Dear Ira, This is just to comment that Capt. Thomas Harris is NOT the progenitor of every colonial Harris family in Virginia. Everybody wants to connect to him. (Just like all Gates families want to connect to Sir Thomas Gates, early Virginia settler.) I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the genealogy, but the latest edition of ADVENTURERS OF PURSE AND PERSON, compiled by John Frederick Dorman, noted Virginia genealogist and published for the First Families of Virginia, I believe, if memory serves, lists the first four generations of this family. This is a very expensive book. Best to try to beg it from your FFV friends or interlibrary loan it. It probably would have to be read in your public library and not allowed to be checked out. At any rate, to find out about Curles, the place, I recommend that all interested parties do a <A HREF="www.google.com">www.google.com</A> search and type in curles neck farm. There is photo of a lovely country estate (priced at several millions of dollars) and then there is some history of that area--info about Randolph, Bacon, et al. Happy hunting! Remember, not every Harris in colonial Virginia is descended from Thomas Harris!!!! E.W.Wallace