Try this website also for a John Hart bio: http://www.webcom.com/bba/ch/hart/john-hart.html "L.R. Lawson" wrote: > > For those interested in John Hart, the signer...here is a website: > www.stepping-stones.com/jhart.html > > I had heard that he was so hated for signing the Declaration of Independence > he had to flee for his life, leaving a sick wife and about 10 children. When > he later returned home, his wife had died and his children scattered. The > website above tells more about him. > =========================== > ---------- > > From: Rockne H. Johnson <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [HART-L] John Hart, the Signer > > Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 8:19 PM > > > > H. is for Hart and I was raised with the family tradition that we were > > descended from John Hart, signer of the Declaration of Independence. I > > never asked for proof as I assumed that a tradition like that would never > > be forgotten. So it came as a shock to me in 1992, at age 62, when I > heard > > that Aunt Ceil had her doubts. > > > > Lucile Nevison Philippi , of Alliance, Ohio, my mother's next to youngest > > sister, produced a Nevison book in the late 1980's and a Hart book in the > > early 1990's. > > > > Aunt Norma, the youngest of the seven sisters, sponsored a Nevison Reunion > > near Alliance, Ohio, in September 1992. My wife and I attended and I > > learned the source of Aunt Ceil's doubt of the John Hart connection. She > > had bought a book, "John Hart; The Biography of a Signer of the > Declaration > > of Independance," The Pioneer Press, Newfane, Vermont, 1977, and the > > author,Cleon H. Hammond, noted that there were Pennsylvania Hart families > > which claimed descent but which were not so descended. Aunt Ceil figured > > that ours was probably one of them. > > > > The day after the Reunion, Glennis and I drove our rented car to > > Pennsylvania. Aunt Ceil has given us the address of her cousin Evelyn > Hart > > McClearn in Stoneboro. Neither Evelyn nor her daughter, who also dropped > > in, had heard of the John Hart tradition. (They had heard that we were > > descended from Sir Frances Drake, but that is another story.) > > > > With two strikes against the tradition, I took the John Hart biography > back > > to Honolulu and read it. I t contained many lists of descendants. It > told > > how everyone was named for someone in the family. I tablulated their > first > > names and compared them with the first names of our Harts, as contained in > > Aunt Ceil's Hart book. The intersection of the two sets of names was hard > > to find. Strike three! > > > > If that wasn't enough, James Hart, whom Aunt Ceil named as our earliest > > known ancestor, was of such an age that, if descended, he would have had > to > > be a grandson of the signer. The grandchildren appeared to be well known > > and there was no James among them. > > > > That was my introduction to genealogy. > > > > It was tough to take; I had thrived on this tradition. But abandoning > > cherished myths is part of growing up. > > > > In the years since I have identified my real direct ancestors, all 134 of > > them. I hope that my descendants will have more satisfaction in knowing > > the real ones than I did in knowing the pretended one. > > > > Rock > >

For those interested in John Hart, the signer...here is a website: www.stepping-stones.com/jhart.html I had heard that he was so hated for signing the Declaration of Independence he had to flee for his life, leaving a sick wife and about 10 children. When he later returned home, his wife had died and his children scattered. The website above tells more about him. =========================== ---------- > From: Rockne H. Johnson <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HART-L] John Hart, the Signer > Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 8:19 PM > > H. is for Hart and I was raised with the family tradition that we were > descended from John Hart, signer of the Declaration of Independence. I > never asked for proof as I assumed that a tradition like that would never > be forgotten. So it came as a shock to me in 1992, at age 62, when I heard > that Aunt Ceil had her doubts. > > Lucile Nevison Philippi , of Alliance, Ohio, my mother's next to youngest > sister, produced a Nevison book in the late 1980's and a Hart book in the > early 1990's. > > Aunt Norma, the youngest of the seven sisters, sponsored a Nevison Reunion > near Alliance, Ohio, in September 1992. My wife and I attended and I > learned the source of Aunt Ceil's doubt of the John Hart connection. She > had bought a book, "John Hart; The Biography of a Signer of the Declaration > of Independance," The Pioneer Press, Newfane, Vermont, 1977, and the > author,Cleon H. Hammond, noted that there were Pennsylvania Hart families > which claimed descent but which were not so descended. Aunt Ceil figured > that ours was probably one of them. > > The day after the Reunion, Glennis and I drove our rented car to > Pennsylvania. Aunt Ceil has given us the address of her cousin Evelyn Hart > McClearn in Stoneboro. Neither Evelyn nor her daughter, who also dropped > in, had heard of the John Hart tradition. (They had heard that we were > descended from Sir Frances Drake, but that is another story.) > > With two strikes against the tradition, I took the John Hart biography back > to Honolulu and read it. I t contained many lists of descendants. It told > how everyone was named for someone in the family. I tablulated their first > names and compared them with the first names of our Harts, as contained in > Aunt Ceil's Hart book. The intersection of the two sets of names was hard > to find. Strike three! > > If that wasn't enough, James Hart, whom Aunt Ceil named as our earliest > known ancestor, was of such an age that, if descended, he would have had to > be a grandson of the signer. The grandchildren appeared to be well known > and there was no James among them. > > That was my introduction to genealogy. > > It was tough to take; I had thrived on this tradition. But abandoning > cherished myths is part of growing up. > > In the years since I have identified my real direct ancestors, all 134 of > them. I hope that my descendants will have more satisfaction in knowing > the real ones than I did in knowing the pretended one. > > Rock >

H. is for Hart and I was raised with the family tradition that we were descended from John Hart, signer of the Declaration of Independence. I never asked for proof as I assumed that a tradition like that would never be forgotten. So it came as a shock to me in 1992, at age 62, when I heard that Aunt Ceil had her doubts. Lucile Nevison Philippi , of Alliance, Ohio, my mother's next to youngest sister, produced a Nevison book in the late 1980's and a Hart book in the early 1990's. Aunt Norma, the youngest of the seven sisters, sponsored a Nevison Reunion near Alliance, Ohio, in September 1992. My wife and I attended and I learned the source of Aunt Ceil's doubt of the John Hart connection. She had bought a book, "John Hart; The Biography of a Signer of the Declaration of Independance," The Pioneer Press, Newfane, Vermont, 1977, and the author,Cleon H. Hammond, noted that there were Pennsylvania Hart families which claimed descent but which were not so descended. Aunt Ceil figured that ours was probably one of them. The day after the Reunion, Glennis and I drove our rented car to Pennsylvania. Aunt Ceil has given us the address of her cousin Evelyn Hart McClearn in Stoneboro. Neither Evelyn nor her daughter, who also dropped in, had heard of the John Hart tradition. (They had heard that we were descended from Sir Frances Drake, but that is another story.) With two strikes against the tradition, I took the John Hart biography back to Honolulu and read it. I t contained many lists of descendants. It told how everyone was named for someone in the family. I tablulated their first names and compared them with the first names of our Harts, as contained in Aunt Ceil's Hart book. The intersection of the two sets of names was hard to find. Strike three! If that wasn't enough, James Hart, whom Aunt Ceil named as our earliest known ancestor, was of such an age that, if descended, he would have had to be a grandson of the signer. The grandchildren appeared to be well known and there was no James among them. That was my introduction to genealogy. It was tough to take; I had thrived on this tradition. But abandoning cherished myths is part of growing up. In the years since I have identified my real direct ancestors, all 134 of them. I hope that my descendants will have more satisfaction in knowing the real ones than I did in knowing the pretended one. Rock

I am one of those HARTs whose family lore says we are related to the NJ Signer of the Declaration of Independence, but can't prove it. I know there are others out there. Is anyone interested in a maillist on this particular HART subject? Maybe as a group with a common goal, we can help each other with what we have so far, and get closer to finding the truth in our family lore. Nancy Nancy *Hart* Servin Oakland, CA orig. from Red Hook, NY (upstate-not Brooklyn)

Thought some one might find something here: There are many more names at this site: War Medals not claimed //www.wvlc.wvnet.edu/history/medallst.html Library of Congress, subject "West Virginia--genealogy". The following 130 entries were found in the "PREM" (pre-1968 entries) and "LOCI" (post-1968 entries) files. 1. 73-640067: West Virginia echoer. Wheeling, W.Va., Mary Freese Warre 79089632 0870123564 1880 census of West Virginia : compiled alphabetically by counties / compiled by William A. Marsh. 85014459 0914311735 1890 West Virginia census index of Civil War veterans or their widows [microform] / compiled by Bryan Lee Dilts. 81169647 1900 census of Logan County, West Virginia / by Connie , Jesse; L; 6th Reg Inf Vols Roach, Jesse C.; D; 6th Reg Inf Vols Roach, Martin G.; H; 6th Reg Inf Vols Reed, Alexander D.; F; 7th Reg Inf Vols Reed, Allen; B; 7th Reg Inf Vols Reed, Columbus; F; 4th Reg Inf Vols Reed, Jacob; H; 1st Reg Lt Art Vols Reed, John H.; D; 1st Reg Cav Vols Reed, John P.; C; 15th Reg Inf Vols Reed, Josephus; K; 3rd Reg Inf Vols Reed, Richard; R; 45th US Reed, Samuel; K; 2nd Reg Cav Vols Reed, Thomas A.; H; 17th Reg Inf Vols Moore, George W.; B; 7th Reg Inf Vols Moore, Henry; D; 17th Reg Inf Vols Moore, Ira C.; I; 10th Reg Inf Vols Moore, Isaac A.; F; 7th Reg Inf Vols Moore, Isaac W.; QM Sgt.; F; 1st Reg Cav Vols Moore, Jefferson; G; 6th Reg Inf Vols Moore, Jesse; D; 2nd Reg Cav Vols Moore, John H.; P; 6th Reg Inf Vols Moore, John W.; I; 10th Reg Inf Vols Moore, John W.; B; 5th Reg Cav Vols Moore, Josephus; D; 17th Reg Inf Vols Moore, Lee M.; Farrier; C; 4th Reg Cav Vols Moore, Lewis ; B; 6th Reg Cav Vols Moore, Marion; E; 5th Reg Cav Vols Moore, Martin P.; F; 1st Reg Cav Vols Moore, Moses; E; 2nd Reg Inf Vols Moore, Robert; I; 4th Reg Cav Vols Moore, Robert C.; I; 10th Reg Inf Vols Moore, Rufus ; C; 8th Reg Inf Vols Moore, Samuel; C; 8th Reg Inf Vols Moore, Thomas C.; G; 4th Reg Inf Vols Moore, Washington; N; 6th Reg Inf Vols Moore, William; D; 7th Reg Inf Vols Moore, William; F; 10th Reg Inf Vols Moore, William; Sgt.; A; 5th Reg Inf Vols Moore, William; K; 4th Reg Inf Vols Moore, William H.; F; 6th Reg Cav Vols Moore, William H.; C; 10th Reg Inf Vols Greathouse, Amos; B; 12th Reg Inf Vols Greathouse, Herman; G; 6th Reg Cav Vols Greathouse, Thomas; C; 10th Reg Inf VolsHart, Fielden; B; 1st Reg Cav Vols Hart, Josiah; M; 6th Reg Inf Vols Day, Friley; K; 1st Reg Vet Inf Vols Day, Kimber B.; A; 5th Reg Inf Vols Newspapers: Mountain Statesman 304-265-3333 914 W Main St Grafton, WV 26354-1028 8.4 mi. Times West Virginian 304-367-2500 115 State St Bridgeport, WV 26330-1375 9.7 mi. Barbour Democrat 304-457-2222 113 Church St Philippi, WV 26416-1105 10.0 mi. Clarksburg Publishing Co 304-624-6411 324 Hewes Ave Clarksburg, WV 26301-2744 15.0 mi.

I am researching three men who are related throght marriage(s) in Union Springs. They were all preachers of the Word. Any help greatly appreciated. The Rev. R.S. WOOD Methodist Church (alive and preaching 1912) The Rev.James HIGHTOWER George C. HART Jr. Baptist Minister ( died ca1887 ) Tom Wicks NJ

I am looking for any information that I can find on my grandfather. His name is Carl P. Hart 1909-1938. Father was John P Hart, mother Laura Wolter. They lived in Chicago. Supposedly Carl was not the biological child of John. Family lore has it that his biological father died when Carl was young, and that John adopted him. We are not sure if that was an official adoption, or if he just assumed his step-father's last name. I have no other information, and would appreciate any information. Anne Barnes

I'm still also interested in hearing anything from anyone who has Anything at all about a man named Harris J. Hartt who was born on September 16, 1816, lived the greater part of his fifty odd years in Madison County, GA and was married to Sarah Bullock. I've been asking this question online for 4 years now and as of yet noone at all has heard of him... I keep asking periodically... any new internet researchers? His father "may" have been an Archibald Hartt who married Polly Berry in Oglethorpe Chounty, GA in or around 1802... thanks... Guy Hart

Technically... the two families are relates, since I'm distantly related to the Mixons and I'm a Hart.... But I checked and I'm related to the Mixon's through the Thompson family of this area. The confusion was because I was thinking of a FTM file I received from a Hart cousin in TX that I'm connected to through her ex husband by way of the Thompsons. So... long story short, they are "related" but at least by my notes, not at that period of time.

I just posted the FTM genrpt on James Vansyckle & Margaret Johnson Descendants and David Albert Kinney & Mary Mowry. Both are NJ families. Some additional surnames mentioned: DALRYMPLE, DENNIS, TINGLEY, HART, LODER, STRUBLE, HOLMES, SEELY, KEEHNER Sandy Hart, RootsWeb Donor http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/5372/

J.-- Hello--- I would like to know more about your HART line that may have gone to Alabama. It is my belief that one of the George HART's came from Georgia. My wife's line is as follows (to the best of our knowledge) beginning with her father: 1. Frank FRAZER HART. b1907 Union Springs,Al d.1992 Ridgewood,NJ 2. James Joel HART b.1884 Bullock Cty,Al? d.1912 Union Springs 3. Lola Hogan FRAZER b.1885 Union Spirngs d.1935? Calif. 4. George C. HART, Jr. Baptist Minister m. 1 Dec 1881 5. Mattie Virginia HIGHTOWER 8 George C. HART, Sr. 9. DORN We have not been able to locate the HART line around Union Springs before 1912. Yes, there was a marriage. But where did the HART's life. Was it outside the town. Also it is now known when the HART's arrived in Unio Springs. Any help greatly appreciated [email protected] wrote: > > I'm not sure where they came from, but there were families of Paulk, Frazier, > and Hart in Wilkinson and Twiggs County GA in early 1800's. I've heard that > one of my Hart line went to Alabama somewhere around 1830. > > J. Hill

I am interested to find any family line connections between the HART AND MIXON lines in Alabama specifically in Bullock County. The period I'm interested in is from the 1830's thru 1920's. Recently I received a posting which suggested they were related lines. My information was there was bad blood between at least two of these lines. Any help greatly appreciated. I have previously posted a note re: HART Duel Union Springs 02 Mar. 1912. Tom Wicks NJ

The Harts and Mixons were related, not sure what time period and if they were related there or not... but it's a southeastern relation type of thing. I'll check my notes and let you know more of what I know tomorrow... Monday.

Wilsie and other Listers-- I have not yet had the energy or time to type in the full article about the HART / MIXON duel. It happened Sat March 2, 1912 at 10:00pm. Place Union Springs, Bullock County, Al. I'm trying to get some families who were there at the time to identify those in the story or tell me what they have been told from their parents, grandparents or they remember. It was a major event in the town. Also we know very little about the HART family. Where did they live, when did they come to Union Springs, where did they come from, GA? James Joel HART married into a solid line of Union Springs family(s) FRAZER, PAULK, HIGHTOWER, FEIGEN. I have the article but need info from the townspeople. Thanks. Tom Wicks NJ [email protected] wrote: > > Hi - > > Would you please reprint the newspaper info on the duel? Why did the duel > occur? Where did it take place? > > Thanks - Wilsie

to all HART listers-- My quick entry of the event, the "duel" left out some important information. The event took place in the town of Union Springs, county Bullock, Alabama. I thank those who asked for clarification. The article is somewhat long and I entered what material I thought would interest researchers.. the surnames. I think I was wrong the stroy was not that of an everyday occurance in 1912. Certainly it was not the wild west. My interest is that James Joel HART was my wife's and her cousins grandfather. We first heard he died of pneumonia. Later it was a duel at the courthouse steps. Now its a down and dirty gunfight which went from the street, into a store and back to the street with a lot of shots fired. MIXOM carried two guns. My question still is can I connect with any HART's from this line? Any HART's who lived in Bullock county from the early 1800's to 1925. Thanks for any help you can provide. Tom Wicks NJ

Pardon, senor, but where is Union Springs? Jack > -----Original Message----- > From: wicks thomas [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, April 17, 1999 12:34 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HART-L] Union Springs: FATAL STREET DUAL 08Mar1912 > > > Listers-- > > The title of the subject line Union Springs is where it occured. It > happened specifically on Prarie Street. > > Tom W. NJ > W. Jackson Willoughby wrote: > > > > If you would tell us where and when this duel occurred it would > help us to > > respond. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: wicks thomas [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Saturday, April 17, 1999 5:45 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [HART-L] Union Springs: FATAL STREET DUAL 08Mar1912 > > > > > > > > > I am researching the duel which took the life of James Joel HART. > > > Recently I was sent the newspaper clipping of this tragic event. there > > > were many witnesses and it was a major event in the town. I would like > > > to have more information on it from those who heard the story > or know of > > > some of the families involved. > > > > > > All of these persons were mentioned in the article either as > relatives, > > > witnesses or in some way related to event; > > > "General" BLACKMAN > > > Dr. BOWMAN > > > Lex CARLISLE > > > Justice J.G. CARMICHAEL > > > N.W. CATCHCART > > > M. COHN > > > COPE, Attny > > > E. C. DAWSON > > > Dr. DEAN > > > Mattie HIGHTOWER-HART-FAULKNER > > > Joe FINKELSTEIN > > > Dr. Charles FRANKLIN > > > George HART > > > Lola FRAZER-HART > > > James Joel HART > > > Mattie HIGHTOWER-HART > > > M. W. MIXON > > > Mrs. S.P. MOORE > > > Paul MOORE > > > PAULK store > > > W.E. PIERCE > > > Sheriff PITMAN > > > RAVENSCROF store > > > R. "Bob TARVER > > > Rev. R.S. WOOD > > > > > > > >

Listers-- The title of the subject line Union Springs is where it occured. It happened specifically on Prarie Street. Tom W. NJ W. Jackson Willoughby wrote: > > If you would tell us where and when this duel occurred it would help us to > respond. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wicks thomas [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Saturday, April 17, 1999 5:45 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [HART-L] Union Springs: FATAL STREET DUAL 08Mar1912 > > > > > > I am researching the duel which took the life of James Joel HART. > > Recently I was sent the newspaper clipping of this tragic event. there > > were many witnesses and it was a major event in the town. I would like > > to have more information on it from those who heard the story or know of > > some of the families involved. > > > > All of these persons were mentioned in the article either as relatives, > > witnesses or in some way related to event; > > "General" BLACKMAN > > Dr. BOWMAN > > Lex CARLISLE > > Justice J.G. CARMICHAEL > > N.W. CATCHCART > > M. COHN > > COPE, Attny > > E. C. DAWSON > > Dr. DEAN > > Mattie HIGHTOWER-HART-FAULKNER > > Joe FINKELSTEIN > > Dr. Charles FRANKLIN > > George HART > > Lola FRAZER-HART > > James Joel HART > > Mattie HIGHTOWER-HART > > M. W. MIXON > > Mrs. S.P. MOORE > > Paul MOORE > > PAULK store > > W.E. PIERCE > > Sheriff PITMAN > > RAVENSCROF store > > R. "Bob TARVER > > Rev. R.S. WOOD > > > >

Sorry listers-- The"gunfight" as it is described took place around 10:00pm on Saturday, March 2, 1912. It was in the Friday addition of the paper. Paper not identified. I was just given the clipping. James Joes HART was after M.W. MIXON. Since it is said, MIXON was/or might have been fooling around with his wife". The towns people were afraid and the men cleared the streets when the two HART and MIXON were in town. Tom Wicks NJ W. Jackson Willoughby wrote: > > If you would tell us where and when this duel occurred it would help us to > respond. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wicks thomas [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Saturday, April 17, 1999 5:45 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [HART-L] Union Springs: FATAL STREET DUAL 08Mar1912 > > > > > > I am researching the duel which took the life of James Joel HART. > > Recently I was sent the newspaper clipping of this tragic event. there > > were many witnesses and it was a major event in the town. I would like > > to have more information on it from those who heard the story or know of > > some of the families involved. > > > > All of these persons were mentioned in the article either as relatives, > > witnesses or in some way related to event; > > "General" BLACKMAN > > Dr. BOWMAN > > Lex CARLISLE > > Justice J.G. CARMICHAEL > > N.W. CATCHCART > > M. COHN > > COPE, Attny > > E. C. DAWSON > > Dr. DEAN > > Mattie HIGHTOWER-HART-FAULKNER > > Joe FINKELSTEIN > > Dr. Charles FRANKLIN > > George HART > > Lola FRAZER-HART > > James Joel HART > > Mattie HIGHTOWER-HART > > M. W. MIXON > > Mrs. S.P. MOORE > > Paul MOORE > > PAULK store > > W.E. PIERCE > > Sheriff PITMAN > > RAVENSCROF store > > R. "Bob TARVER > > Rev. R.S. WOOD > > > >

If you would tell us where and when this duel occurred it would help us to respond. > -----Original Message----- > From: wicks thomas [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, April 17, 1999 5:45 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [HART-L] Union Springs: FATAL STREET DUAL 08Mar1912 > > > I am researching the duel which took the life of James Joel HART. > Recently I was sent the newspaper clipping of this tragic event. there > were many witnesses and it was a major event in the town. I would like > to have more information on it from those who heard the story or know of > some of the families involved. > > All of these persons were mentioned in the article either as relatives, > witnesses or in some way related to event; > "General" BLACKMAN > Dr. BOWMAN > Lex CARLISLE > Justice J.G. CARMICHAEL > N.W. CATCHCART > M. COHN > COPE, Attny > E. C. DAWSON > Dr. DEAN > Mattie HIGHTOWER-HART-FAULKNER > Joe FINKELSTEIN > Dr. Charles FRANKLIN > George HART > Lola FRAZER-HART > James Joel HART > Mattie HIGHTOWER-HART > M. W. MIXON > Mrs. S.P. MOORE > Paul MOORE > PAULK store > W.E. PIERCE > Sheriff PITMAN > RAVENSCROF store > R. "Bob TARVER > Rev. R.S. WOOD > >

the only info i have was given to me it is a listing of a census for wharton twp fayette co pa 1850 henry 50 b.md catherine 36 elizabeth 17 nancy 15 (my line) joesph 12 anna m 6 jacob 3m possibly in georges twp 1840 can anyone help peg in oregon