Betty: 1. Are you related to John Hart the Signer? 2; Where in CA do you live? Jack Willoughby, Descendant of the Signer in Roseville, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Patterson" <bettypatterson@sbcglobal.net> To: <HART-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 7:26 PM Subject: [HART-L] Hart family Assoc. & Newsletter > Many years ago I subscribed to the Hart Family Association newsletter. Is > it still operating and if so, how can I contact them to join? TIA, Betty in Calif. > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 4/10/2003

Many years ago I subscribed to the Hart Family Association newsletter. Is it still operating and if so, how can I contact them to join? TIA, Betty in Calif.

hi im looking for anyone researching the Hart/Harte families from main -a-dieu and may have migrated to glace bay in 1920 David Harte/Hart wife was Sarah Elizabeth Macleod or Macdonald (states dif.names) she was previously married we dont know which is her maiden name though)lived in glace bay ,and apparently died in 1929 his oldest know son b.1992 in glace bay moved to halifax in late 1930sthen to Pictou county .willing to share what i have but it is not much just from their children upto present.tks andrea _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Dear Listers, I am wondering if anyone can expound on the list of people below. Mary Hart 1870 Whitechapel London UK. Eliza Hart 1875 “ “ “ Zalig Hart 1876 “ “ “ Marks [ Morris ] Hart 1879 Whitechapel, London, UK. Heres what we know, all belong to the one family. Parents, Daniel [ 1850 ] and Elizabeth Hart [ 1852 ]. Daniel was one of 6 children, Moses [ 1846 ], and Betsy [ 1847 ] then Daniel and Benjamin [1851], Rossetta [1853], Zuesman [1855 ], Lipman [1856 ]. Daniel’s parents were Zalig Hart [ 1818 ] and Mary Hannah Joel [ 1820 ]. Zaligs parents were Moses Hart [ death 1884 ]. Just to save you some time we are aware of Benjamin’s line leading up to today. If you can help me build on to any of the family I would be delighted. Very best regards from Australia, Ray

Hello All, Interested in finding the parents of Ada HART. Ada was born in Fulton County, NY about 1812. She married Joel BROWN about 1832. They had a son Jeremiah who was born in 1833 in Fulton County. Ada died in 1838 in Fulton County. She was buried in North Broadalbin Cemetery and later moved to Union Mills Cemetery when that the Sacandaga Lake was built. There are no dates on her stone. Name is Ade HART BROWN. Does anyone have any information about Ada Hart? Richard >From the Shores of Grand Traverse Bay

Does anyone on this list know anything about a Charity HART b. abt. 1770, married Joseph R. Graham b. Sept. 20, 1766 in Virginia? They probably married around 1798 in Virginia and supposedly had 14 children. They later moved to Arkansas where I believe Charity died. I would be more than happy to share information. Thanks, Janet Graham Theberge

In my original message, I listed one of the children of Edwin and Eliza HART as : 5. Joseph S HART born 1838 Clarke Co., VA. Married 1857 in Loudoun Co., VA Rachel Ann MORRISON. Rachel was born 1835 in Clarke Co., VA and died 1877 in Texas - probably Van Zandt Co; she was the daughter of Edward MORRISON (2nd husband of Frances Hart) by bis first wife, Flora WHITE. Joseph, rachel and family eventually moved to Van Zandt Co., TX. Their 5 children are: Joseph E, Rosa Belle, Thomas Roper, Julia Dora and Alice. I now believe that Joseph may have remarried after Rachel died. In the 1880 census for Precinct 1, Kaufman, TX, page 50B, I find: Joseph S Hart age 41, born in VA and wife Nancy Hart (wife) age 33, born in TX. Children listed: Thomas Hart age 14, born in VA Dora Hart age 11, born in VA Allice Hart age 9, born in VA Nora Hart age 10 months, born in TX (this would have to be a child with Nancy). Also lists 2 stepsons, Robert and Cosby Parker, ages 13 and 10. All of this certainly fits with my Joseph S Hart, including names and ages of the children with Rachel. There are 2 children that are not accounted for: Joseph E, who would be about 21 and Rosa Belle, who would be about 19. I can not find a Joseph E anywhere in Texas, but did locate a Rosa B, age 18, living with a James E and Virginia Hart - Rosa is listed as their niece. This would be the right age to be the missing Rosa and it shows her born in VA (also James, Virginia and their children show born in VA). Only problem is that I have no record of Joseph S Hart having a brother James. Anyone have these people? Jamie Danker jdanker@access4cheap.com

hi i ve put out some querries about my g grandparents and we now have some new info after finding an original birth cirtificate,Sarah macdonald did not marry a macleod/mcleod she was infact a mcleod/macleod by birth and married a macdonald according to my aunts birth certificate ,which also states sarah as being born in guysbrough co. i assume she died in glace bay as all of her children from second marriage to david Hart were born in glace bay sarah died some time after the last chuld was born in 1929?(sometime between april and dec.) from sarah first marriage she had 3 (beleived to be teenagers at this time)children who apparently went to the states in 1929 just before sarah died we think their names wer Albert,Marrion,and terresa(girls beleived to be twins)i have no proof of these children except my aunts memory who says that they came to visit her and her mother (sarah) and the other children . or could those three be her siblings? if anyone can help i d be greatful tks andrea _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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Looking for information on the family of Edwin HART and wife Eliza (believed to be Eliza ANDERSON). Edwin and Eliza had 5 children as follows: 1. Jane HART married a Mr. MOORE and had one child, John. 2. Thomas HART, a farmer in Clarke County, VA. No other information. 3. John William HART b. 1824 Clarke Co., VA died 1865 in PA. Married in 1850 Saran MCNAMEE. Six children born in VA and PA (Allegheny County): Elizabeth Virginia, Mary Emma, Sarah Ella, Edwin Anderson, George Byron and Josephine. I have more information on this family. 4. Frances Elizabeth HART born 1828 Clarke Co., VA. She had three husbands and children with each: a. Mr. REED married before 1850, children Charles Albert and Eliza b. Edward MORRISON, children Eliza Jane and Edward Hart c. Thomas Bangs MARCHE, child Thomas 5. Joseph S HART born 1838 Clarke Co., VA. Married 1857 in Loudoun Co., VA Rachel Ann MORRISON. Rachel was born 1835 in Clarke Co., VA and died 1877 in Texas - probably Van Zandt Co; she was the daughter of Edward MORRISON (2nd husband of Frances Hart) by bis first wife, Flora WHITE. Joseph, rachel and family eventually moved to Van Zandt Co., TX. Their 5 children are: Joseph E, Rosa Belle, Thomas Roper, Julia Dora and Alice.

Hi, My name is Laurie and I, too, am researching the Hart line. My grandfather was Norman William Hart, b: Nov. 11, 1899 Syracuse, NY; d: Sept. 14, 1977 Baldwinsville, NY. He married Angie Westcott. Norman's father was George A. Hart (my great-grandfather), b: Oct. 31, 1872, Albany, NY; D: Nov. 30, 1936 Syracuse, NY. Married Fannie Belle Finch. George had a brother, Albert J. Hart who married Carrie Miller. George's father was William Hart(my 2nd g-grandfather), b: June 7, 1844 NY; D; Aug. 19, 1882 Baldwinsville, NY. When William was 10 he was adopted by Daniel & Esther (Bedell) Gardner. William married Ella Ann Walker. William was in the Civil War, on 5/17/1861 he mustered into "H" Co. NY 14th Infantry. He was discharged on 6/1/1863 at Utica, NY. In 1872 William lived in Albany, NY; then in 1878 lived in Baltimore, Maryland and in 1880 lived in Fairfield, Virginia. I do not know have any other information on William at this time. If anyone can help me with this line I would greatly appreciated it. Laurie Researching: Prussia: Helbig, Helmecke (Magee), Krieg, Nitzschke England: Alden, de Deighton (Dayton), Jakway, Kibbe, Phelps, Robinson, Somery, Stafford, Westcott Unknown beginnings: Cady, Finch, Foster, Hart, Palmer, Powers, Waite, Walker --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 3/17/2003

Hi, I'm Betty Homer W. Hart b. about 1805 in VT mrd. Mary Baker Knowlton 1830 Brandon, VT.They had 3 children; Adeline Mary b 1833 VT., John Homer b 1842 OH, Prudence Elizabeth b 1847 OH My Grt.Grandfather, Homer MIGHT be the son of John and Prudence (White) that are buried in Brandon, Rutland, VT in "the Old One-Congregational Churchyard". I have no proof that this is GGGFa. Just, that Homer and his brothers, John M and Hiram Carter were born in VT and lived, owned and sold property in Brandon, VT and Homer named his youngest dau. Prudence(after his Mother?) Any help on this line would be GREATLY appreciated. I have chased the elusive Father of Homer for years. TIA

Hi I am Chris, I am looking for information on a nathaniel hart that married Lydia Redman. More spesifically I am looking for both of there parents and siblings. I am more interested in the hart side of the family for the momment. I know that nathaniel hart passes away in 1816. Born about 1740 -50? I know that some of his children was born around 1770's. I have sussex co new jersey as a location. I suspect that he maybe related to hunterton NJ harts but I am so far been unable to prove this. I would appricate any information that you be able to give me. The children that I have names for are Amos, Phoebe,Amy, Elizabeth, Sarah, William and Nathaniel. I know very little about the children except for nathaniel Jr. which is in my line. Thank You --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop!

hi,first off id like to say i only sent this to lists which have connections to Clouden or mcleod (which is the same name in My case) my ancestor Robert Clouden (later changed to mcleod after coming to canada) and his wife and 8 living children came to canada in 1817 from kirkcudbright/dumfries . im looking for anyone who may have a connection specifically in scotland to clouden /clowden roberts parents were William clouden(of Old Clouden Farm) and Mary haliday they had a number of children but have only found proof of Robert Clouden b.1774 James maxwell (son of Mary Haliday and thomas Maxwell) and possibly a william willing to share what i have thks andrea other names involved in scotland are dgar ,Dougan ,Clark,Dornan, Are the Main lines . in canada Wisdom,verge,elliot,macdonald,hart,kelly,white,irving,thomas,moody,warwick, and many more. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

i have a question my great grandmother Sarah macdonald was apparently 53 years old when my grandfather was born(1922) and 60 when her last child was born(1929 is this even possible ,and when were the children from her first marriage born or is there a mistake in her birthdate ? thks andrea James A. (Jim) Macleod was born 1863, and died 1950. He was buried in Upper Leitches Creek Cemetery. He was the son of John Macleod & Jane Macleod. He married Sarah MacDonald, daughter of Red Angus MacDonald & Mary(Domhnull) MacAulay. She was born 1869, & died 1929. Buried in the same Cemetery. they had 3 children albert marion terresa HER SECOND MARIAGE WAS TO dAVID HART THEY HAD 6 CHILDREN _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

hi i was wondering if anyone knows anthing on any of the below people and the b/d/m dates of Sarahs first three children and their families willing to share what i have on which is only on Sarah s second marriage i have all their names birth/marriage /death and children and so forth mostly on their two oldest children the second being my grandfather.b.1922 tks in advance andrea Family of Mary (Domhnull) MACAULAY (6) & Angus MACDONALD (Red) 15. Sarah MACDONALD. Born in 1869. Sarah died in 1929, she was 60. Buried in Up. Lietches Creek Cem., C.B., N.S. ID: I96647666 Name: Sarah MACDONALD Given Name: Sarah Surname: MacDonald Sex: F Birth: 1869 Death: 1929 Burial: Upper Leitches Creek Cemetery Father: Red Angus MACDONALD Mother: Mary (Domhnull) MACAULAY Marriage 1 James A. (Jim) MACLEOD b: 1863 Sarah first married James A. MACLEOD (Jim). Born in 1863. They had the following children: i. Albert. ii. Marion. iii. Teressa. Sarah second married David HART. David died in 1929. Occupation: Balaine, Main-a-dieu. 6 children by Sarah _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

hi im looking for my grandmother sarah macdonald of new haven guysburough co. she was first married to a mcleod and had at least three children Albert ,Marion,Teressa (this is what we think their names are)in abt 1819 sarah married David Hart (of Balaine)main-a-dieu they had six children in 1929 sometime between may and x mass something happened to Sarah and David ,no one knows for sure as their 6 children were under 9 years old ,my aunt says just before the last baby was born in april 1929 sarahs first three children (mcleods)? came to visit they were teenagers and then departed for the states if anyone can help me it would be great willing to share what i have tks andrea ID: I96647666 Name: Sarah MACDONALD Given Name: Sarah Surname: MacDonald Sex: F Birth: 1869 Death: 1929 Burial: Upper Leitches Creek Cemetery Father: Red Angus MACDONALD Mother: Mary (Domhnull) MACAULAY Marriage 1 James A. (Jim) MACLEOD b: 1863 _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

Two quick items. If you aren't concerned about State Archive loss, delete now. The Rally to Save the Florida Archives, Library and Museum is on, info below. We need your help in any way you can. If any of you have seen Jeb Bush's letter posted rest assured it doesn't mean much. He is still moving forward with giving away (and paying for the privilege) over 300,000 documents to a private university in south Florida. More info below. If you need more info, email me. Sharon Come visit the family (30+ lines online) www.roadshometofl.com IT'S A GO! WE HAVE MORE THAN 250 PEOPLE WHO WILL BE RALLYING IN TALL[Y]AHASSEE! WE NEED YOUR HELP TO SAVE THE FLORIDA STATE LIBRARY, ARCHIVES AND MUSEUM. On Tuesday, at 10:30, Bush will be presenting his State of the State address at the Capitol and then the Legislative Session begins. At about 1:00 PM, we will go to the R. A. Gray Building and surround it with our arms and hands linked. Anybody want to give a blessing. <G> SCHEDULE 9:00-10:00 AM Meet on the steps of the Old Capitol Building - Flyers and pins will be handed out. About 10 am, start walking into the Capitol Building and make sure your signs are visible. 12:00 PM - Lunch on your own 1:00 PM - "Arms around the Gray Building" We will surround the R.A. Gray building with as many people as we can. I get goose bumps just thinking about it. <G> Do not block people from going in and out. Bring signs, pins, stickers, whatever you have to show your displeasure, but please no profanity. We want to appear professional and orderly. Theme Song: Blame it on the Bossa Nova (Blame it on Jeb Bush and Nova) I am staying at the DoubleTree and will be there Sunday and Monday night. I am looking forward to meeting so many of you who helped in this campaign. If you have not heard this, it is worth repeating. The President of the Senate, Jim King said the the "Library will stay put." Does that give us encouragement??? Yea!!! I hope that I will see you there! Any questions, I will be happy to answer. Pam Pam Cooper FGS/FSGS 2003 Conference Co-Chair < http://www.fgs.org > President, Florida State Genealogical Society < http://www.rootsweb com/~flsgs/ > Chair, Librarians Serving Genealogists < http://www.cas.usf edu/lis/genealib/ > P. O. Box 7066 Vero Beach, FL 32961-7066 ----- Original Message ----- From: Pam Cooper To: Floriday Today Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 8:11 PM Subject: [floridatoday] State Library - No Problem ????? I have been hearing that the Georgia lists and others think that the State Library situation is no longer a problem. Recently, I was reminded by Barratt Wilkins of a situation that happened about 15 years ago. Back in the 1980's, the State Library gave the genealogy collection to the State Archives and there was a lot of flap about that. The State Library gave the Archives mostly family history and genealogy specific materials. Today, we can be grateful that most of them are now safe, temporarily (at least for a year.) However, in order to compromise and make available to genealogists the thousands of state, county and city history materials, the State Library decided to keep them in their circulating collection. This is now a part of the collection going to Nova University. Other items that you can check out are Florida and Federal documents as long as there are two other copies. For researchers of southeastern history, I have found in the State Library catalog over 6300 books on local and genealogical history of six of the southern states, by using the subject heading "[state] history." HOWEVER, many of them ARE located in the State Archives, but many are in the circulating collection. Titles listed below are in circulation. Georgia 625 "History of John [Virginia] Smith and his descendants in connection with the tobacco industry in Gadsden County, Florida and Decatur County, Georgia" [microform] "Polk County, Georgia " Alabama 297 "The administration of John Quinlan : second Bishop of Mobile, 1859-1883" Mississippi 283 "Country churchyards " "Southern women and their families in the 19th century, papers and diaries." [microform] South Carolina 391 "Lancaster County and the Great War, South Carolina " North Carolina 539 "Ashe County's Civil War : community and society in the Appalachian South " Florida 3979 This subject heading cannot find every book. Therefore, an estimate of how many books that can be circulated to researchers in Florida and other states can be a lot higher, especially if you include all the local history books from other states in New England and the Midwest. I found these for New Jersey in the State Library: Root & branch : African Americans in New York and east Jersey, 1613-1863 Documents relating to the colonial history of the state of New Jersey, [1631-1776] If you visit the State Library, and peruse by dewey decimal number in the 900's, I am sure that you will find a very extensive collection of books that can be checked out with a State Library card free to all Florida residents and is available on ILL for anyone in the U.S. But do not overlook other areas in the library. It is not my intention to get people upset about the books again, but it is necessary that everyone realize this collection is valuable. And, taking it away is like pulling the cornerstone and letting it all fall down slowly. The whole DLIS and the Archives are both in an unstable situation and will be for years to come if we don't have an amendment in the constitution to protect the library and archives forever. You may forward this to other lists if you so wish. Pam Pam Cooper FGS/FSGS 2003 Conference Co-Chair < http://www.fgs.org > President, Florida State Genealogical Society < http://www.rootsweb com/~flsgs/ > Chair, Librarians Serving Genealogists < http://www.cas.usf edu/lis/genealib/ > P. O. Box 7066 Vero Beach, FL 32961-7066 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: floridatoday-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

I am looking for information on Robert HART & his parents. Robert was born in Warrington in approximately 1845, (he was 56 at the 1901 census). He married Sarah. There is a possible marriage on BMD Robert Hart & Sarah Hewitt in June 1866. They had several children Robert, Mary & Sarah (my GGGrandmother). There is a possible Robert Hart on the IGI christened Sept 1847 son of William & Sarah. Any information would be welcome TIA Judith

Thanks for checking. Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:24:00 -0800 From: jackw <jackw@surewest.net> To: HART-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HART-L] William HART, 1816, Hunterdon Co, NJ John Hart, the Signer, was from Hopewell, Hunterdon Co, NJ. His son, Edward, married Nancy Stout. I can't find a William Hart in the 1800's nor any Strimple's in my sources. Jack