So many of you have offered to help me with my Harris family from Ga-Ala-MS, that I think I need to outline the problem a little. It is lengthy, but here goes. About 90 years ago a descendant of this line did some research or hired research done and got it published to the detriment of fact-seekers. I prefer to think she did this unintentionally. This invented line was grafted in at least two places onto other Harris lines. One of the problems is that the invented line leads to Pocahontas. So I suspect that some or many people were satisfied to accept it as it was presented which I did initially. Summer of 2002 we made a trip from Ga. to Cumberland and Surry Co Va. seeking proof of this line to the Richard said to be father of my Thomas who died in Baldwin Co., GA. I needed this proof for the DAR. What I found did not pan out. After I got home with my wills, etc. and examined them further I found that Thomas, the son, died before Richard, the father, yet was left income by Richard. Further questions in my mind led to a second trip to VA the same month. My Thomas from Baldwin Co., GA is not the son of this Richard from Cumberland Co., VA although Richard did have a son named Thomas who married Jane Taylor. This Richard from Cumberland Co. also has descendants who know who some of Richard's children were. So that is all I really needed to know to learn I must look elsewhere for parents of my Thomas. However, I then learned that Richard from Cumberland Co. was not the son of John Harris and Martha Eldridge from Surry Co., VA but was the son of John Harris (d. 1795) and Eliza from Cumberland Co. VA. who left a will in Cumberland. Further the John Harris from Surry Co. who married Martha Eldridge of the Pocahontas family did have a son named Richard who never married. Further research with the help of Paul Tobler has led me to Granville Co., NC to a Thomas Harris who was a minor when his father, Thomas Harris, died about 1779 (memory). Guardian papers are recorded for this son although he was not in his father's will. He is also named as the son of Thomas in his grandfather, Robert Harris', will. The area in Granville Co. where this family lived is near the Warren Co/Halifax/Edgecombe area where my Thomas' wife is from. This looks the most promising of any of the many Thomas Harrises I have researched. If anyone has a clue, please tell me. Please read Paul Tobler's post below. Thanks and apologies for the length. Larealia Camp Below is a post from Paul Tobler to Harris-VA list last year. These are facts he has found: Thomas Harris b. VA, d.Bet. 12 December 1816 - 08 January 1817 Baldwin Co.,GA. Wife was Sarah Gardner Also found out they were members of the Baptist, member of Church of Christ on Long Creek of Ogechee, Warren Co., GA in 1804. The Gardner's were from the Edgecombe Co.,/Halifax Co., NC area prior to removing to GA. Is not the son of Lt. Richard Harris & Mary Ann Harris Lt. Richard Harris is found to be the son of John Harris & Eliza rather than John Harris and Martha Eldridge John Harris and Martha Eldridge had a son Richard who died testate without issue leaving a violin in his will. This was proven by following statement in Lt. Richard Harris will: Item 3rd I give to my son Thomas Harriss fifty pounds annually for five years, and also my interest in the following slaves to wit Hannah and her children and my little bay mare now at Jno Harrisses. (since you don't leave a 5 year income to a dead child it became clear something was awry) With Fran Fletcher's help we have managed to get some of this straightened out but now we are left with no parents for this Thomas Harris that married Sarah Gardner as well as no parents for the father of Lt. Richard Harris namely John Harris and his wife Eliza. Paul Tobler - -----------------------------------------