter, married a Tucker, with whom Spicey is living in Upshur County according to one of the later census records I perused. I found a Tucker living near a Hart in early Chatham Co., census records, but this is not proof enough! If anyone can help, please do so! Especially if you know which Harts might have migrated from Virginia to NC after 1780, especially to to Chatham Co. area. Many thanks, Gayle Hudgens aghudgens@earthlink.net