I did a <A HREF="www.google.com">www.google.com</A> search for the surname Loggins but I typed in "loggins family" There is a Loggins Family Genealogy Forum--it was about the 3rd or 4th item down. Perhaps you can post your message there. We Harris hunters have a more difficult time, don't we? E.W.Wallace Some friends got back recently from a trip to the Allen Co. [Indiana] Public Library at Fort Wayne, and they said they loved it. The books are now on open shelves while the former library is undergoing renovations, I am told. Do you ever get there? It might be fun for someone in Indiana to at least scan their online catalog. Other researchers tell me they use PERSI, the periodical index compiled by Allen Co. PL, and they order articles from these periodicals. I believe PERSI is now on Ancestry.com It used to be the CD-ROM cost about $100 but it is updated every year as new genealogical articles are cataloged. They advise me that the turnaround time (between receipt of request and requester's receipt of the photocopy) is short. EWW